warren42

Oh I missed that vanillizing bit in AROSE's claim... I almost want to not lynch either of them and give the town JOAT a chance to use at least one role.

That's stupid though. We lynch in there and if wrong we lynch the survivor tomorrow.

I agree AROSE's is compelling but at the same time find the fact he claimed vanilla then jumped out with this concerning. I'll lynch either but would prefer AROSE.

Can someone point me to drafter's claim? Skimmed twice and haven't seen it.

Either way I'm more inclined to believe him over AROSE, since AROSE lied about his role first. That said... it would be weird for mafia that had claimed vanilla to come out and do this.

Guess it doesn't matter though because this is w/v 99% of the time. I think we just lynch AROSE and if we're wrong we lynch drafter.

I’m not saying I don’t believe you. I’m saying that there is reason to claim a main character as mafia and you aren’t cleared just for being a main character, which you seemed to imply.

Why are you assuming I'm a watcher?

For town confirmation. Simple answer.

Why would he be? What basis do you have for that? I see absolutely no reasoning that supports that.

If TUF's done such setups before obviously we can't rule it out, but it almost makes me think you're more likely to be cult than drafter.

I happened upon the game I was talking about while on a deep-dive for a non-game related reason. It was actually Danielle's game, we recruited TUF with my yakuza.

Scratch the role-changing talk.

No, I know it isn't a counterclaim. I was referring to this:

but just now realized you said you don't like. I misread it as "I don't think..."

Yeah. Press and AROSE both 'nilla

I think there were two vanillas but maybe I'm wrong

Re: Speed - I don't have an opinion on him based on his activity. His posts were good but could also be seen as opportunistic so eh.

Re: Oro's post - No. Seems a little weird that he focused on Press, but wasn't fishing IMO.

Probably 2, maybe a 3P survivor or something

So based on his claim alone would you put Pie as the same as the vanilla claims, townier, or scummier?

Does anyone have opinions on Pie's miller claim or Supa's claim?

I feel like people are ignoring what are probably the two biggest points we should be looking at so far.

Yeah, it is. People usually don’t claim it as mafia though.

Usually.

If you’re right then that’s not the game I’m talking about.

No... I was the yakuza

Actually... Maybe he was the person who we recruited and it was someone else's game.

Oh and as far as this: yes. I remember being mafia with a Yakuza in one of his games. Caught a decent amount of flak for it though.

Pie probably town for the miller claim.

Re: Mharman he’s essentially saying he isn’t going to be inactive this time (iirc he said he got grounded mid-last game or something) I don’t think that warrants a vote still since he checked in.

Re: Supa exactly that’s what I’m saying

Right, I get that part. Why would you partial claim in the first place though?

Seems a bit odd to claim the way you did then.

If I interpreted speed correctly I think he's making a jump in logic but I'd be wholly unsurprised if there was a role similar to that in this game.

Which he seemed to derive from my comment about TUF including those types of roles and the info you gave us about yours.

Speed please correct me if I'm wrong but he thinks your role might allow you to change teams at some point.

Ye.

I was actually speaking in general but looking at Supa yeah, possibly.

Lunatic (TUF) has included alignment-changing mechanics before. I think that in a game of 10 that might be an attempt to balance it.

I nominate Wylted

Discord seems to be the most common, bsh used google docs which I didn't like personally but worked.

That's fair

He shouldn't have, but with mistakes he'd made already it wouldn't have surprised me.

(All in you still did a good job for your first time, speed)

You took everything from me

Right. After you explained it I'm not surprised, it makes sense, but my point was if you had told him you'd still be telling us he wasn't confirmed, right?

I was, quite obviously, wrong.

Still don't think that Wylted and I had a bad train of thought. Again, wrong obviously, but not bad.

I mean, what are you supposed to tell us

Yeah. I think the last two were good but think they’re only as good as their villains for the most part. At the very least you need the hero to be complex in some capacity. I’d suggest Black Panther because it’s unusual (in my opinion) in that the villain is really compelling as a character.

Thoughts:

Obviously used mid psych way too much on drafter. Still surprised speed sent him a scum PM without his teammates’ names though.

Was obviously wrong on GP too. I should’ve been more open to this, since it’s speed’s first time, and having a role PM that’s not 100% clear is to be expected.

How did you guys lynch me over Supa?

GG in the end. Despite the bad lynches on me and Wylted you guys pulled it out, so I guess I shouldn’t complain!

Sorry to post here speed but this is meta.

AROSE, I’m assuming speed is going to count your vote but in the future be sure to bold it so the mod doesn’t miss a vote. Some even won’t count them.

Me: you aren’t a PGO variant if you dont kill

Supa: I’M NOT A PGO I’M A VARIANT? CAN YOU READ?

Me: I know. That’s why I said variant

Supa: I SAID VARIANT CAUSE I’M A VARIANT

This literally further proves you aren’t reading.

Don’t bother arguing meta with the majority of the players here. It’s not worth it.

Supa I literally fucking included “variant” in my statement. Thanks for accusing me of inability to read while simultaneously showing you’re the one who can’t.

If you don’t kill people you aren’t a PGO variant.

Your gambits are bad, Supa. You try to play like Wylted but lack the tact to pull it off.

I think speeds count was wrong

If you’re a PGO and I visit you, I die. I visited you. If you’re really similar to a PGO why am I not dead.

So if I gave you Pie’s character, would I die?

If I’m a busser that means we’re both scum. If Supa said I’m bussing him then vote him, because for me to bus him he has to be mafia.