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Spirituality is an internal electro chemical response to an external stimulus.

Incoming data signals cause the brain to react in varying ways, relative to our established databases.

We already possess data which was previously established as being either spiritual or non-spiritual.

Some people have religion stored under spiritual, and others have religion stored in the non-sense section.

So we react accordingly.

I too find that specific incoming data occasionally flicks a sort of internal spiritual switch.

Nothing to do with magical floaty about Middle Easterners though.

People think all the time.

It's the nature of the beast.

LGBT is just people obsessing about recreational sexuality.

Which it seems, is also the nature of the beast.

As a thinking species we've never quite come to terms with the penis vagina thing.

And studies are fine, if you're prepared to listen to both studies.

But if you are only interested in one study, they studies become pointless.

Though World population is increasing, so a lot of people have still got the hang of the procreational thing.

No worries.

Just leave the gender benders to fiddle with their bits.

And stop obsessing about gender benders fiddling with their bits.

For sure, all down to interpretation again Trade.

Pagan:  Beliefs other than those of the main World religions.

Interpret that how you will.

But bear in mind that the biblical interpretation of "creation" is pretty much debunked.

And the Christian interpretation of Pre-Christian regional tales is pretty much a 1st to 3rd century adaptation of the regions long pagan past.

In my opinion.

And I not  exactly sure why an omni-entity would need a rest.

But probably because it is a GOD created in Man's image.

Someone who?

Societal change is gradual.

And the bit that affects us the most is this bit.

And affect in this context, means that which challenges ideas that were established previously.

And ideas that became established, were instilled by others who were affected by even earlier stages of social development.

So we are sort of always playing data catch up. And therefore we are always somewhat out of date in terms of our established data bases relative to current trends.

You either run with the new, or stress over what inevitably happened but does not correspond with your established way of thinking.

Better to live your short life as you so choose and let others do the same.

And in a few years time everything will be the same, but always slightly different.

Though penis, vagina and endocrinal hang ups will probably still be topical, just as they always have been.

Not sure that Saturday and Sunday were pre-Christian Jewish concepts.

Therefore Sabbath was really just another tradition adopted from previous Jewish paganism.

Just another ideology centred around  the innate necessity of sexual reproduction.

Just more over thinking about penises and vaginas and the endocrinal itch.

It's always been a human mental fascination, for obvious reasons.

And of course, there will be money to be made.

Yep. But there are alternatives, that  perhaps some people find more relevant to their way of thinking.

US casted atom bombs twice, it is faster.

You say some interesting things.

Or say things interestingly.

Definitely an inefficient method of whole body disposal.

Firstly needs breaking down and dehydrating to create a more combustible material.

I picture you stood defiant on a mound looking majestically skyward.

Or majestically on a mound looking defiantly skyward.

Why I ask again, why not...

The reality is that GODS Law was made up by men.

Same as ever.

The reality is, that marriage is a concept and anyone can have sex with anyone else if they so choose.....And they do.

And GODs never actually say anything.

Men make up what GODS say.....Always have done.

Being rich comes with all the stresses of being rich

Just as being poor comes with all the stresses of being poor.

Just as being anything in between, comes with all the stresses of that too.

Survival takes mental and physical effort.

And it will kill you in the end.

Doesn't matter how much cash you have.

A niche, common sense and contentment are three coping strategies.

But even these take effort.

Perhaps the best one can hope for is a good contentment to effort ratio.

25% effort to 75% contentment, or something like that.

Sweet dreams.

Does a game like golf need gender specific segregation?

I suppose it all depends upon,

A hole in one..

EVIL

Is anagrams of.

LIVE VILE VEIL.

I wonder how Mr Ethan is getting on. 

Is it possible to spam ones own thread before it has become a thread?

Pious Misogynists command.

GOD's say f**k all.

Under normal circumstances.

Females produce eggs 

And males produce sperm.

Though:

If one f**ks about surgically, medically and psychologically,

Then Bob's your Aunty,

And Fanny's your Uncle,

So to speak.

Currently,

All the rage.

But:

Don't forget that,

Normal is as normal does,

At any given moment.

Does stuff conform to math, or does math conform to stuff?

Math is an internal assessment of an internally assessed externality.

Therefore math is subjective, and external stuff at best is probably real, but this is also based upon an internal and therefore subjective assessment.

As such, objectivity can only be an internal qualification of an internal assessment. Therefore Math can only be said to be internally objective.

Ultimately, objectivity, subjectivity and an awareness of existence are wholly reliant upon conscious appreciation.

No thinker, then nothing to think about.

I would suggest that in modern protestant circles, baptism is largely about two things. 

1.Tradition.

2. Co-opting new members into the club.

And sin is something that most protestants pay little heed to.

I suppose that it all depends upon how seriously one regards club membership. 

The serious hierarchy take it seriously.

And the less serious masses, turn up on a Sunday morning when the mood takes them. 

One would hope that all Americans are Democratic Republicans.

One would further hope that the majority of Americans remain Moderate Democratic Republicans.

"The West" relies upon a rational U.S. 

Don't let the nut jobs take over the asylum.

Well, I never claim to know.

Though Zeds regard to everything is:

The dichotomy is, chance or purpose.

Therefore life was either a Random coalescence of chemistry and energy and is therefore ultimately meaningless.

Or, the sequence of events that Zed regards as universal material evolution, dictates that life is an inevitable consequence of universal development, and therefore meaningful within that context. In so much as life is an essential phase  and motivator of material development and progress. What I loosely refer to as the GOD principle.

Yes, I would agree that it is reasonable to have faith in such processes.

Though I would still contend that external reality is what it is.

Whereas logic and math require conscious effort.

Well,

External reality probably is, and therefore what is is.

And so this would be a truism.

Though truth as a concept is only the necessity of an internally dependant organism, and so an external reality can only be indirectly assessed.

Well, biology is a that which makes up a living structure, and processes and functions within a structure maintain the structure.

So that basically describes a living structure.

But doesn't pinpoint what life actually is.

So here's a different approach to the question.

What was it that initiated  the very first living entity/ entities.

And what perpetuated them.

Well that's the point.

Everything that I do own that is made from crude oil will not disappear immediately.

In fact, oil derived plastics will be about for years and years to come.

Though there are already alternatives available. Same with lubricants. Same with combustible compounds.

Though whatever the energy requirement, crude derivatives or green energy, demand will likely out strip supply as population grows.

And non-renewable crude will just not last for ever, and will certainly not be enough to supply demand for much longer.

Whether or not you accept that human influenced global climate change is something that should be taken seriously, is up to you and other conspiracy theorists.

I'm not so cynical.

More fool me perhaps.

Or more fool you.

We will just have to wait and see.

If we can last out till then.

Antifa.

Sort of fascist anti-fascists then.

People with guns, kill.

Remove the guns from the equation and people will still kill, but it won't be quite as sexy.

Just a sad facet of American social culture.

Ah, but we need to defend ourselves from a tyrannical government.

Bullsh*t.

Another day, another shooting, business as usual.

What is life?

As opposed to what is a life.

What fundamentally makes structures A and B work.

Sorry Mr  S.

But that really does sound like an I fear change and hate paying my taxes rant.

Do you honestly think that every bit of scientifically derived information regarding the global environment is BS, and some sort of conspiracy  designed to keep the working man to heel.

Well.

The organic computer doesn't process numerically.

We acquire this ability, some better than others.

Whereas A.I. processes numerically  and can convert readily. 

And if you consider how we process and appreciate data,  then simulation isn't really a hypothetical consideration.

Everything is an internal projection, derived from incoming sensory signals.

Therefore truth and reality are always an assumptive simulation of an assumed external reality. 

So we can qualify to degree by agreement, but agreement is a still only a collection of assumed truths and realities.

Tits up.

The bigger the better it would seem.

And to be fair to the sapphic brigade.

Would you want to date a transsexual?

All that emotional baggage.

Might as well date the real thing.

After all, lesbianism is specifically  lesbianism, not pseudo lesbianism.

Completely different taste.

It would be like ordering a cucumber sandwich, only to find a banana between the bread.

Well. 

Crude oil was first discovered and utilised approximately 2600 years ago.

(Though the effects of natural phenomena related to crude oil may have been witnessed long before that.)

Suffice it to say though, that the human race survived for 200000  - 300000 years without the benefits of burning and refining crude oil.

So I expect that when all natural resources have dried up, we will have come up with other coping strategies.

I think that we are already pretty good at refining oils and other hydrocarbons from plant material.

As for science, well science is probably wrong nine times out of ten, which believe it or not is the nature of the exercise.

Good old trial and error as it were.

N.B.

Nine times out of ten was simply a figure of speech, and in no way meant to be statistically accurate.

One cannot believe that truth is true without casting doubt.

Which is not to say that one cannot believe that truth is true.

One can believe anything, wherein truth is unknowable and doubt is therefore built into the equation.

Damn the eloquence of the man.

Ta ta.

Hi Doc. 

Something's rattled your cage.

Men with balls and Women with balls and achieving top spot.

Sort of sums up the sporting analogy/analogies.

What was it RM said about big thick black people and slender little Asians.

I think that they've been watching too much porn

Top of the morning to ya.

Tranny porn supports an industry that supports it's staff that provides for the needs of it's customer base.

Such is capitalism and the American dream.

That and guns.

There's science and then there's science fiction.

Hollywood deals with science fiction.

And scientists deal with science.

To ignore science is to bury one's head in the sand.

And also to discredit everything humans have ever achieved.

Things like the refinement of crude oil and the internal combustion engine.

The other thing is, you and I were born at a time when such luxuries were just unquestionably there to have.

And now the tough question is, for how much longer can we just have it.

Scientists have come up with an alternative for us.

It's going to cost though.

Well stated.

I like the fact that you don't just argue the toss with the same old emotive rhetoric.

And for sure, we can compartmentalise anything and make a special case for it.

Therefore all killing is the same but different.

I personally cannot differentiate between the life within a tomato and the life within a zygote. (Rather than the life of a tomato or zygote).

Can you actually pinpoint the essence of life, and then say that the life within structure A. is completely different to that within structure B.

If not then the whole abortion argument, really just boils down to the interpretation of concepts.

Morality, and  Law for example.

And often tinged with more than a smattering of religion.

Me too.

12.96.

Define the truth premise a little more clearly, so that it can be better appreciated by your audience.

Are you comparing truth with reality.

If so...Reality according to what?

Internal data processing, or immediate internally processed appreciations of external stimuli.

In both cases, simulated truths or realities.

Or perhaps just simulations

Math just converts to numbers.

But for the most part we have to convert back again to an understandable narrative or image.

Perhaps this is where A.I. will have the edge. (Alternative Intelligence)

What do you think?

Let me put it another way.

How many anti-abortionists  have an absolute commitment to the sanctity of human life, whereby there are no circumstances that justify the taking of another life.

The human computer handles data relative to variable instruction, resulting in variable output.

So religiousness is typically a variation on an atheist theme, or vice versa.

Hence, when the religious and the non-religious  indulge in discourse, the resulting transaction is typically not about pneumatic tyres and bananas.

Trouble is.

Even ongoing recurrences of material development and decline have to start somewhere, don't they?

Selective morality for sure.

And quite often even within this narrow band of distinction, selective moralists are also prepared to make exceptions to the rule.

Is your regard for human life, total and without exception?

True.

What is a rhing by the way?

I learned not believing in, from Dad.

Accepting that something is true without any real proof, is a bit daft.

So there are quite a lot of daft people.

But as long as they are reasonably daft we're OK.

It's the unreasonably daft that one needs to steer clear of.

Sort of, don't go trekking in Afghanistan.

Hey, you're becoming more of a realist. (Whatever that might mean)

Though I would suggest that the development of the name, probably tells us something about the development of the global story and it's association with social ideology, wealth and power.

A Just GOD.

Says who?

Some Latin geezer I suppose.

A nice cool bottle of Sunlander IPA.

Perhaps wouldn't benefit from salty jizz notes.

Though I suppose we shouldn't knock it until we've tried it.