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Eventually the Trans and Feminist movements will clash... Who will the right-wing join?
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@Stephen
Tits up.

The bigger the better it would seem.


And to be fair to the sapphic brigade.

Would you want to date a transsexual?

All that emotional baggage.


Might as well date the real thing.

After all, lesbianism is specifically  lesbianism, not pseudo lesbianism.

Completely different taste.

It would be like ordering a cucumber sandwich, only to find a banana between the bread.


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@sadolite
Well. 

Crude oil was first discovered and utilised approximately 2600 years ago.

(Though the effects of natural phenomena related to crude oil may have been witnessed long before that.)

Suffice it to say though, that the human race survived for 200000  - 300000 years without the benefits of burning and refining crude oil.

So I expect that when all natural resources have dried up, we will have come up with other coping strategies.

I think that we are already pretty good at refining oils and other hydrocarbons from plant material.


As for science, well science is probably wrong nine times out of ten, which believe it or not is the nature of the exercise.

Good old trial and error as it were.



N.B.

Nine times out of ten was simply a figure of speech, and in no way meant to be statistically accurate.


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Spiritual Logicism
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@PREZ-HILTON
One cannot believe that truth is true without casting doubt.

Which is not to say that one cannot believe that truth is true.

One can believe anything, wherein truth is unknowable and doubt is therefore built into the equation.
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@Stephen
Damn the eloquence of the man.
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Goodbye DART
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@RationalMadman
Ta ta.
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Sports
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@Dr.Franklin
Hi Doc. 

Something's rattled your cage.

Men with balls and Women with balls and achieving top spot.

Sort of sums up the sporting analogy/analogies.

What was it RM said about big thick black people and slender little Asians.

I think that they've been watching too much porn


Top of the morning to ya.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Tranny porn supports an industry that supports it's staff that provides for the needs of it's customer base.

Such is capitalism and the American dream.

That and guns.
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@sadolite
There's science and then there's science fiction.

Hollywood deals with science fiction.

And scientists deal with science.

To ignore science is to bury one's head in the sand.

And also to discredit everything humans have ever achieved.

Things like the refinement of crude oil and the internal combustion engine.

The other thing is, you and I were born at a time when such luxuries were just unquestionably there to have.

And now the tough question is, for how much longer can we just have it.

Scientists have come up with an alternative for us.

It's going to cost though.
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What abortion basically comes down to.
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@hey-yo
Well stated.

I like the fact that you don't just argue the toss with the same old emotive rhetoric.

And for sure, we can compartmentalise anything and make a special case for it.

Therefore all killing is the same but different.


I personally cannot differentiate between the life within a tomato and the life within a zygote. (Rather than the life of a tomato or zygote).

Can you actually pinpoint the essence of life, and then say that the life within structure A. is completely different to that within structure B.


If not then the whole abortion argument, really just boils down to the interpretation of concepts.

Morality, and  Law for example.

And often tinged with more than a smattering of religion.


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March Madness
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@FLRW
Me too.

12.96.
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Spiritual Logicism
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@Math_Enthusiast
Define the truth premise a little more clearly, so that it can be better appreciated by your audience.


Are you comparing truth with reality.

If so...Reality according to what?

Internal data processing, or immediate internally processed appreciations of external stimuli.

In both cases, simulated truths or realities.

Or perhaps just simulations


Math just converts to numbers.

But for the most part we have to convert back again to an understandable narrative or image.

Perhaps this is where A.I. will have the edge. (Alternative Intelligence)

What do you think?
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What abortion basically comes down to.
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@hey-yo
Let me put it another way.

How many anti-abortionists  have an absolute commitment to the sanctity of human life, whereby there are no circumstances that justify the taking of another life.
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TRANSEXUAL PASTOR COMPARES CHILD MURDERER TO JESUS.
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@oromagi
The human computer handles data relative to variable instruction, resulting in variable output.

So religiousness is typically a variation on an atheist theme, or vice versa.

Hence, when the religious and the non-religious  indulge in discourse, the resulting transaction is typically not about pneumatic tyres and bananas.
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the universe most likely didn't cause itself
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@n8nrgim
Trouble is.

Even ongoing recurrences of material development and decline have to start somewhere, don't they?
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What abortion basically comes down to.
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@hey-yo
The real issue is a living organism that is included in our species.
Selective morality for sure.


And quite often even within this narrow band of distinction, selective moralists are also prepared to make exceptions to the rule.

Is your regard for human life, total and without exception?
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Discussion over infant baptism v other forms of baptism
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@hey-yo
True.

What is a rhing by the way?
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Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
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@Deb-8-a-bull
I learned not believing in, from Dad.

Accepting that something is true without any real proof, is a bit daft.

So there are quite a lot of daft people.

But as long as they are reasonably daft we're OK.

It's the unreasonably daft that one needs to steer clear of.

Sort of, don't go trekking in Afghanistan.
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The problem I have with Jesus
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@PREZ-HILTON
Hey, you're becoming more of a realist. (Whatever that might mean)

Though I would suggest that the development of the name, probably tells us something about the development of the global story and it's association with social ideology, wealth and power.


A Just GOD.

Says who?

Some Latin geezer I suppose.
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Why I will not be boycotting budlight
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@PREZ-HILTON
A nice cool bottle of Sunlander IPA.

Perhaps wouldn't benefit from salty jizz notes.

Though I suppose we shouldn't knock it until we've tried it.
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The problem I have with Jesus
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@PREZ-HILTON
Well, there is a strong chance that there was an actual Jesus type bloke.

Though probably not named Jesus in the first instance.


As for the sin thing.

Well, doesn't make a lot of sense.

Not sure that it ever did.

Makes no sense really.


And now it's 2023, and all about Buns and Choccy Eggs.

Sort of a pagan revival.

Putting a positive spin back on sex and fertility, rather than the old repressed negative sin stuff.

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Why I will not be boycotting budlight
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@Elliott
Yep. Best left to the lads next door.
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Discussion over infant baptism v other forms of baptism
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@Skipper_Sr
Baptism is a human water thing.

Some people like to swim in sub-zero conditions.

Go for it I say.

If it makes you feel good, then it probably does.

To understand it in full, one would  need to have a good knowledge of brain processes.
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Benefits of Christian religion vs. Benefits of atheism
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@Deb-8-a-bull
It's the one at the end of the rack that prevents all the rest from leaning over.


And he said unto them:

Henceforth

All the people of the World shall have Hot Crossed Buns.

And they saw the Buns 

And they were good.
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Why I will not be boycotting budlight
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@Elliott
Kronenbourg and Stella.

Perfect for washing down jizz.

I would imagine.




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Why I will not be boycotting budlight
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@PREZ-HILTON
Shitty beer.

You won't be missing out.
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Spiritual Logicism
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@Math_Enthusiast
Hmmmmm.

Everything is internal,

Externality is an assumption converted from incoming signalling.

Spirituality is a notable reaction to a specific stimuli.

Logic is how data is ordered.

And truth is determined by the self,

Or externally, truth is an indeterminate factor of what we assume.

Nonetheless, perhaps an actual human being will one day visit Mars.

Just as a few have visited the Moon, I think.

Such is the nature of what we might conclude to be reality.
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A Perspective on the Violence in Nashville
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@Savant
Something that is probably true, therefore might not be.

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What abortion basically comes down to.
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@Savant
Not really.

Pro-choice and anti-abortion, both differentiate between something relative to conditioning systems.

The status and importance of living matter.

Science just attempts to make sense of processes.


Realistically, we are all selectively moral, so the unscientific fact is that most anti-abortionists have a tendency to be hypocritical.


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Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
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@Athias


Just like everything is gleaned from what goes before.

If we could glean the future, now wouldn't that be amazing.



And for sure, no chocolate eggs for me.


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@sadolite
For sure.

But we develop needs to match technology.

Prior to the introduction of personal devices, you didn't have a need for them.

Prior to the introduction of the internal combustion engine, people didn't have a need for it.



Material evolution,

One either keeps up with it, or one doesn't.


Enjoy you weekend.


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The Deceit of Christians and Biblical Words.
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@ludofl3x
Not sure if J spoke English.

His Dad spoke something called tongues. Which I suppose was sort of slurpy and spitty.

A bit like Welsh.


Happy Chocolate Egg Weekend.
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March Madness
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@FLRW
Men love playing with their balls this time of year.


Happy chocolate Egg Weekend.
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@sadolite
Do you have a smartphone.

Did anyone ask you if it would be a good idea to develop them, and to install all the infrastructure it takes to make them work.

Did you complain.

What about spending on high tech defence equipment.

Anyone consult you?

Did you complain.


Stuff happens, we move on, the future of personal transport in the short term will be a transition from the internal combustion engine to electric.


Though:

More and more humans demanding more and more electricity.

The next problem is already here really, before we even get there.


So, the most cost effective way of keeping the lights on Mr S?

Nuclear......Huge public investment .

Will you complain?
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What abortion basically comes down to.
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@Best.Korea
Well, flashing my butt at old ladies would be rude.
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Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
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@Tradesecret
Not sure that Christians never did exploit others for their personal pockets.

Sort of how the system worked/works.

And how  Christian Churches accrued/accrue their wealth.



And, the concept of resurrection wasn't thought up nor monopolised by a bunch of Middle Easterners.

I think that people had noticed that things died and reappeared, long before J supposedly did.

Christian were definitely the plagiarisers  in this instance.


Which therefore tells us that the Christian message was nothing new.

Different wrapping maybe,

Same old chocolate.


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@sadolite
Do you ever consider the future, in respect of those who will exist in the future.

Material evolution is an ongoing principle and therefore we are always transitioning from one idea to another.

Older brains like yours and mine try to keep apace with new stuff, but we were  weighed down by our formative expectations decades ago.


Governments do what governments need to do in response to what needs to be done relative to now and the future.

And stuff costs stuff, it's the nature of the system.

We've been subsidising infrastructure and social expectation for as long as infrastructure and social expectations have been deemed to be social necessities.

So what good are any vehicles without roads to drive them on.


Happy Chocolate Egg Weekend Sadolite.
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Material and Spiritual
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@Math_Enthusiast
Universe is,

I think.

And we are,

An agglomeration of,

Universal dots.

I suppose.


Happy Chocolate Egg Weekend.
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Abortion is Human Sacrifice by Definition
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@YouFound_Lxam
Abortion is human sacrifice.

By definition,

That might be considered a truism.

In so much as the inclusive scenario is driven solely by human social expectation.


You will find that ideas and expectations vary considerably though.


Happy Chocolate Egg Weekend Y.F.L



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What abortion basically comes down to.
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@Best.Korea
The basic principle is, that the death of the living sustains the living until death.

And everything living takes it's place within that system.

And humans have evolved to think that they are more important than anything else,

Which in terms of material evolution might be true.

And Best Korea loves and hates in equal proportions, shining as a beacon of human moral ambiguity.


Happy Chocolate Egg Weekend B.K.





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Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
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@Athias
Which came first the Pagan or the Christian?

And so surprise surprise J became a symbol of resurrection.

And now we have consumerism, rebranding Easter and selling us a different message.

Happy Chocolate Egg Weekend Athias.




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Is it okay to bless the water before drinking it?
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@Stephen
Yep.

Synonyms.




Happy Chocolate Egg weekend Stephen.
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Transgenderism is a mental illness.
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@YouFound_Lxam
All mentality is ordered in some way.

Even that of  Donald Trump and his supporters.

it's just that some are slightly dafter than others.
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Is it okay to bless the water before drinking it?
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@Deb-8-a-bull
That's the thing with holy stuff Deb.

You only need to think it's there.

So testing will reveal nothing.

Who knows what pervy priests add to the bottle.

It's what is known as anointing.
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Objjective morality?
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@Sidewalker
I have 4 bunches of bananas.

In one bunch there are 5 bananas

In another 6

In another 4

In another 3

So 2 + 2 might equal  18, or 4 or 9 + 9, or 10 + 8, or 11 + 7.

Therefore 2 + 2 does not necessarily equal 4.

Such are the possibilities of internal data processing/ subjectivity.

Objectivity is also an internal assumption.
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Why is Good Friday called Good Friday?
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@Tradesecret
It's good because there are only two days to go until Chocolate Egg Day.

It's a bank holiday, so a chance to chill out, fire up the barbeque (weather permitting) and have a few beers with ones friends.

Chocolate Egg weekend has always been a joyous time of year for kiddies and adults alike.


Interestingly, Chocolate Egg Day varies from year to year. 

Probably all to do with the chocolate harvest.
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What abortion basically comes down to.
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@Best.Korea
And therefore we are justified in executing Best Korea, if they execute a woman who chooses to abort zygotal tissue.
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@Best.Korea
How  many labelled Christians have ever read the bible?

And the desire to reproduce is a gift from GOD.
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How to read the Bible - Guide for beginners
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@Tradesecret
But what doesn't exist, can be created internally. For sure.
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@Best.Korea
There you go again.

What is a Christian Rank?

A Christian is anyone who cares to take the book seriously and join the Christian club.

Recreational sex is what they do after Church.


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@Best.Korea
A tolerant  Nation comprises an entire population and it's shared ideas. Sweden is therefore secular, but with a larger proportion of it's  population choosing to take part in Lutheran practices.

This doesn't necessarily make Sweden a Christian Country.


The USA has a female majority.

So therefore is the USA a Female Country.

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