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The problem I have with Jesus
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@PREZ-HILTON
Well, there is a strong chance that there was an actual Jesus type bloke.

Though probably not named Jesus in the first instance.


As for the sin thing.

Well, doesn't make a lot of sense.

Not sure that it ever did.

Makes no sense really.


And now it's 2023, and all about Buns and Choccy Eggs.

Sort of a pagan revival.

Putting a positive spin back on sex and fertility, rather than the old repressed negative sin stuff.

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Why I will not be boycotting budlight
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@Elliott
Yep. Best left to the lads next door.
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Discussion over infant baptism v other forms of baptism
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@Skipper_Sr
Baptism is a human water thing.

Some people like to swim in sub-zero conditions.

Go for it I say.

If it makes you feel good, then it probably does.

To understand it in full, one would  need to have a good knowledge of brain processes.
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Benefits of Christian religion vs. Benefits of atheism
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@Deb-8-a-bull
It's the one at the end of the rack that prevents all the rest from leaning over.


And he said unto them:

Henceforth

All the people of the World shall have Hot Crossed Buns.

And they saw the Buns 

And they were good.
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Why I will not be boycotting budlight
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@Elliott
Kronenbourg and Stella.

Perfect for washing down jizz.

I would imagine.




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Why I will not be boycotting budlight
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@PREZ-HILTON
Shitty beer.

You won't be missing out.
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Spiritual Logicism
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@Math_Enthusiast
Hmmmmm.

Everything is internal,

Externality is an assumption converted from incoming signalling.

Spirituality is a notable reaction to a specific stimuli.

Logic is how data is ordered.

And truth is determined by the self,

Or externally, truth is an indeterminate factor of what we assume.

Nonetheless, perhaps an actual human being will one day visit Mars.

Just as a few have visited the Moon, I think.

Such is the nature of what we might conclude to be reality.
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A Perspective on the Violence in Nashville
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@Savant
Something that is probably true, therefore might not be.

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What abortion basically comes down to.
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@Savant
Not really.

Pro-choice and anti-abortion, both differentiate between something relative to conditioning systems.

The status and importance of living matter.

Science just attempts to make sense of processes.


Realistically, we are all selectively moral, so the unscientific fact is that most anti-abortionists have a tendency to be hypocritical.


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Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
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@Athias


Just like everything is gleaned from what goes before.

If we could glean the future, now wouldn't that be amazing.



And for sure, no chocolate eggs for me.


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EV poll
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@sadolite
For sure.

But we develop needs to match technology.

Prior to the introduction of personal devices, you didn't have a need for them.

Prior to the introduction of the internal combustion engine, people didn't have a need for it.



Material evolution,

One either keeps up with it, or one doesn't.


Enjoy you weekend.


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The Deceit of Christians and Biblical Words.
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@ludofl3x
Not sure if J spoke English.

His Dad spoke something called tongues. Which I suppose was sort of slurpy and spitty.

A bit like Welsh.


Happy Chocolate Egg Weekend.
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March Madness
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@FLRW
Men love playing with their balls this time of year.


Happy chocolate Egg Weekend.
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EV poll
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@sadolite
Do you have a smartphone.

Did anyone ask you if it would be a good idea to develop them, and to install all the infrastructure it takes to make them work.

Did you complain.

What about spending on high tech defence equipment.

Anyone consult you?

Did you complain.


Stuff happens, we move on, the future of personal transport in the short term will be a transition from the internal combustion engine to electric.


Though:

More and more humans demanding more and more electricity.

The next problem is already here really, before we even get there.


So, the most cost effective way of keeping the lights on Mr S?

Nuclear......Huge public investment .

Will you complain?
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What abortion basically comes down to.
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@Best.Korea
Well, flashing my butt at old ladies would be rude.
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Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
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@Tradesecret
Not sure that Christians never did exploit others for their personal pockets.

Sort of how the system worked/works.

And how  Christian Churches accrued/accrue their wealth.



And, the concept of resurrection wasn't thought up nor monopolised by a bunch of Middle Easterners.

I think that people had noticed that things died and reappeared, long before J supposedly did.

Christian were definitely the plagiarisers  in this instance.


Which therefore tells us that the Christian message was nothing new.

Different wrapping maybe,

Same old chocolate.


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@sadolite
Do you ever consider the future, in respect of those who will exist in the future.

Material evolution is an ongoing principle and therefore we are always transitioning from one idea to another.

Older brains like yours and mine try to keep apace with new stuff, but we were  weighed down by our formative expectations decades ago.


Governments do what governments need to do in response to what needs to be done relative to now and the future.

And stuff costs stuff, it's the nature of the system.

We've been subsidising infrastructure and social expectation for as long as infrastructure and social expectations have been deemed to be social necessities.

So what good are any vehicles without roads to drive them on.


Happy Chocolate Egg Weekend Sadolite.
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Material and Spiritual
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@ebuc
@Math_Enthusiast
Universe is,

I think.

And we are,

An agglomeration of,

Universal dots.

I suppose.


Happy Chocolate Egg Weekend.
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Abortion is Human Sacrifice by Definition
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@YouFound_Lxam
Abortion is human sacrifice.

By definition,

That might be considered a truism.

In so much as the inclusive scenario is driven solely by human social expectation.


You will find that ideas and expectations vary considerably though.


Happy Chocolate Egg Weekend Y.F.L



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What abortion basically comes down to.
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@Best.Korea
The basic principle is, that the death of the living sustains the living until death.

And everything living takes it's place within that system.

And humans have evolved to think that they are more important than anything else,

Which in terms of material evolution might be true.

And Best Korea loves and hates in equal proportions, shining as a beacon of human moral ambiguity.


Happy Chocolate Egg Weekend B.K.





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Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
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@Athias
Which came first the Pagan or the Christian?

And so surprise surprise J became a symbol of resurrection.

And now we have consumerism, rebranding Easter and selling us a different message.

Happy Chocolate Egg Weekend Athias.




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Is it okay to bless the water before drinking it?
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@Stephen
Yep.

Synonyms.




Happy Chocolate Egg weekend Stephen.
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Transgenderism is a mental illness.
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@YouFound_Lxam
All mentality is ordered in some way.

Even that of  Donald Trump and his supporters.

it's just that some are slightly dafter than others.
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Is it okay to bless the water before drinking it?
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@Deb-8-a-bull
That's the thing with holy stuff Deb.

You only need to think it's there.

So testing will reveal nothing.

Who knows what pervy priests add to the bottle.

It's what is known as anointing.
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Objjective morality?
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@Sidewalker
I have 4 bunches of bananas.

In one bunch there are 5 bananas

In another 6

In another 4

In another 3

So 2 + 2 might equal  18, or 4 or 9 + 9, or 10 + 8, or 11 + 7.

Therefore 2 + 2 does not necessarily equal 4.

Such are the possibilities of internal data processing/ subjectivity.

Objectivity is also an internal assumption.
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Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
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@Tradesecret
It's good because there are only two days to go until Chocolate Egg Day.

It's a bank holiday, so a chance to chill out, fire up the barbeque (weather permitting) and have a few beers with ones friends.

Chocolate Egg weekend has always been a joyous time of year for kiddies and adults alike.


Interestingly, Chocolate Egg Day varies from year to year. 

Probably all to do with the chocolate harvest.
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What abortion basically comes down to.
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@Best.Korea
And therefore we are justified in executing Best Korea, if they execute a woman who chooses to abort zygotal tissue.
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TRANSEXUAL PASTOR COMPARES CHILD MURDERER TO JESUS.
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@Best.Korea
How  many labelled Christians have ever read the bible?

And the desire to reproduce is a gift from GOD.
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How to read the Bible - Guide for beginners
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@Tradesecret
But what doesn't exist, can be created internally. For sure.
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TRANSEXUAL PASTOR COMPARES CHILD MURDERER TO JESUS.
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@Best.Korea
There you go again.

What is a Christian Rank?

A Christian is anyone who cares to take the book seriously and join the Christian club.

Recreational sex is what they do after Church.


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Objjective morality?
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@Best.Korea
A tolerant  Nation comprises an entire population and it's shared ideas. Sweden is therefore secular, but with a larger proportion of it's  population choosing to take part in Lutheran practices.

This doesn't necessarily make Sweden a Christian Country.


The USA has a female majority.

So therefore is the USA a Female Country.

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What abortion basically comes down to.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Typically, people do not abort infants.

And abortions tend to result from sexual pleasure, rather than sexual pleasure resulting from abortion.

You see, it all boils down to words and how extravagantly one chooses to use them.

I would suggest that typically abortion is no more than the removal of an undeveloped blob of human organic tissue.

And typically also, an infant is a child between the ages of four and eight.
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@Best.Korea
I'm still not sure if you are what you say you are,

Or actually just having a laugh taking the p*ss out of Good Ole gun toting Christian Folk.

 
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Objjective morality?
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@Best.Korea
What is a Christian Country?

Can you name one?
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How to read the Bible - Guide for beginners
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@Tradesecret
Well, you just proposed an interpretation of what might or might not constitute a discussion.

Exchange of dialogue, will do for me.


As I see it:

Basically we both accept a notion of Universal purpose.

Though your notion comes loaded with unnecessary speculation.

Picked up along the way as you thrashed about in the spiritual undergrowth looking for something that was never really there.

And although you think you found something, you have no way of showing me what it is.

Because there is nothing to see.


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Transgenderism is a mental illness.
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@TWS1405_2
If one feels challenged, maybe it is because they are disordered and therefore handicapped.

Perhaps often manifesting as complete intolerance.

Though reaction is the hypocrisy of the intolerant.

Whereas ignorance is the strength of the contented.
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Asa Hutchison is running for the Republican nomination- Does anybody care?
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@Savant
Who is we Big Bro?
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How to read the Bible - Guide for beginners
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@Tradesecret
We have been discussing.

Though nothing as yet has led me to consider that the hopeful speculative theist is actually on to something different.


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How to read the Bible - Guide for beginners
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@Tradesecret
Yep, the Bible has become a significant compilation of recounted tales concerning the lives of a collection of prominent characters from Middle Eastern History.

Now. It's patently apparent that said tales are embellished with mysticism and fantasy, which to be fair is no more than one would expect.

And for sure, there is also undoubtedly a level of factuality that forms the basis of the tales.

Hence we end up with what can be correctly defined as a Mythology.


All data, acquired, modified and reproduced by a series of self interested third parties.
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How to read the Bible - Guide for beginners
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@Stephen
See above.
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How to read the Bible - Guide for beginners
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@Stephen
Where to start?


So the dusty Black Book on the back of the book shelf, is an object.

And therefore everything.


From this I am able to conclude that,

The Moon is an object,

And therefore cheese, Grommit.


Have a Grand Sunny Bromsgrovian Day.
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How to read the Bible - Guide for beginners
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@Tradesecret
The Bible is an objective book.

There you go again Trade.



I've already stated how yes, an object in itself is objective.

But as a doctrine, it is pretty useless without it's subjective content.


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TRUMP INDICTED!
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Yep.

The new Orange Man Comedy Circus Spectacular started last night on British T.V.

Orange Clown as funny as ever.

Wherrrrrrrrrrre's Stormy.

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Discussion over infant baptism v other forms of baptism
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@Tradesecret
HaHa.

Yep, satire is designed to be both silly and meaningful.


But.

The World according to Trade.

Says That,

Zed is silly,

And splashing water on kids isn't.

There you go again.

Interpretation Interpretation Interpretation.
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How to read the Bible - Guide for beginners
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@Tradesecret
So is the Bible a proven theory Trade?

Me thinks not.

The Bible is a wholly subjective collection of subjective versions of 2000+ years old continuously subjective retelling's of exaggerated subjective hand me down folk tales. All relative to a few particular people who resided in one small corner of the Middle East.
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@Tradesecret
It's one of those things that people decided to do Trade.

And afterwards they thought,

Isn't this brilliant.

And sooooo meaningful.



And others go in for penis mutilation.

Brilliant.


And the Lord said unto them,

Showeth me a nice clean head.


Interpretation Trade.

Interpretation.



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How to read the Bible - Guide for beginners
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@Stephen
Yes, I'd noticed that.
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@Tradesecret
Weeties not my favourite Trade.

Porridge is the stuff.

And perhaps we don't read the same dictionary, or perhaps we read the same dictionary but not in the same way.

A hypothesis in it's narrative form is objective, in so much as it is a demonstrable documentation of said hypothesis, but this in no way objectively substantiates the hypothetical content of the narrative.

In fact, hypothetical and subjective could be said to be synonymous.



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You need people like your mother's new boyfriend.
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@Greyparrot
What are the causes of the common person?

What is a common person?


Fanfare for the Common Man.

Aaron Copland

Great American composer.

Great piece of composition.
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My Challenge.
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@Best.Korea
You see, BK.

The body is genetically pre-programmed,

Something that you have no control over.

If you like, something that GOD did for you.

And so GOD programmed you with the constant innate desire to procreate.

Unfortunately though, GOD never really provided the circumstances whereby procreation on demand was readily available.

So we therefore were also presented with the circumstances by GOD, whereby we had balls full of jiz and a head full of sex  and nothing to inseminate.

So where to go GOD? 

Instruction manual not really helpful.


And of course, the females of the species are different, but also infused with the same innate instruction to procreate.

You never really mention or worry unduly about Lesbian sex though. (Perhaps a bit of a turn on)


As for diseases'

Well, GOD provided for them too.

And every aspect of our lives, leaves us vulnerable to unwanted attention from pesky pathogens.

But just as we learned how to cope with the stresses of pesky penis urges, we also learned how to cope with the possible problems presented by pesky pathogens.


Thanks be to GOD for giving us the ability and opportunity to work things out for ourselves.


GOD: Not necessarily the floaty about bloke from Judea. Alternative ideas are available.
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