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Because I was uncertain, I did check it out prior to asking and all references referred to quantum theory and theoretical physics.

And more brief research would suggest that MRI and PET technology use established principles and techniques, albeit advanced.

Though the base principles that power said technology are still not fully understood. Nonetheless quantum mechanics seems to be a workable theory.

Sort of working backwards though development:

E. is workable because we can understand and manipulate D. and C. by applying the effects of B.

 

But we still don't fully understand how A generates the effects of B.

Isn't this the age old conundrum?

Which to be fair, could be regarded as magical.

Amongst other important jobs demanded of it by the mass; the brain can also convert incoming sensory signals into storable data, which it can then re -utilise at will.

If it can remember what it did with it of course.

Applying conscious demands is probably a good thing for the brain "muscles".

Is quantum mechanics theoretical.

If so, it is only fictional magic.

Like what wizards do.

Einstein would have been spooky on a dark night, wearing a cowl in a graveyard.

Subjective then.

Should be able to smell the difference.

Seriously.

Just practice with people you know, and you will see what I mean.

Big hairy hands is another.

Big feet

Mincing

Deep voice

Knobbly knees

Crotch fiddling.

Arse scratching.

Oh, the wig of course.

Check out Jamie Lee Curtis's Theychild.

I would suggest that a conscious entity cannot turn innate demand for basic needs on or off.

But can make conscious decisions relative to their predicament.

As I probably stated previously, slavery was essential to human social and intellectual development.

Though we have a tendency these days to regard slavery only as Nasty Old Whites with big boats and poor old blacks in shackles.

Whereas slavery has been around ever since hominids came up with the idea.

Probably somewhere in Africa.

True.

No-one is black.

Just varying levels of melanin.

Most people range from very light, to swarthy and through to very dark.

The classification regarded as black is very misleading.

Very swarthy people can end up in either category, white or black.

Even some people with albinism are referred to as black.

And some people with melanism can be referred to as white.

Such is the imprecision of overthink relative to anatomy, physiology and changing demographics.

I wonder what colour GOD is.

It would be f**king brilliant if it was green. 

Are Asian, Oriental and Hispanic, separate categories or what?

Do we need to rethink the whole human categorising system?

We're  doing that with gender categorisation.

Hey, what about race dysphoria and transrace. A white person who was born into a black body, or vice versa.

Tears of despair.

Nope, too old for transformers Deb.

Though I suspect that trannies, both vestite and sexual quite enjoy the thrill of lingerie formerly known as female underwear.

Of course, all underwear is now regarded as they pants.

And of course the other type of trannysexuals have a penchant for they pants formerly known as boxers. 

Such is the frisson of excitement one gets from slipping ones erogenous bits into delicate fabrics.

Know what I mean Deb?

And you always get 10 out of 10 from me Deb.

Transgender. Man in suspenders.

Is that an adverse reaction reaction to bright lights.

When I see the word transgender, it's not long before I'm thinking jelly and blancmange.

And when I see the word blancmange, it's not long before I'm thinking naked mud wrestling with a proper woman.

And the first woman that springs to mind is Fiona Bruce.

Don't tell Mrs Zed.

Rhetorical question.

Is it ethical for black people to not be African.

Yep.

Sounds like a marketing strategy.

Whereby twitter sell something worth absolutely nothing to as many gullible numpties as  they possible can, for $8 a pop.

Roll up, roll up.

Get your lovely blue check mark here.

Only $8 dollars Sir.

Ah, but the power of indoctrination lessens the older one gets.

So by the time one gets to school one is already doomed.

Nice.

And how many women that identify as men stand up to piss.

Wet trousers every time.

Though I suppose that they could wear dresses.....Sort of object defeating though.

And do they face forwards or backwards.

Perhaps we could corner the market in trans-urinals.

Though I suppose they could just sit down on a conventional toilet.

Damn!  Scrap the urinal idea Deb

Of course, men that identify as women perhaps have other discharge issues.

Formative indoctrination starts at home and sometimes in churches.

And then moves on to schools and possibly churches again.

So don't blame the government for everything

Blame your parents and the priest.

And then blame the government.

Depends where one is conditioned I suppose.

Certainly in the U.K. criticism of government is seen as a positive.

And for sure, formative indoctrination is unavoidable. It's the nature of society.

Nope.

One either knows or  one doesn't know.

So within the context of written English communication I know how to sequence words appropriately enough.

And I assume that you are similarly acquainted with the English language,  well enough to interpret my narrative.

No believe required.

Just appropriately relative knowledge and a optimistic assumption based upon appropriately relative data.

Otherwise I might just write Rhubarb Rhubarb Rhubarb and you would stare gormlessly at your screen.

Believe is simply a qualifier of uncertainty.

To be honest Deb,  I don't believe in anything.

The sun will or won't rise again tomorrow.

And Cactisimians might or might not  flower in the sunshine.

And Trade and their like give atheism reason....This is a fact.....No belief required.

And for sure, the wise old Cactus is named Magic.

As in Mr Johnson.

And Mr Cactus.

Disclaimer:

Not in any way wishing to marginalise any other marginal gender type assumptionists.

Like, They Cactus

Or, They Johnson.

Notwithstanding penises and vaginas and all associated mechanisms.

One needs to be sooo sensitive these days.

Magic!

Atheism can't be a theory because there is no theory.

And logically, atheism can't be a religion because there is no religion.

Though we know all about words and interpretation Trade.

So back to basics Trade.

The atheist simply states that the theist cannot prove the basis of their religion.

So the theist will always reply that the atheist cannot disprove the hypothetical basis of religion.

Which is all that theists can say because they cannot prove the hypothetical basis of their religion.

Even though the burden of proof lies with the claimant and not with the doubter of the claim.

And science has never lead theists to a definitive point of ha ha told you so.

Now, if a Christian deity actually existed it could  sort this out once and for all in a jiffy. Simply by saying  ha ha they told you so.

As ever trade. 

GOD principle sound.

Floaty about Middle Easterners not sound.

I do not believe in anything.

Belief implies uncertainty.

One either knows, assumes or hopes.

And colours...If ever there was an incoming signal converted into an assumption.

And if one thing has become apparent from discussions with American students is that they were taught to think inside boxes.

Which to be fair, is the nature of formative education.

Wisdom comes with age.

Wise old men as the saying goes.

And wise old women.

And of course not forgetting wise old any sort of other gender.

And so you know all about Thought Police.

For sure.

But we cannot reach C with out firstly establishing the veracity of the alternatives.

Have a nice day Trade.

Jobs to do now.

GODDO already knew about guns even before he created the Universe.

After all he is Mr OMNI.

Just like he knows what Deb is going to say before Deb says it.

Such is the power of OMNI.

I propose that OMNIGOD is actually an acronym.

Though I haven't worked out what it stands for.

Any ideas Deb.

Cognitive biases.

Yep that exactly what I was referring to previously.

Yet you labelled it as debunked continuum fallacy.

Have you read 1984 by George Orwell?

Well nice statement, which immediately brings to mind another ongoing thread concerning the concept of logical fallacy and circular reasoning.

Like I stated A. so C. and lets disregard the interim hypothesis.

If something cannot be proved then it cannot be known to be true, and therefore the hypothesis cannot be disregarded.

Well it can......Which brings us nicely back to A. so C. and lets disregard B.

Logical fallacy circularly reasoned.

I would suggest religious righteousness has never been dependant upon logical processing

Religion only requires A so C. and will disregard the interim hypothesis in it's need to reach a state of righteousness.

Whereas scientific method requires proof of B in order to establish the truth.

Ha Ha.....It just occurred to me that religion is a conspiracy theory.

Magic Mushrooms did.

I think.

It's reasonable to assume that humans exist.

Though race is an abstract concept derived from subjective processing in response to varying incoming stimuli.

So it's just as reasonable for Platypi to not believe, as it is for you to believe.

You do not have the monopoly on thought labelling.

The very nature of internal data processing, means that all output is the result of a subjective process.

Especially an abstract concept such as morality.

For sure, at the end of the day we cannot prove something that is unprovable.

And we both know that.

We're getting there.

It's probably all down to overthink, relative to material development.

Consumerism is undoubtedly a factor.

Immorality is a somewhat abstract concept though.

And why breed when you have a little screen in your hand which provides you with all the stimulation you require.

.

Well, it's an acquired reaction, which is undoubtedly a natural reaction.

Though to be fair, a lot of people are more considerate than we give them credit for.

In discussions such as this we tend to focus on the inconsiderate.

Well, my wife has never watched a moment of porn in her entire life and she still managed two miscarriages.

Porn has got f**k all to do with it.

Sometimes you say the most stupid things.

If only physiological complexity were the be all and end all of it.

As I suggested, the rapid analysis of incoming data is a base survival strategy, doesn't matter who is analysing who.

Extended analysis and secondary conceptualisation is where the thoughtful discrimination arises from.

You are not a threat, but hang on we are black and you are white and so 400 years ago etc.

Everything and nothing to do with genetic differences.

Overthink is the human condition, it can seemingly be problematic, but of course it might actually be essential.

Time will tell.

Would you sacrifice yourself to save 5 random people.

And math is relative to the mathematician, moral or immoral.

Whereas abortion issues tend to get over-blown with emotion by the over-conditioned over-emotional.

So will you happily give up your life to save a zygote BK.

And abortionists (whatsoever they maybe) might suggest that a woman's life choice is more important than a bundle of zygotic matter.

Whereas no reasonable person would down play the importance of a child's potential.

Children are not aborted, because they were not aborted.

Hence they are children.

And more zygotic material gets pissed down the pan everyday than will be surgically aborted in a lifetime.

Sorry, being a tad over conditioned, over emotional and not statistically accurate there.

But you get my drift.

The past is history.

Either forget it.

Or keep raking s**t.

Probably depends upon which is the most lucrative.

That and the human propensity for raking s**t.

For the want of something to occupy their limited minds with in response to their own short lived insecurities and universal worth or worthlessness.

And then there are cleverer people who probably need to get on with doing clever stuff.

Their minds occupied with the necessity of getting on with clever stuff.

In the meantime give the masses smartphones.

Head down and drool at the digital wonder captured on that little screen.

Tarts and trannies alike in their glorious underwear and marvellous tattoos.

What it is to be human, hey Kaitlyn.

No more than one would expect.

Everyone discriminates in response to perceived differences.

It's a basic survival strategy.

Do "Black" people think that Chinese are Chinese coloured. Did anyone ask them how they discriminate in this instance.

Not that anyone is either black or white.

Just visibly distinguishable. 

At what point does very swarthy become black.

Probably never, because skin tone would have nothing to do with the discrimination criteria in this instance.

Interestingly, a lot of very swarthy people are in fact much darker than a lot of very light black people.

People are BRILLIANT.

Chess certainly isn't woke Deb.

Something needs to done about it.

Drag Queens:  Frockers.

Interesting how you missed my point entirely, and in doing so emphasised my point entirely.

Was she Greek or Egyptian.

Do we have any photographic records of her.

What does this Egyptian guy base his case upon.

Can we sue any actor for not being who they are portraying.

I think the clue is in the word ACTOR.

Someone have a quiet word with the Egyptian please.

Are there any Macedonians suing?

Was the step sister gender neutral, queen or king ?

Or in  fact her own trans-sexual self-copulating step half brother.

Fiddling about with bits to the point of orgasm or fake orgasm  is sooo complicated these days.

I blame the mainstream acceptance of buggery.

And why do rooks always look like castles.

And therefore is the strategic move known as castling also referred to as rooking.

And then there are Bishops, and we all know what Bishops get up to.

Especially Roman Catholic ones.

You're right Deb,

Chess and porn are easily confused.

And in really expensive sets I expect that there are actually Knights  on the horses.

Well, not actual Knights on real horses.

Then there are the sexually ambiguous little Porn Folk.

Or is it Pawn.

It's probably a metaphor anyway.

Good day Bruce.

Wales has loads of castles.

I bet there aren't as many in the U.S. or Oz.

Check mate in one.

Personally speaking.

Although I am patently aware that I am 63 years of age and not 23....(Bodily decline).

From a thinking point of view I still regard my self as exactly the same person.

Sensory awareness in a state of advanced brain dementia is hard to comprehend.

Being aware or ones environment, but having forgotten what everything is.

In a  base scenario, we would long since have been singled out buy predators and eaten.

Though in a base scenario it would have been unlikely that we made it beyond 25 or so.

I had an Aunt who was so demented that she even lost the instinctive ability to eat or drink.

She eventually just curled up into a foetal position and withered away.

I'm not sure that keeping people alive well into decrepitude is of any benefit to anyone.

Cool.

Have a nice day.

And for sure.

He exists today as a stored sequence of electro-chemical data, inside Best Koreas head.

As does  everyone that Best Korea can remember.

Until such times, when internal systems break down or cease to function.

Just as every person fictional or non-fictional that Zed can remember is stored within his organic database....Until such times.

None of which proves the existence of an actual GOD type super-intelligence.

Just show your face GODDO and tell us what you think of transgenderism and the Russo-Ukrainian dispute, and then we can all relax.

Though I feel reasonably relaxed anyway, not needing divine guidance.

Though I suppose that it's fair to say that reasonably relaxed is as reasonably relaxed does.

Are you reasonably relaxed BK?

Come to the UK.

You cannot avoid diversity.

The "English" PM is named Rishi Sunak and the "Scottish" First Minister is named Humza Yousaf.

And the soon to be crowned King is named Charles Philip Arthur George Mountbatten-Windsor. Of Germanic descent though it was thought prudent to drop German associations, given all the 19th and 20th century grief the wider family caused.

Though to be fair, my surname is indicative of a European heredity and my features perhaps indicate Roman and Mediterranean influences. Such was the nature of European social development I suppose.

And then they all sailed to the "New World".

And out popped Lemming.

So we agree that spirituality is simply internal physiology and everything to do with internally created fantasy.

And therefore nothing to do with assumed external fantasies.

And religion as a concept is religion as a concept, this is a truism.

And adherence to an established modus operandi can be interpreted as religious behaviour.

Though I would interpret spiritual responses as special moments of brain activity, rather than as every day religious normality.

Interpretation is always the name of the game Trade.

And interestingly, just as you see everyone as religious.

I see a whole lot of undevout Christians who's atheistic conditioning often manifests in their comments. You included Trade.

Which if you consider how our databases become established is probably only to be expected.

There's doubt in most Christians.

Well.

Mr Ethan was change fearing and GOD fearing.

And quite conservative as a result, I guess.

We were a similar age  and also probably racially similar, so when we were not arguing the GOD principle, we had a certain friendly rapport.

Though I hasten to add, that I am friendly with anyone who is happy being friendly with me.

Britain is too small and too racially diverse now, to be an isolationist.

And Golden Rule....Never discuss religion with someone you don't know.

Except over the internet, from a distance. Where people are generally keen to discuss religion anyway.

Maybe heaven is a coping strategy, thought up by people who couldn't comprehend not being alive.

I bet you've got a red cap too.

Does it have horns on it?