zedvictor4

You think that I deny.

And I think that you deny.

Though as long as we are both content with our comparative denials, then all is well.

And any ongoing or residual energy afforded by our component parts, can be referred to as a soul if you like. I've no problem with that.

Well, an obvious example would be the generation of electricity and the development of technology from there on in.

Though prior to that, utilising scientific methodology a whole raft of new understanding had been developed.

Metallurgy and engineering, physiology and medicine, astronomy........The list is near endless.]

Which is not to suggest that material development is something new. It's basically what we call evolution, which includes the development of us, and our role in the further exponential development of matter.

And yet some people are still prepared to accept that a mystery being, a pregnant woman, a baby and a stable are the be all and end all of everything.

Without the slightest need for a bit of up to date re-evaluation.

As far as I know there's no such thing as artificial/alternative intelligence yet.

Just increasingly more sophisticated data handling devices.

It won't be long though, when you consider the exponential development of technology.

300 million years and we discover electricity generation, 200 years and we're already on the verge of real A.I.

Human redundancy, the human comedy show for the fascination and amusement of a device somewhere.

Endlessly squabbling blobs of organic matter, arguing the toss over fantastic deities or bits of a planetary surface.

I'm bilingual.

Nope, I said bilingual.

I'm looking out for you Deb.

The kettles on.

That's the trouble.

If you're a dyed in the wool Conservative Republican, you'll have to vote for whosoever's name ends up on the ballot paper.

But hey, conservatism is as conservatism does.

How conservative do you want things?

If it's simply all about the contentiously contradictory pro-guns, pro-life and anti-choice stuff then Ron's perhaps your man.

Though as I see it, a President should be the global representative of all Americans, rather than someone who dictates a one sided domestic agenda.

So we're good for a year or two yet?

Though the U.S. is bombing Syria again now....All a part of the strategic game I suppose.

How we evaluate data relative to developed understanding.

We simply know more now than we did then.

So gaps in our understanding of material processes, are no longer filled with often fantastical hypotheses.

Which is not to say that there are still no gaps.

Nope.

In terms of data processing, one can only frustrate oneself.

And I suppose that we are both the epitome of a point of view.

And wherein do you imagine lies my instability.

Hmmmmm, this paragraph just seemed like another series of frustrated digs to me Trade.

Let's just be content to disagree about the GOD concept.

I would suggest that satisfaction comes from contentment, and further suggest that contentment is one of the benefits getting older. More to do with natural physiology than conscious data management. Though there is a balance to be made, not overburdening the brain, whilst also keeping it active.

Well, the Cock.

Because he's sexually mature in less than a year.

You did mean "cum"?

I was brought up on tractors.

In Worcestershire.

Left for Wales though.

As you know.

Too true.

I.I.B.

Hey.

Is that you and your favourite Cock.

I can't read.

And I can't write.

But that don't really matter,

Cus I lives in Worcestershire.

And I can drive a tractor.

I think you were winging it there.

Did you men Bannockburn.

And I'm just not sure if there are enough sensible people in the World to sort things out.

Though what that really means, I don't know.

@Malcharaz.

One cannot mock that which is not known to exist.

And scripture is written stuff for sure, so undeniable. Though content is certainly open to debate.

And if your definition of trolling is a difference of opinion expressed, then you've certainly come to the wrong place.

Though, as ever:

GOD principle sound.

Floaty about magical men not so.

So, let's start at the beginning again.

Where actually is this guy?

Then,  if we've established his location we can fast forwards several billion years and discuss some texts a group of Middle Eastern/Mediterranean type blokes put together a couple of thousand years ago.

We can even ignore  all the stuff that went on in between if you like.

Stuff like the gradual agglomeration of matter and the formation of the physical Universe.

And species decline and species development.

The sort of stuff that scripture guys didn't know about.

Culture evolves as people and technology dictate.

Ireland is still a great place to visit.

Pity the ferries are so costly, or I would visit more often.

Nationalist dickheads dwell in the darkest recesses of all societies.

Over here in Wales, they still harp on about reservoirs.

And spit and growl in the old tongue, that virtually no one else understands, save for a few people in the Argentinian backwoods.

That's a progressive world culture for you.

And the English have got Sam Smith.....Doh.

I'm British by the way, of Earthling heritage.

Top of the morning Doc.

Technology is the way forwards in all aspects of social and material evolution.

We're in a transitional phase, between human Intelligence and alternative intelligence.....Probably always were.

1. Still thrashing about searching our imaginations for the unknowable answer.

2. Occasionally sitting down and going ohmmmmmmmm, hoping that the answer will effortlessly appear.

3. In between times, continuously glued to our personal devices looking for something to distract us from the effort of existence.

4. Eat, drink, s**t, p*ss, alleviate procreational urges, roll over go to sleep and dream. Until tomorrow.

5. Death......Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....Solution found.

2. Yep.

Well, come on.

One step across the imaginary line in the desert and your in Egypt.

It's not plagiarism is it.

It's simply transferred shared and modified  ideas.

And then ship it to Rome, and Bob's your Uncle.

And send it on a Camel to Mecca, and Fanny's your Aunty.

No place for the Alfa Guy in the woke world.

And yet, take a look at Social Media and it is awash with babes getting their tits and arses out for money.

What a crazy mixed up species of mad sociopaths we are.

Timeline and location inextricably link them.

Get real.

It's not as if the "Holy Land" was surrounded by an impenetrable force field until J came along.

What will I care?

I firmly believe that I had the fortune and pleasure of existing in the best of times. (1960's)

Though does everyone say this?

Everything human, seems to be going tits up now.

All hail A.I.

It's fiction.

Anything is permissible in Fictionland.

Bound to happen.

It's where the s**t was inevitably going to stick.

So who are the original British?

Some might say the Celts, but they are considered to be of Eurasian origin.

And there have been a succession of invaders and immigrants since then.

The Romans a came before the English/Angles, though the Roman invaders were a mish mash of people from all across Europe and North Africa anyway.

And somewhere in between, there were the Nordic Vikings.

Oh! And the Saxons and Normans.

Who have I forgot Stephen?

British, really is whosoever is there at the time of asking.

Not sure if the Neanderthals made it here.

Same for the little country of the UK.

Though my kids don't see it as I see it....And so on.

And I'll be dead in 20 years or so (or less).  

And, who will be British then.

Well, the British I suppose, though they will not look quite the same as the did 60 years ago.

Worrying about, is like pissing in the wind. (I love that expression).

Mine's a nice cool pint of IPA thank you.

And the Missus will have a half of Guinness.

Regards Zed.

Hey. 

Sleazy Orange Guy walks around with a target on his chest.

What the f**k do you expect.

LOL.

Well, the current basis of theism is ignoring 21st century knowledge and logic, in favour of 1st century hand me down tales.

Which all boils down to formative conditioning.

Teach your kids nonsense, and the will grow up believing in nonsense.

Such is how the brain functions.

Though to be fair, some data bases are more modifiable that others. Though this might depend upon the intensity of conditioning.

Regards. Zed.

Some philosophy is good.

And some philosophy is not so good....The ramblings of the bourgeois hypocrite Mr Marx spring to mind.

Yep, the guy has got crossed lines somewhere.

The clue should be in the name...."DebateArt".

@Malcharaz

Evil is a concept, often used over-dramatically for emotional effect.

Do you know what post natal means?

So, in all instances the taking of a human life is unjustifiable?

And I take it then, that you are an absolute pacifist, with no real guns in your cupboard.

If so, good and admirable.

If not, selectively moral like everyone else.

Save for the cave dwelling hermit who absorbs all their nutrient requirements from the atmosphere.

Wilfully ignorant of what?

We are both wilfully content with our own assessment of relevant and available information.

And there's is currently nothing new that will encourage me/us to alter my/our view points.

Because I'm certain that both you and I are ignorant of the real answer to everything. We have no choice in the matter.

"Wilfully ignorant". Is just a frustrated dig.

No more that one expects.

And we've been spicing up meat and vegetables ever since we put meat and vegetables together in the same pot.

Not necessarily meaninglessly, but sometimes too absurdly spicy for me.

If you like.

Though I never mentioned the BBC.

I watch very little TV, and never watch News on TV.

And for sure, news is propaganda, always was always will be.

Just look at all the nonsense that gets posted online.

HaHa.

Freudian slip maybe.

Yep, it's mind games when all is said and done.

And science is science, and science will inevitably result in failed hypotheses. It's the nature of the exercise.

Though ignoring positive scientific outcomes, is all a part of the mind game too.

And what was it?

Oh yes.

Might as well say that truth is not a banana.

I am British and I do know that.

And for sure, we can create interchangeable words and meanings to fit variable situations.

So how about a response.

As I stated previously, I'm not certain if truth and fact are synonymous.

An obvious example would be:

A. It's a fact that for Christians, that their God is the creator of the Universe

B. It's a fact that, how the Universe was created is unknown.

So does B, make A. any less a fact, and any less true.

Futher to that then:

Is A. Objective or subjective?

And given that both conclusions were a product of the same process:

Is B. Objective or subjective?

A truthful repetition of inaccurate data, is not necessarily an untruth.

Delicately and with the tongue.

Technically known as Cunniligual Abortive Therapy.

Or CAT.

The duration of pregnancy is generally nine months.

Not nine seconds, or nine days or nine weeks.

So some people conclude that the ethicality of abortion varies relative to the duration of time and the subsequent development of the viable mass.

So, if I was to ask you:

Irrespective of lawful conduct, are all instances of terminating a viable post natal human mass, bad.

What would your opinion be?

Well, let's kick off by saying that the dog leg tail thing is a frivolous bit of nonsense.

Because functionality trumps deception.

Doesn't matter if all  doggy appendages are referred to as bananas.

As for conspiracy theory:

I always ask the same questions.

Why?

What's the point of millions of people conspiring to deceive millions of other people?

So if human actions dramatically change environment, this will inevitably affect climate.

Environment and climate are not two completely separate phenomena that occur simultaneously without one affecting the other.

Though some guy with a college degree, is perhaps more likely to know than I am.

I don't do education envy.

And we, the vaccine fools are all supposed to be genetically modified vaccine zombies according to the conspiracy theists.

Still time I suppose.

Still time to catch Covid.

You choose.

And I fully support the right of the individual to choose.

Which somehow brings us to the subject of abortion.

Would be a statement or principle that is not necessarily always considered to be true.

Existence is a fact........I think.

And time.

Well, we can take a word, a concept, and modify them accordingly.

So, time can still be a constant and also relative to our point of reference.

Or our point of reference relative to the inevitability/constant of time.

We can also similarly, propose the same of space.

Such is freedom of thought.

One doesn't have to be buggered by Albert Einstein.

Ha Ha.

It's a circular argument.

Is truth subjective or objective.

Again, I would propose that the nature of the process dictates that everything is subjective.

And therefore, open to interpretation.

Which is probably what you were saying.

Have a nice day.

Video not available in the UK.

Well,  the influence of genetics is unavoidable in all aspects of human physical and social development.

And as people spread out from the cradle of humanity so they modified genetically.

Nonetheless, if a very dark toned person, born and raised in Central Africa, could meet there alter ego who was born and raised in Scotland, there would be similarities in the physicality of their vocal production, but very contrasting differences in accent, intonation, pronunciation, inflection etc.

But of course, they would look the same.

So, two simple conclusions:

1. Some aspects of an individuals persona, are inherited.

2. Some factors of an individuals persona, are learned by association.

#9

You might just as well have said, it is scientifically proven that an Orange is a Lemon because it is an Orange.

True in a way.

I am content. 

Atheism isn't a necessary factor of my contentment, and obviously, nor is theism.

Though I can understand why some peoples lives require a metaphysical prop.

Happiness though?

Happiness is another discussion.

In an average day, and how often does one experience happiness?

Happiness is nice, but perversely the achievement of happiness can also come loaded with stress.

A contented life is much less stressful.

In my opinion.

For sure.

Skipperku.

A verse of variable length and composition.

Conveying a state of awareness.

AKA Zedku.