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Considering there are 8 players in this game
Potential scum slip from press guaranteeing the 8 town players? Also a reasonable assumption given the rule is usually 25% rounded down (he and I discussed this in speed's mafia chat) but the notion of having three mafia because all town need to be eliminated is worth considering. Probably nothin here.
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Was the brain fart that you forgot that town didn't know there are multiple decks? Do you guys have your own mafia deck?
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Croc:Last time RM and bear were Mafia, they were solely focused on themselves and defending themselves. It literallly seems the exact same way now lol.
If Croc flips scum this is TMI and RM is scum with him.
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@Vader
So none of the cards are the same in each deck? There different combos. Interesting
What is this of different decks?
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Idk. Warren and bear seem town. Croc I have not played with before so can't say. For the rest I would have to reread the DP.
What made me seem town? I feel like I hadn't done much up to this point.
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@oromagi
It seems wildly unbalanced to me.
Is it unbalanced, or is it just swingy?
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When a person dies do we get to see what cards (and thus what roles) they had each night?
This is a good question from disc. I feel like if he thought of it as scum he's smart enough to ask it publicly for credit, but it feels like it's more likely he genuinely had the thought as town.
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A cop should investigate me tonight because I'm going to be betting every single day, full disclosure. Don't care if that gets me a miller. Higher utility otherwise. Investigate me tonight to be sure of a true result.
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Town should agree beforehand on what the NK and/or possible vig kill should be in case we get either of themThoughts? Do you have anyone who you want it to be?
Discuss? Yes. Agree on? No.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Since poker is highly reliant on reading tells from nonverbal cues and this setting does not allow that to happen automatically I think it is only fair that everyone post their poker face for everyone to see. Here is mine:
Here's me just waiting to stack mad chips
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Very curious as to your thoughts on a few of the songs I submitted. Like I told you in the PM there were a decent number of songs I felt it was hard to find a song I know and like (which feels like a precursor for submission to me personally, I should like the song I submit) that fits the theme and you would also like, but also not trying to pander. I feel like there's one you'll not enjoy or maybe even dislike but be able to appreciate, and a couple more that might also fit that to some extent.
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Yeah I think this is only marginally helpful but still can be here and there.
Very happy this isn't an actual hand because I'd probably bet big chasing a card or cards I want.
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@RationalMadman
Or, possibly more importantly, how are we going to calculate our odds of doing something without knowing other peoples' hands?
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RM can your odds calculator account for wilds? I don't see a way it can.
RM is town again and I kinda townread Pie's frustration with my/croc's relative inactivity. Good news is mafia can kill me before I can catch them if they want to waste a NK there ;)
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@Speedrace
@PressF4Respect
Oh god you guys racked up the posts here.
Press and Speed can both attest that I will not be posting much this week as my time is limited. I mentioned it in mafia chat of speed's game. I'm sorry, but I'll be able to pick it up around DP3, provided I live that long. In the meantime, from what I was able to keep up with I'd want to vote bearman. I think no-lynching is acceptable (though I still don't like it) in a normal game with 10 people, but with the shifting roles and potential for a ton of kill power (KP) in the night, I don't think it's smart.
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It’s more likely a town will kill a town but it’s definitely better if a townie gets the shot cause there’s still a chance they kill mafia. Everyone should be betting.
In this case though we essentially have a town vig though. Even if they kill another town it's a townie who was at risk of being a mislynch. Mafia would be killing one of the stronger townies/one with better reads. So yeah, definitely should be betting.
I see what intel is saying, but I definitely disagree.
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Hey I'm townreading RM again in case anyone wants to scumread me for that
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I'm Chris Moneymaker. Not super into poker but my friends are and I've still never heard of him
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Roles are determined by our hand. This is a semi-open setup. The town roles are listed, the scum roles are not. This means that scum is forced to fake claim one of the roles in the list, leaving them vulnerable to CC
I just figured scum had the same roleset? A couple of the roles are useless to them but most would be useful still?
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@RationalMadman
Looks like betting is only bad in that you might end up being miller? And that's only bad if there's a cop that night that chooses to target you?
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It wasn’t. I’ve only seen it a select few times and I don’t like it because I don’t like the JOAT’s abilities being the same as a full role, but it’s not bastard.
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Or maybe pie and cookie but if so we take care of that next DP
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@WaterPhoenix
@Crocodile
I'm willing to hammer but want to give everyone a chance to talk. Also Water, don't tell us if you're 1-shot, but can croc continue to talk moving forward? Cause that'll be good for us to have a confirmed town voice in the thread. If he can't I think we should give him as much time as possible for today.
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It's on Drafter's excel sheet I just linked. I think that's a more likely oopsie than croc and water cheating.
Like are you fucking reading
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@PressF4Respect
It's on Drafter's excel sheet I just linked. I think that's a more likely oopsie than croc and water cheating. Speed also hasn't addressed it which I feel he would've if this was a problem.
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You are the MEDIUM. Each night you may visit a player in the graveyard. During the following Day Phase, that player may talk (but not vote).
It's in row 140, for some reason Ctrl+F isn't working
I know this isn't the thing Speed linked but it's a drafter list
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@PressF4Respect
I get that but water's role is literally confirmed, unless you think that he and croc agreed to cheat together for marginal gain that would probably get them blacklisted
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@PressF4Respect
He's probably talking about the excel sheet which is in the resources but speed didn't link
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@PressF4Respect
I don't know, but it's clear that he's telling the truth. I think it's pretty simple from here
Town
Water
Pie
Probably town
Intelligence/User
Intelligence/User
Scum if one of the other ones isn't
Press
Scum
Bearman
Cookie
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Where I'm at: Probably lynch one of cookie/bear. If guilty it's probably the other one as partner. If innocent it's probably press. He was scummy D1 and this is scummy right now. If we get an inno flip today then I'm voting press tomorrow.
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I get that speed said all roles were on the list but I looked this one up on Mafia Universe and there was a role that sounded like this. Feels kinda scummy to be pushing this.
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@PressF4Respect
His role is basically confirmed dude. Croc is talking. If it's not then this is a really weird ploy the two of them came up with and Water will get modkilled and both will probably get in trouble and might get blacklisted.
Easiest conclusion is that he's telling the truth.
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@RationalMadman
I mean if he'd gotten a 6.1 he'd have won, I feel like there's a pretty solid chance of that
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@RationalMadman
The fact that Press did so well despite the rickroll is impressive.
Agreed, like even if it's a song he genuinely likes he had to know it'd be taken as a joke and probably knock some points off. He'd probably had won if he'd taken it seriously.
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@PressF4Respect
3rd- Press: Rick Astley: Never Gonna Give You Up
Ha. Hit him with the rickroll. Classic.
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@ILikePie5
Bruh I specifically asked for everyone to wait so he could answer my question.
For what it's worth I would've hammered once I got it.
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Nevermind, it was probably a newer player not understanding role mechanics as much and just assuming you're told if you're roleblocked no matter what. I'm probably overthinking this.
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I roleblocked Water, you can ask him if his action failed.
I might be reading into this too much but if Bearman is scum water is town. Bearman seems to think that water is a role that would receive confirmation of being roleblocked, which means that they would've also role copped water N1? Is there something water said that implied that he was a powerful role and that'd be necessary?
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I agree that it's likely that if croc flips town bear/cookie are probably scum. But your plan is a little too confident in that working that we go back to back like that. I don't know if that comes from mafia though, cause if you're scum you know that if one of them AND croc flip town that that takes away your main reason for lynching the other one. So I almost want to townread you from this?
If croc flips scum are those two confirmed town in your opinon? What if croc flips town and we lynch one, what does that mean for the other?
If croc flips scum are those two confirmed town in your opinon? What if croc flips town and we lynch one, what does that mean for the other?
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@ILikePie5
You did the math about how we only have two mislynches and you have a plan that is exactly three lynches?
I think by tomorrow it's probably going to be worth everyone outing anyway.
I'm probably on board with the croc lynch, but I want him to answer the (very simple) question I posed to him first
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@Crocodile
Did you ever ask speed if you're able to stack the powers?
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@PressF4Respect
No, but your role can. If I read it right.
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@Crocodile
Unvote. Ask speed and get back to us on if you can stack your powers on the same night.
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@Crocodile
Are you saying you can do multiple actions on the same night?Yes
Oh god I don't like this.
Vote Croc
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