zedvictor4

Thing is.

If you start them soon enough you can make anyone think anything.

Though to be honest, I can only assume that North and South Korea exist....So how on Earth can I accept that anecdotal evidence is proof of anything.

What is Earth by the way.

As I cannot be certain that any of this is real.

What is an average person?

One would assume that the average person copes.

And that the below average are more likely to need social assistance. 

One would further suggest that if the previously average person can no longer cope then they have dropped below average.

Infinite space has infinite potential, is a pretty logical assertion.

Is it possible to create a number that can keep up with infinity?

It's more illogical for Ebuc to assume  that they can calculate the incalculable.

The infinite potential for an infinite number of universes in an infinite space is infinite......This is perfectly logical

I assume that Best.Korea is an assumption.

So barring actual proof of anything, I am left only with assumption.

Therefore I assume everything, including the assumption that I was accused of being assumptive.

As a hypothetically  assumptive processing unit I am happy with this assumed new reality.

Because this means that I can assume that I don't need to pay my energy bills, instead of assuming that I need to.

And any other previously bothersome disturbance to my assumed existence can also be similarly disregarded.

And when I assume that the Bailiff's are knocking at my door demanding that I settle my debts.

I will just assume that they are not there.

Just voices in my head, I assume.

BRILLIANT.

Hey, the toileting discussion has reared it's ugly head again.

So why waste public money.

Let's just shit and piss in the park.

Bring your own tissue.

Or you could just have one building with a wall in the middle, sort of like it is now (See FLRW and Savant)....A daft Idea for sure.

And as  Mr Sadolite suggests.....The Penis Vagina thing would sort itself out.

 

Does a fact require belief?

Do you believe that there will be a female president one day.

I would propose that it's more likely there will be than won't be.

Though given the current state of society, a Transwoman might beat her to it.

Considering the infinite nature of the infinite potential of infinite space, then why would two Universes need to be connected.

Have you ever considered that there might be more than one infinite space.

After all, infinite space is only relative to a Universe with an onboard thinker.

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If two universes expanded for ever in separate states of spatial infinity they would never connect.

Sound.

For sure, proof is only relative to available systems.

Logic is a term applied to system processing......(Perhaps logic does or doesn't occur, rather than does or doesn't exist).

Whether or not logic aptly describes BK's methodology is arguable.

As most things are arguable.

GOD principle sound.

But not necessarily a floaty about Middle Eastern type bloke.

Of course, depending upon which picture book image of JesusGOD you relate to it could also look a bit Scandinavian.

Other ethnic versions are available.

And imagination and delusion are no more or less internal simulations of an unprovable external reality.

Therefore BK cannot prove ExternalGOD.

Nor InternalGOD, because Internal GOD is wholly self contained.

Nope.

That is an assumption, based upon internal electro-chemical activity relative to a previously acquired notion of a GOD.

Good philosophical point.

Though I run with the notion....I think therefore I am.

Maybe we are just quantum simulators, but surely that is indicative of a certain level of existence.

Hey Besty,

People have been attempting to baffle brains with bullshit ever since they came up with the idea of a GOD.

Let's call this one the Bestological Argument.

But just bear in mind that for every Bestological argument there is always  a counter-logical argument.

Man made up GOD, and then wrote a book that cannot prove GOD.......Simple.

Does Best Korea exist?

Why would I be on a side?

I was just reflecting upon the futility of reminiscence.

The terms "Gods Kingdom" and "Communism" are blatantly contradictory.

I also note that you have shifted your position from "I don't care" to a position of "I don't care that much".

And unless you vocalise your prayers, they will only occur internally  as temporary bursts of internal electro chemical activity.

And if someone else should happen to pick up any relative sound waves, then they will process them in much the same fashion.

For sure, we observe one universe and hypothesise reasonably logically.

Doesn't mean that we cannot hypothesise another universe reasonably logically too

After all two logically following one is quite an established concept.

And OK. I don't use Ebuc-speak......But you keep suggesting the concept of infinite space, albeit unoccupied. Though I would  prefer to suggest the unlimited potential of infinite space.

Nonetheless, as your observations are limited by your self imposed one universe limitations, then how can you possibly know that no other universal scenarios are playing out elsewhere.

Let's simply refer to the two ideas, as the potentially occupied infinite space hypothesis and  the unoccupied infinite space hypothesis.

After all, given the potential of infinity, then this universe takes up no room at all, and observation is impossible.

Just because we cannot observe another inhabited planet within this universe, that doesn't mean that there is not potentially another inhabited planet in this largely unobservable universe.

I would finally suggest that we actually observe very little and speculate rather a lot.

The other day you were caring about communism.

Had you forgotten?

Surely there is a link between crime rates, and an imperfect society.

And most certainly in the kitchen.

And also doing everything else that Mr Lazy won't do.

Just another GOD argument.

Though "Atheism" is simply a conceptual label applied to a sequenced output of data relative to Deism concepts.

Concepts exist as internal electro-chemical reactions to stimuli.

As for belief, one can believe or not believe anything one so chooses.

Belief neither proves nor disproves.

Makes perfect sense.

The Planet Earth dictionary defines a universe.

Another dictionary on another planet in another universe would probably do the same.

Infinite space, infinite potential.

A simple, simple idea.....I find it odd that you are not able to grasp it.

No reason why infinite space that cannot be observed is necessarily unoccupied. 

Unoccupied infinite space is but one hypothesis.

So yesterday was.

Now is and then the future.

What if yesterday.

When and where did they attack you.

In the shopping Mall perhaps.

I cycled across the USA a few years back and never met an unfriendly person of any colour.

I think that you will actually find that most people are respectful of most people.

But for sure, there will always be those who insist on being antagonistic....." White" and "Black".

And a few that insist on being aggressive......"White" and "Black".

And their antagonism is greatly assisted by social media.

And their aggression is underpinned by their conditioning.....As is your desire for  Planet Monotone.....And your fear of perceivable differences.....And your fear of change.

Universe in a human dictionary is named for a specific universe, namely this one.

From the Latin Universum.

For sure, neither the old Latin nor the current dictionary are rocket science.

So why, in infinite space shouldn't there be another universe in another dictionary.

As we seem to agree that infinite space has infinite potential.

And then there were cops.

Legal is as legal does.

Legal has nothing to do with the evolution of the human binary species.

So who is attacking you?

See above #99. #101.

"Observed time is finite".

So what about unobserved time.

Ditto. #99

"If finite space were to expand".

So how would you know that there is only one universe in an infinite space. 

"Space is infinite". #99

Probably a Rangers Fan.

If you ask the right people the right question they will say the right answer.

Nonetheless, more than half the "Blacks" polled gave the wrong answer.

If you had polled the appropriate "White" audience, the results would probably be similar.

Bearing in mind that black and white doesn't actually mean black and white, but rather but a recognition of dissimilarity based upon geographical origin, ethnicity and perpetuated historical grievancies.

Also bearing in mind that you and your cronies perpetuate racial antagonism, just as much as your "Black" counterparts do.

Nutter:  A thug with a propensity for the headbutt. Often associated with Glasgow, Scotland......See Glasgow Kiss.

Egg producing half of the human binary system.

Everything else is bollocks.....HaHaHaHa.

And legality is as legality does.

How?

How do you know who is right and who is wrong.

All that the 2nd amendment does is allow people to bear arms, which doesn't mean to say that those people will necessarily be good people.

The people that you assume to be bad people, might actually be the good people. 

Holocaust isn't fantasy, with Hollywood dictating the rules.

Why do time and space need to be observed.

As far as we are able to know, time and space have been unobserved for most of the time.

And if a universe has finite potential....Then what?

Do all universes have the same potential?

For sure, time and space are infinitely possible.

Overfed Republicans.

Or the 2nd amendment could quite easily lead to another holocaust.

Remove the dogma, and one group of armed people with an idea is no different to another group of armed people with an idea.

Nonetheless, "normal" people have a tendency to be selectively moral when it comes to respect for other life.

Well as ever, even the word solipsism has more than one application.

But I assume you are referring to the philosophical theory.

Cogito ergo sum as Rene said.

But, I sense and I think, so therefore I can only think that you are.

Not that I do not apply more certainty than uncertainty to the thought.

Though, as everything that we sense is converted to an internal simulation, we can only assume that our simulation is an accurate representation of an externality

So as such, I have a solipsist tendency tinged with a reasonably assured reasonably accurate sense of connectivity to something else.

I would suggest that by the time a human being gets to college, they are already coddled.

Acquired misinformation or  mal-information or inappropriate information, is learned between the ages of zero and college.

Latter day responses to the brutality of independence are already predetermined.

In my opinion.

From a tourists information perspective.

Certain areas of New York are usually safe.

Certain areas of New York are generally not safe.

And certain areas of New York that are usually safe, are not safe after dark.

Same as most big cities I suppose.

Whereas Stephen might envisage,

Two old Coppers musing, late evening,

In a quiet country gateway,

Thermos tea and cheese and pickle in hand,

Hoping.....That nothing kicks off.

Radio crackles,

Control to ZedVictor 4.

Bollocks.

Do you regard yourself as a cleansing superhero.

Only joking, no offence,

But  encouraged by word association,

I immediately had a mental image,

Of Saniton in a Superman costume.

Belief is an aptly defined nonsense in itself.

So we construct an indisputable construct,

And no one can dispute it.

Notwithstanding that the indisputable construct is only what it is.

But all that we can do is either believe it or not.

Whereas my mental image of  Stephen

Inspired by word association

Is a snowy Christmas wonderland

Woolly jumpers, Christmas pud and festive cheer.

Winter festival indeed.

Yep, forced communism is not communism.

And is also not sharing.

As I stated, true communism doesn't work, because people are not equal.

You cannot force physiological equality and therefore social equality, because inequality is inherent.

Forcing people is authoritarianism, rather than communism.

You have already implied a two tier system  of social control.

Which will inevitably lead to a multi-tiered system.

The Lawmakers. (Incorporating it's own hierarchical system)

The Administrators. (Incorporating it's own hierarchical system)

The Law enforcers. (Incorporating it's own hierarchical system)

The Workforce. (Incorporating it's own hierarchical system)

Communism is the philosophical daydream of philosophical daydreamers.

Social systems are all essentially the same.

Just more or less brutal.

One would suggest that coddling a mind, as in formatively conditioning the human computer to instruct the whole to achieve certain things in life, is the basis of both inspirational parenting and human evolution.

So are you perhaps suggesting that American society has reached a point of negative over-coddling

Relative to what?.......Perhaps current  sexual trends is what you are driving at.

Exactly.

I would suggest that together we have exemplified the necessary ambiguity of belief and the necessary ambiguity built into it's definition.

Which consequently defines how we do or do not or may or may not relate internal data analysis to external possibilities.

Subjective reasoning as it were.

My understanding of the concept, is that everything has balanced effects and properties.

Rather than specific things having specific opposites.

Though one could say water or no water, which is effectively wet and dry or flood and drought.

Nonetheless, isn't the basis of the concept just an awareness that EVERYTING is balanced unless unbalanced.

So pure H2O is balanced, and therefore can be unbalanced.

And therefore the human mass is also balanced unless unbalanced....With specific regard to the use of drugs such as nicotine and psilocybin.

My understanding of karma is not the same....Karma implies universal consequences rather than universal harmony.

Which is not to say that there are not consequences to both harmony and disharmony. 

True.

Living for ever  as an organic structure would be reliant upon stopping the aging and deterioration clock sooner rather than later.

Maybe we will be able download consciousness and our individual intellect and personality to an alternative medium.

After all, physical experience is only an internal simulation of a physical experience.

So we would only need to simulate an external experience in order to be able to consciously experience and  re-simulate it.

What are your views on Yin and Yang.

For every effect the is a necessary opposite effect.

With regard to the positive/negative properties of nicotine and psilocybin, and how they relate or react to/with the positive/negative properties of the human condition.

Yep, I did say that belief is necessarily an ambiguously defined word.

Nonetheless, I would say that thinking old chairs are more likely to break than newer chairs is not a belief. But an assumed though not necessarily accurate probability based upon experience.

The necessary ambiguity of belief allows the thinker to assume without any factual input or knowledge.

A prime example being, an existent GOD.

I personally do not believe anything.

I either know, or make correct or incorrect assumptions based upon experience.

For example:

If I regularly use the No10 bus every day to get to work, then based upon experience I assume that the No10 bus will come today. 

This is not a belief, just an expectation.

If I just stood at the side of a road and believed a bus to turn up, this would be foolish.

I would also suggest that all experience, understanding and outcomes, including belief and fact, require subjective processing.

Therefore objectivity is arrived at, but is reliant upon subjective processing.