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Also, the reason, from your POV, that I didn’t visit you should be that I’m alive. That’s why you should think I couldn’t have targeted you. The reason you *didn’t* have that thought is because you *aren’t* a PGO. You forgot how your fake role would have worked.
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@Vader
You aren’t supposed to get any notifications if someone has visited you, Supa. Thank you for letting me know not to play any of your games again.
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@WaterPhoenix
I targeted Supa. I’m alive. That’s literally all you need to know today.
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And if you got my delivery of Pie’s character, that also means I targeted you.
You literally just outted yourself as a liar. Lmao gg
VTL SUPA
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If you got a letter from Pie you aren’t the PGO... that means I successfully targeted you. Lmao that you think you somehow won this.
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@Greyparrot
What info do you have from Pie? All he was able to do was send messages.
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@drafterman
If I’m town, Supa is scum. If I’m bussing, Supa is scum. Doesn’t matter how you cut it.
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Also I got a message, I’m assuming from Pie, but it was nonsense about Trump 2020.
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If anyone else got the character and I was redirected, say so now. Otherwise Supa dies.
Gonna hold off on the hammer since drafter has the power of two votes.
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@oromagi
No. I clarified with speed on how my role would work with a PGO.
If player A is PGO and I give Player A’s character to player B, I’m ok. If I give player Back character to player A, I should die.
I gave Pie’s role to Supa.
Here I am.
Alive.
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Hey Supa, get any information last night? Interesting that I successfully targeted you and I’m still alive.
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What’s supas character?
I can also verify Pie’s role, so Grey and I are 2/5.
For what it’s worth Pie I mostly ignored your message and had no opinion on the giant ass string of text arose sent out. Wasn’t about to try to decipher that shit
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@drafterman
You’re probably scum because I’m giving speed enough credit, despite the apparent fuckups, that he’d let you know your scum partners.
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@Greyparrot
I think the point was he shouldn’t have been able to watch him.
bsh always uses the analogy of a house. If the hider isn’t at home, the watcher can’t watch the house kinda thing
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Yeah I’m a fucking idiot and my brain is fried. I’ll check in in the morning.
Final thoughts for the night:
- Drafter is still probably scum and speed is probably trying to cover what was a big mistake
- If Supa is scum he’s probably a godfather
- At this point I think we do a mass claim and play the claim game
- Not entirely convinced Wylted is town. Feel like he would’ve used his gladiator power by now if so. Scum gladiator has more reason to be concerned than town.
That said, my reads look vaguely like this
town
Water, Arose, Mharman, Grey
town lean
oro
scum
drafter
everyone else is some shade of null
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@oromagi
I have not been vague at all.
My role says I can pick a player (GP) whose character I can give to another player (pie). That's it. That's my role.
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@drafterman
Regarding characters and roles, it would make sense for Nick Fury to be a godfather. I wouldn't waste a cop check on Supa for any cops out there. Pretty sure he'll come out clean regardless of alignment
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@oromagi
Ok, that's where the confusion. *I* can't do anything. Also, again, it's the character, not the role. Since he's already claimed that, I can't do anything but check the validity of it.
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@drafterman
Speaking of, why did you not immediately ask who your teammates were?
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@oromagi
It would be very convincing if Warren told us their role before they did.
Then what the hell does this mean?
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@Greyparrot
Missed the hider saying they went behind you and honestly who the hider is because this has been a shitshow of people claiming without reason (ahem, supa)
At this point a mass claim is the best possible option
I'm Scarlet Witch with the weird "oracle" role I've described.
Drafter is scum or this game is shite. How did drafter replace a scum slot without being told his partners? If he *didn't* receive his partners, that should have been his first question.
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@oromagi
You clearly didn't read it when I claimed. I don't get the results. I pick who to get results on and who to send those results to. I get nothing.
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@Mharman
ATTENTION: This is a counter claim. Drafterman’s bulletproof claim is BS. Why? Because I am Mantis,, a town 50/50 role-blocker. Last night I roleblocked Drafterman, stopping the NK.VTL Drafterman
How does this mean he can't be BP? Or the NK target?
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@drafterman
Dude, did you read D1?
My game name is Aunt May. I am a vote giver who gives an extra vote to a person I select each night. Hi town!
NevermindUNVOTESpeed just informed me through PM that my justification is that I am a Motivator.
Motivator and Vote Giver are not the same role. At this point, since his character is confirmed (unless it's exactly GP/Pie) I think that it's quite possibly a mod fuckup. Despite that, suspicion is justifiable. I'm never just gonna be like "oh yeah the guy who's claimed two different roles is definitely town."
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VTL Warrenhe's targetting confirmed town ppl like this is blatently obvious
TownGPPieWyltedLean ScumdrafterRagwarrenI'll wait for Rag to give his opinions. I just wanna press Warren for his sus on GP
Supa, please fucking tell me how Grey was town confirmed last night. His role is mechanically confirmed now.
Additionally, since the beginning of the DP I have been on drafter. You're voting me for my suspicion of confirmed town, but I have been doing my best to get one of your scum reads lynched.
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@Greyparrot
Of course, but Warren was manufacturing suspicion on my role...
You literally claimed two different roles. Even if that was mod error, you should understand why the suspicion is reasonable.
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Alright, was waiting to see if Pie played coy. He did not. That’s how my role works. I can essentially confirm characters (assuming the person I sent it to doesn’t lie)
I picked Grey cause I didn’t like his claim, but unless Pie is lying, the character half is legitimate. I picked Pie more or less at random; I understand how he’d react better than some others but was also very confident he wouldn’t die.
Also, in what world does scum kill the drafter slot and not Oro?
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Actually now looking at the claim board I bet that it's the fact that he didn't include that his name was Bruce Banner and simply included the super hero persona.
If that's the case I can tell you my PM doesn't include my character's actual name, simply their super hero alias.
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@oromagi
Is it the way he started the DP by looking around like "why wasn't there a NK" despite having knowledge that should have led him to a viable conclusion?
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@oromagi
I don't get my own results; we'll have to wait for someone else to give those to us.
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@ILikePie5
What are your thoughts on Grey? Also, vote drafter.
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@Greyparrot
@drafterman
Yeah, the same rules don't apply if Cogent is mafia. If Cogent was town Press (now you) was confirmed town. But since you were literally sent a mafia PM and are somehow being allowed to replace into a slot, that means that you know who the mafia are. Otherwise, you wouldn't be in the game.
If you cannot instantly out the mafia team (which you didn't) that's the only explanation.
Grey, please read this and vote for the (unfortunately) mod-confirmed scum.
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@oromagi
Let's assume press was mafia. That means drafterman was mafia. That means that Speed was going to shift drafterman to a different slot with complete knowledge of who the mafia team was?
I realize he almost made a pretty big mistake anyway, but I trust speed's ability to run a game more than that.
I realize he almost made a pretty big mistake anyway, but I trust speed's ability to run a game more than that.
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@oromagi
You're a fool then. How has nobody realized that PressF is literally an innocent child at this point
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I've said this in multiple games and guess people disagree which is fine but I don't care about losing to inactive scum. If they don't play they didn't win. It's whatever. Press and Cog are both bad votes.
This feels gross to use but neither of them are mafia because of how speed handled the situation. Press DEFINITELY isn't, because he wouldn't be subbing press or drafter (I don't remember which and am too lazy to look it up) into the other slot if the former was scum, else they know the scum team. I will be treating anyone still on press at end of day as outted scum and it's a bad look that you didn't come to the same conclusion.
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@Vader
It comes from the phrase "hedging your bets." You're sitting on the fence with him. You're wishy-washy. Scum use it to keep a lynch option open while not actively pushing them. Today you lynch someone else. Tomorrow you say "damn I knew I should've lynched Ragnar" and start pushing him. You drop the towny vibes you're getting and voila, another mislynch.
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@Vader
Really hate how hard supa is hedging on Ragnar
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@Wylted
Gladiator is a fun role I'm mad I've never seen it used
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@drafterman
But he originally claimed "vote giver" was his role
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@drafterman
He's literally claimed two different roles
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@oromagi
The other variation I know is that the oracle picks someone's role and reveals it publicly upon the oracle's death. It's not that either.
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