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@ILikePie5
Why not the other option?
What other option? Continue to track drafter every single night phase?
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@Speedrace
Cause I’m stuck with drafter now, I’ll be tracking him till he dies or I’m blocked
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@drafterman
Actually fuck it, hopefully I’ll be killed in the night and can replace Supa’s slot, if I publicly put my results then Bullish can replace me back in cause there won’t be any sort of private information.
I’m stalking. As a result I’m a tracker. N1 I select a target. I track them each night until my results are disrupted, ie my target dies, I’m roleblocked, etc. I tracked drafter to lunatic, so I can confirm the validity of that roleblock.
As a result, if I don’t die tonight it’d probably be best drafter roleblocks me so I can pick a new target and essentially become an odd night tracker. Thoughts?
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@Lunatic
Yeah I was pissed when I saw that cause I knew someone would say some BS about the timing
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@Lunatic
Correct, but you and white flame seem to have been pressuring me for not having been active during the middle portion of the phase
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I hate that I'm going to suggest this but we need to get rid of That1's slot. There's no way that Bullish will be able to replace both that slot and Supa's slot in a timely manner and Supa's is way townier
VTL That1User
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@Lunatic
I was one of the main posters for awhile in the day phase. To say that you have no information on me isn't true. I disagree with that on its face.
Was your intent a claim or a lynch?
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I feel like a push on me is relatively opportunistic, I've given no reason to indicate I'm scum and have provided a clear outline of my thoughts/reads.
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I see this as building on a theme of sorts: crimes that aren't/shouldn't really be crimes.
I'd like to explicitly state that my crime is a legitimate crime and should remain one. It is prosecuted, though maybe not as strongly as it should be, and would tend to indicate that this isn't the theme split.
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I requested to sub out. I am dealing with an emergency that I don't want to talk about atm
Obviously real life comes first and Supa should prioritize that but this is inconvenient, at least the slot is more or less confirmed town.
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@Vader
Why?
If you're referring to me asking you to give me LSD then it's cause it seems like it might be something fun. I'd take cocaine too though. Just seems like it might have a fun role attached.
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@ILikePie5
Let's assume he's a mafia roleblocker. Why would he out his "I actually have a scummy claim" immediately? Why not keep that under wraps?
Let's assume he's a town roleblocker. Given his feelings toward Lunatic yesterday doesn't it make sense for him to have targeted Luna?
Let's assume he's a town roleblocker. Given his feelings toward Lunatic yesterday doesn't it make sense for him to have targeted Luna?
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@ILikePie5
Do you think he's a mafia roleblocker? Do you think he's lying about his role entirely? Do you think he actually visited lunatic regardless of his role?
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@ILikePie5
What kinda question is that? The election isn't for four years, I don't know who's running, and with any luck I might be an Icelandic citizen by then.
In all seriousness not drafter, I'm confident he's town. Same with Supa. Lunatic and Danielle are also outside of my POE at the moment. But the day phase is still young, we have well over 48 hours, so I don't know.
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I don't think this is independently scummy but Pie defending Lunatic's character super hard is noted. It might be just him being hardheaded and wanting to be right but it also might be w/w. If one flips guilty I'll be suspicious of the other, but again don't think it's independently scummy
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@drafterman
Your original posts were from whiteflame, not me
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I'm gonna let you think on this and figure this one out yourself. Take a good hard look at those posts.
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I will venmo $10 to anyone who can point out where I was being "contrarian" with regards to drafter/lunatic when drafter was trying to pressure him.
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So is he corruption by threat of harm against a public servant? Corruption bribery? Corruption of public resources? Something else? All of them?I stand by my assertion that "corruption" is a generic term that doesn't refer to some specific crime. That's not say the word doesn't appear at all in the legal code, just that it isn't a narrow thing as opposed to prostitution or murder or disrupting the peace.And, to be clear, I'm not suggesting that we have to be a specific, individual crime, as according to some code (e.g. Murder in some specific degree) but I think it's fair to admit that a term that covers misusing resources, bribing people, and threatening to assault them, is a fairly broad umbrella.It stands out and was worth probing, imo.
This is also true. I agree with it. The roleblock is the only reason I'm feeling decent about lunatic, else I'd probably be scumreading him a little bit
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@ILikePie5
It's a Wednesday and most of us are adults with jobs
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It's not lost on me that warren did not answer what I specifically asked him and tagged him for.
I'm at work most of my posts are being written in the 10-second increments I get between calls or while the pages are loading. (I have two interviews for real jobs where I'm not wasting my degree though, hopefully I get one!)
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@Vader
Can I have LSD? Sounds like it might be a fun item
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@Danielle
I agree Luna could also be scum. I'm just saying Supa giving him an item doesn't necessarily prove him town (Supa seemed to believe it town confirmed him and/or Luna when it does neither). I now town read Supa a bit more just because it would be a lil bit bastard to give scum a role where they don't know how it works.
I agree with this. I think Supa is probably town. Lunatic also has some town points since he was roleblocked and there was a night kill, that means that he didn't carry the kill, I guess theoretically halving his likelihood of being scum, all else equal
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She is parroting my advice to another mafia player from another game.
Oh
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@Danielle
Also I absolutely want warren to answer this from last day phase. He disappeared after I posted: Once again I am wondering the point of you asking me questions about my win con when #1 the OP clarifies that no win con = town, so even if I were scum I'd know how to answer this question and #2 there has already been discussion about how detailed or explicit the roles are to characters. Deciding to go into a deep dive about my PM analysis therefore seems like a waste of time at this point, or a way to look like you're investigating something thoroughly when scum is not going to get caught with these questions. You should have done this with people that posted much earlier. Explain your reason for going along with this line of questioning.
I was hoping that since you had been the last person to hop on you'd be in a rush to catch up and miss that if you were scum, just assuming your PM has a wincon in it. Low probability but nothing was really happening so figured why not
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@Danielle
I can't edit my last post but just to clarify, pot does not make everyone lazy *takes a hit at 9:21 am*
Daaaaamn Daniel(le)
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@Danielle
I'm pretty sure Lunatic doesn't smoke weed IRL so he is probably telling the truth, but let me reiterate that Supa giving him weed proves nothing. Supa could easily be scum, especially if there is no theme split and he's the one who was kinda persistent that there was no theme split.
1. You're a bit too high yourself during live mafia if you haven't picked up on the fact that Lunatic is often high during the games ;)
2. The bolded is definitely true, but also Lunatic could be scum. It's pretty clear Supa is the inventor or something to that effect. Lunatic could be mafia that got an invention, Supa could be a mafia inventor, they could both be mafia.
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It sounds like you are very upset that people do not want to join your vote.If I may, here is some constructive criticism for how you can get town to join you:
- Don't be so argumentative - you'll alienate the people you're arguing with and everyone else will just tune you out;
- Don't be so defensive - you're not being attacked nearly as much as you think you are and it puts focus on you, taking it away from other people;
- Stop giving a shit about being right - this is a game where a it's a job of a significant part of the player base to undermine you. Stop taking everything as a personal insult and move on.
- Find common ground - If you want scum lynched you need help from other people. So instead of acting like a person that has it all figured out and everyone should just follow your infallible lead, act like a person that needs help from other people. Because you do and you can't win without it.
- Remember that it is a team game - You're on a team, part of an affiliation. You win as a team. You lose as a team. Coming out and saying nothing was your fault and it was everyone else is being a poor team member and is poor sportsmanship.
This feels like I should read it town and I don't know why. Danielle is honestly both smart enough and cares enough about the viability of playing games she'd probably say this regardless of affiliation, but here we are, townreading her for it
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@Danielle
How do you know you win with the town? Does your PM say so?
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@Bullish
I don't play on weekends so pinging me would have been pointless. VTL iLikePie
No Danielle, don't you know that voting people "for activity" when they haven't shown any indication that they know game exists is the best way to advance a day phase?
Bullish, would you let a dead townie replace that1user if the townie didn't have any special information?
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So example, if I were jaywalking and vanilla, it has a clear connection. That's the kind of thing that would be vanilla.
Also, for the record, that is not a claim.
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My explanation isn't explicit (as in not "you are jaywalking, this crime is boring and stupid, as a result you are vanilla") but the crime is defined in my PM and clearly links to my role.
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vtl drafterman
Does your character claim out your role? If not I want your character.
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@Bullish
Perfect, thanks, just wanted that in writing before I'm nearly lynched for claiming vanilla again haha
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Current Mafia:
Signups:
Bullish - Crimes mafia
In the Hopper:
That1User: Animation Chaos Mafia
ILikePie5: U.S. House of Representatives Mafia
Crocodile: Jojo mafia
Elminster
drafterman
Lunatic
MisterChris- WWII
Supadudz- Darling In The Franxx, The Disastrous Life of Saiki, Bad Ass Anime Characters
Danielle - 2020 In Review or WIFE Mafia
Speedrace
warren42
On Hold
zaradi, Virtuoso, PressF4Respect, RM, BearMan
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I didn't pay attention to the game and haven't looked at balance too much but for what it's worth I think we should move away from D1 innocent child. They're better D2+ IMO
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Can we get clarification as to the definition of role madness given that I think this was subject of debate in your last game
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My activity might be limited again, so if you need me put me in but if others want the spots it'd probably be better
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