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@PREZ-HILTON
Some Jews are whitish.


The trouble with people drawing attention to specialness, is that it pisses of people who also think that they are also special.

Same as it ever was.
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@ebuc
GUTOE.

Isn't an ultimate theory, still only a theory.

And therefore falls short of a Complete And Final Knowledge Of Everything.....CAFKOE.


If there is any purpose to material development and decline and redevelopment, then wouldn't CAFKOE be vital to the resurrection of the process.

Naught is created or destroyed, but failed to reinitiate. As it might be.
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@badger
For sure, never voice an opinion in the presence of a stranger.

Just make small talk.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Same old shit really.

1. Self defence is one side of a two sided argument; in your case, where both sides have guns and where who shoots first wins.

2. Protection against tyranny is one side of an even bigger argument; in your case, where lots of people have lots of guns and both sides assume that the other side is tyrannical; in this case guns will solve nothing; only cause lots of deaths until such times as a non-violent agreement is reached. Though as long as all citizens are prepared to abide by the rules of the US electoral system every four years, then I don't see much chance of tyranny occurring.

3. Hunting and shooting is also a U.K. pastime; albeit heavily licenced and regulated and with no military grade automatic firearms or hand guns  hiding in the gun cupboard.

4. Mental health and a sense of empowerment and control....Just about sums up the downside of mental health and gun ownership. FFS, guns and mental health issues related to empowerment and control tend not to end well....."Mass shootings and such".

5. Second amendment is just an old outdated bit of paper; put a match to it.


A gun is a violent piece of apparatus, doesn't matter whether it's legal or illegal.

And in any ones hands a gun becomes an instrument of empowerment and control;  it's what is known as the gun effect, and it affects good guys and bad guys alike.


So address the issues that lead to "mass shootings and such".....Why not start in the obvious place, instead of looking for stupid excuses.

Because stupid excuses are always the solution (see above) and therefore "mass shootings and such" are never actually addressed.


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@badger
@Kaitlyn
@Kaitlyn

As I see it there is nothing nationally white about the USA.

So you are probably best regarded as a physiological isolationist.

Not that in any real sense is anyone white...Albino's maybe, but this would include "black" albino's.

So you're pride is probably relative to an ambiguous European heredity.

In so much as Europe was and is a mish mash of all sorts, divided by ever changing borders.


@Badger

Ireland is now the emerald end of the big rainbow....Ain't that right Badge?


As long as we can hang on to freedom of thought for a bit longer, then I can think what the f**k I want about anything.

 

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@ebuc
I used the word compartment to represent the non-vacuum/vacuum idea.
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@b9_ntt
@Tarik

A standard is a social objective that can be lived up to or not, rather than an objective concept per se.

Though a standard is a variable ideal, so only a standard relative to a collective decision.

And how collective decisions are influenced and reached is open to question.

The Russia/Ukraine situation is an obvious example.

How does the Russia/Ukraine situation measure up morally?
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@ebuc
So, I grasp the concept of occupied and unoccupied space. Universe and beyond as it were.

Are you suggesting that the potential of unoccupied space is a separate compartment?

As a concept space can be potentially infinite without boundaries.

Or not.

But to me, the or not option is not so conceptually obvious. Universe in a bubble type thing.

As I see it a universe is only bounded by it's ongoing potential.


Theoretical physicists are fine in theory.

Though tomorrow there will be one with a new big idea.


Though, I assume that all might or might not one day lead to a conclusion.
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@ILikePie5
Science is essential if we're ever going to escape this Earthly prison.

Who sucks or fucks what in the meantime, is just the same old human penis vagina distraction.

Bring on A.I. I say....No penises or vaginas to worry about.
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Unable to scratch own bollocks.
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@Kaitlyn
You miss the point.

I won't attempt to explain.

Regards.
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@ebuc
Space can't be a vacuum because it's full of stuff.

And for sure, 2D is a hypothetical property of a 3D assumption.

in so much as we think we know, but we can't be 100% certain.
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@Best.Korea
Remember that time when Dubya said weapons of mass destruction.

And they found Saddam down a hole.

Fun times.
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@Greyparrot
If kids are going to be prevented from accessing information.

Then society has certainly got it's work cut out.


Step 1.  Eradicate all media technology and broadcasting.


Hmmmmmmm.

I would suggest that it's far too late.
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@YouFound_Lxam
When it comes to guns and penis and vagina confusion and testosterone, mentally unbalanced just about sums up all American men below the age of 100.


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@YouFound_Lxam
Morality and ethics are abstract concepts.

You can interpret them yourself

Or someone will interpret them for you.

And then there's social behaviour, where similar rules apply.
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@oromagi
Penises and vaginas.

Still as hung up as ever on penises and vaginas and what to do with them.

Isn't it ironic that GOODO made em both reproduction bits and pissing bits.

And then there's the anus!

Hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhhahahahahahaha, laughed GODDO.



Bring on asexual AI is what I say.

And leave humanity floundering about in a metaphorical sea of it's own discharge.


And it says that Zooey Zephyr is trans-sexual and bisexual.

Any which way, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, laughs GODDO
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@ebuc
For sure.

And I will give you an E/C for EbuccubE.

Have a nice day.
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@Kaitlyn
Actually I think that we do agree.

It's just that you are caught in the moment, and assess such issues from the perspective of the modern human.

Whereas I like to make comparative assessments between the base human and it's modern derivatives.

"Basic human biology" and the overthought approach to basic human biology, as it were.

Recreational sex....You were basically saying what I was saying.

But how do we define natural?

What isn't natural?

Surely everything that occurs within the universe is of a natural cause.
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@Kaitlyn
Does any other species behave in the same way to an unclothed body.

For sure, naked people have become a distraction, but only  because we have been brainwashed into thinking that they are a distraction.

Such is one drawback of overthink I suppose.

And also the drawback of elaborately overthought recreational sex.
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@Lemming
I work in the Pharmacy industry.

And first hand knowledge tells me that old heroin addicts still require a fix on a daily basis.

Albeit a safer alternative.


And I think that obsessive behaviour is a certain level of addiction, though long term physiological damage is not as irreversible as from chemical addiction.


And modern life presents us with time to fill, which is a situation that some people find difficult to cope with.

Got to be doing something, as it were.

My advice is.......No, you haven't, take the opportunity to reflect, and relax both mind and body.


Have a nice day Lemming.

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@Dr.Franklin
Top of the morning Doc.
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@Kaitlyn
I don't think wealth is sufficient to attract a mate.
You probably watch too many slushy movies.


Besides, both men and women are primarily attracted to looks first.
There's an element of truth in this statement, but over the past 300000 years, context has obviously changed markedly and intellectual reasoning has modified how we regard our responses to innately inspired behaviour. But for sure, the females would have been attracted to the dominant male. Whereas today we consciously organise society differently and therefore apply alternative criteria to the pairing and mating processes.


As for the little 5'0 balding but extremely wealthy hypothetical. I'm sure that he would have no problems attracting a cooperative mate. Slushy concepts such as love would have very little to do with it

Though once again it's all about contexts and comparisons. Remove money from the equation and the little chinless bloke wouldn't stand a chance. Just as back in the day he would have long since have been eaten by lions.


My initial post, wasn't about acquired modern behaviour, but about how modern behaviour is only a conscious modification of the innate programme, and how this relates to modern gender roles compared to primary gender roles.

And in this instance, let's not get hung up on modern conscious modifications and approaches to gender. That's a related but separate issue.
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@Kaitlyn
The richer man represents the Alpha-Male.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
I wonder if GOD is omni-larious.

I guessing that he/she/it pisses him/her/itself on a daily basis, watching 8 billion humans floundering around here on this speck of universal dust.

Hey Gabriel! Come and look at this lot again; they're still fighting and now they've come up with the concepts of wokeness and gender neutrality and that fat stubbly bloke Smith is gender neutral and Debs in the shed powder coating the slave and Zeds in the shed oiling up his.

And they still do all that singing and mumbling stuff on Sunday mornings; what's that all about.

I think it's about you  boss.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
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@Kaitlyn
Yep, clothes and the development of.

Logically developed for comfort and protection.

Illogically considered in regard to the bizarre human concept of indecency, relative to our crazy ongoing body conscious hang ups.

What it is to be human I suppose.


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@Kaitlyn
It's perhaps a lot to do with how we naturally relate to innate instruction.

The old bread winner thing was simply an extension of the male role

And the house wife was an extension of the mothering role.

Extended by intellectual assessment.

Though the natural male role would have been short bursts of effort with extended periods of rest, so not naturally conducive to long periods of breadwinning.

Whereas the natural mothering role was lengthy periods of physical commitment, resting mostly during familial sleep events.

So the natural female role is conducive to the modern breadwinning role in relation to modern family values and breeding patterns.

So perhaps under the guise of feminism and equality etc, we are actually just continuing to mirror base instinct.





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@Bella3sp
Yep, that would be helpful.
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@Dr.Franklin
@Kaitlyn
Yep, derived from the Frenck/Italian pantaloon/pantalone..

Which were sort of both underpants and trousers.

Trousers/Trews is a Scottish Irish Gaelic thing.

So I expect that the Doc wears trousers.
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@Lemming
Well, I'm thinking that biologically a rat and a human are sort of pretty similar. (See Charles Darwin)

Maybe not so intellectually.

But intellectual humans easily become addicted to heroin.

Not sure that addiction is the same as classical conditioning.

Or we would be able to recondition heroin addicts, and I'm not sure that this is possible.


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@Tarik

Heaven is currently rhubarb crumble and custard.

This is a personally objective fact derived from personally subjective reasoning.

The same principles of reasoning apply to how one arrives at a moral judgement.

And happiness is a brief moment of electro-chemical profundity.

Contentment is what we should aim to achieve.

And if that necessitates a belief in an afterlife.....That's absolutely fine.
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@Best.Korea
You obviously feel your age then?
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@FLRW
Nice.
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@oromagi
What happened with the Court Case?

It's all gone very quiet over here.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Whoops!

Was that some blokes willy nilly

Orrrrrrrrrrrrrr?

I assume you mean a little willy nilly

Careful Deb.

Careless words cost reputations.

Don't want you labelled a MONSTER.


Or is Willy Nilly a metaphor for Transman.

Nope, I mean Transwoman

I think.

I'm as confused as they are.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Not sure all that paint is good for the long term wellbeing of the slave.

Especially the fair skinned Finns that you seem to have a penchant for.


My perfect slave?

Well: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, oooooooooooooooh.

Just realised that one can get all the satisfaction one needs from a well oiled slave just by dreaming about it (gender neutral).

A lot less hassle in the long run perhaps.

And I quite enjoy cooking my own dinner.


And Mrs Zed might get suspicious when she sees all that baby oil disappearing in to the shed and hears all the ensuing commotion.

And Mrs Zed is also a good cook.


Good day Bruce.
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@Kaitlyn
In the U.K.

Pants is pants

And trousers is trousers.

We tend to avoid zips in pants for technical reasons.

Previously, men wore pants and women wore something more fascinating.

Though these days all the mystery has gone.

Equality and neutrality and all that stuff.

Theypants as it is.

I've seen pictures of Miley Cyrus wearing her dad's old pants.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
I would splash out on the more expensive type and massage them with baby oil, rather than paint them.

After they had cooked my dinner.
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@Lemming
Hmmmm.

Perhaps that just tells us about the addictive quality of heroin and how it affects grey matter.
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@FLRW
Scully.

Thinking man's crumpet.
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@Best.Korea
You youngsters sould should be able to mass debate at least ten times a day.
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@ebuc
Hi Ebuc.

I've no doubt said this before.


Time is that which allows an event to have duration

Space is that which allows an event to occur.

Matter is that which requires events with duration.


And I prefer jam doughnuts to ring doughnuts.

So thank GOD for giving us the time and space to cook doughnuts.


GOD principle, rather than a floaty about Middle Eastern Bloke.
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@Lemming
The needs of survival.

Dictated by the sub-conscious or inherited information.

So for example, without thinking we know that we are hungry or thirsty or cold or need to procreate.

One cannot turn these bodily signals on and off at will.

We can  ignore them, but they never go away.
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@Kaitlyn
I.I.B.
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@b9_ntt
Isn't that a dessert of meringue and cream decorated with either raspberries or strawberries.
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@n8nrgim
I've cum already.
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@sadolite
So, you're saying that the truth is worthless?


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@Deb-8-a-bull
@Slainte
Well tri-omni.

Though in my book if your omni then your omni.

And hey Mr Slainte

Deb's a diamond geezer from a land down under.

Where women glow and men plunder.


Or alternatively:

Where they glow and they plunder.

Not wishing to marginalise the marginals, as it were.
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@Kaitlyn
Well, there's poor people and there's also lazy people.

And then there's work and there's putting in the time..

And then there's a pittance compared to unnecessarily high incomes.

And the difference between poor and lazy and rich and lazy doesn't offer the underpaid much incentive.

So make the underachievers work for a reasonable wage even if that means subsidy.

But don't just incentivise laziness.

Seems like common sense to me.


 Notwithstanding how consumer societies encourage people to spend unwisely.

Which I suppose is how such systems work.

So the answer would be to change the system, though I personally think that hierarchy is a social necessity.

Or more correctly the necessity of a successful society.


Or population control.

But that would realistically mean getting rid of expensive old duffers.

But expensive old duffers are also big business and cuddly.


So you somehow have to disincentivise over-breeding underachievers.

Probably with free cash hand outs....D'oh back to square one again.

And who will fight your wars when Kim and Ping invade.



Sorry.

Just rambling on a wet Sunday afternoon.


And let's not overlook the good hard working taxpayer, who was brought up on the principle of an honest days work for an honest days pay.

I think that they are still the beating heart of a reasonable society. (Slushy crap, sorry again).

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@sadolite
How come FLRW gets all the praise?

Me and Sidewalker also offered sound advice.
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