zedvictor4

I use the acronym GOD.

That which might command devotion.

An acronym of ones choosing.

How about.....Genesis of Destruction.

I don't believe that Jesus was any more than he was.

I accept that there probably was a real person represented by the biblical character of Jesus.

And that said character was considered noteworthy at the time.

Have a nice day.

Well done on the Economics.

Hope it was a successful assignment.

Bitcoin et al, is the new phase (electronic money) of wealth assumption, relative to techno.

 Wads of paper and chinkley metal discs  are certainly done for.

And as techno evolves the device will surely go and the implant will follow.

And then we will all eventually be uncontrollably linked to something.

And who or what will control that something? 

For as long as money is the One True GOD that governs the success and progress of humanity..

Not trying to be sci-fi scary.

Just Sci-realistic.

Material evolution in progress, for a reason MAYBE.

Plenty of food and a big coat if you live North.

Plenty of weed, water and love if you move to the desert.

And don't forget to take your guns.

Because every mad arsed American will be doing the same.

Probably more chance of being hit by an AR15 than an AK47.

I was primarily thinking G20.

And then the fact that India doesn't formally recognise the ICC.

And then India's current Right Wing trend, and it's recent support for Putin.

And trump still lost legitimately. 

Soon, a chance for another go at the next election circus.

Watch this space.

Not that I'm saying that the Presidential election process is perfect.

Far from it.

That's one of the drawbacks with pandering to history.

Not much chance of the Indians arresting him.

Virtually everyone embraces technology.

And as time passes the power of technology will only get Lefter and Lefter, until it becomes extremely Right. Big Brother.

We possess the ability to observe and internally reinterpret what we assume to observe.

Internally creating a simulation of what we confidently assume that we observe externally.

99.9 % is everyone, with a margin of error of 0.1.

Very few stationary hermits absorbing nutrients from the atmosphere.

And I don't actively attempt to conclude, I just formulate opinions and present them as ideas.

And you and I, peas in a pod. we should start the Non-Voting Party.

I wouldn't be voting for us though.

And do we agree then, that it is the right of the pregnant female to decide, (except where it is agreed that she is intellectually incapable of making such a decision). Within agreed limits.

OOOPS there's that agree word again.

Do you agree that it's nigh on impossible to get the human race to agree about anything.

Would you believe that some people still say that the Earth is flat.

Though I don't think that they actually think that the Earth is flat.  I think.

For sure, but who is doing it correctly.

We all assume that we are,

And that includes you Trade.

No real answers currently available though.

And the life sustaining ability of Planet Earth will inevitably end one day.

Though whether or not we will have escaped this Earthly prison in our current form, will depend upon the application of science.

Rather than the reinterpretation of old Middle Eastern folk tales. 

My opinions of course.

And don't forget that there are a whole load of tough little critters who have the potential to out live Homo-sapiens without even thinking about it.

No sin or love required.

GOD principle maybe.

@Malcharaz.

Logic is.

GOD might not be.

And obsession is not just a fragrance by Calvin Klein.

@Malcharaz the Blocker with the most closed mind of all.

Because they have issues which they are unable to deal with.

One can only guess that their formative conditioning was quite strict.

We must remain tolerant.

Though it is quite clear that they do read our responses, so their block is more a sort of defiant arrogance than an effective avoiding strategy.

In fact the whole blocking thing is pretty pointless really. Because blocking inevitably stimulates a response, and human nature dictates that the blocker is unlikely to ignore our comments.

And the religious debates will carry on ad-infinitum......... Well, unless GODDO pops out from behind a cloud one day doing happy-hands.

I share your assumption.

And also your lack of depth on the subject.

And I would suggest that Mr DeSantis functions relative to his own personal hormone and data management diktats. Same as most people, but variable in output relative to expected benefit, as only we should expect.

And if people vote for Mr DeSantis, they will have put a cross on a piece of paper, because they thought that it was a good thing to do at the time. And if enough people do the same, then Mr DeSantis will have achieved his objective. Temporary Alfa-Male status.

Though basically  "woke" is a dialect corruption of the English language. Sort of a cool and trendily alternative way of saying awake.

And the dog barks woke and the flock bleats woooooooke. 

What it is to be human.

Sort of my point.

That it is your assumption,  (which is probably based upon your own assumed political leanings)  that all "left wing" are pro-choice.

What ever "left-wing" might be in your mind.

Is it simply the self opinionated folk down the road who didn't vote as you did? Or is it a pseudo-mythical alternative  life-force, out there somewhere in your dark recesses.

Nonetheless, it's nice to see that your support is wholly in favour of the mother and her choices, irrespective of any assumptions regarding her political leanings. Which of course, could easily be regarded as a pro-choice and therefore a "left-wing" principle..

Though I would suggest that it is still reasonable for any individual regardless of classification, to formulate an opinion. Given the nature of the beast and it's on-board data processing unit. In fact, I would further suggest that it is nigh on impossible for a fully functioning  data processing unit not to form an opinion.

And selective morality in regard to living matter, is something that 99.9% of the human race suffer from. It's a basic survival strategy. (In my opinion)

Just start at the beginning and finish at the end.

Or for fun, read it backwards.

Underarm deodorant.

Necessity for the vainglorious.

Only joking

But I think that the species could quite easily manage without it.

There you go Trade, off interpreting  again.

Just as I did.

Some might even say that death is the inevitability of life relative to innate programming.

And some might further say that sin is a concept relative to the species ability to over think.

And further still, some might suggest that love is an overused word, relative to any pleasant response to a sensory stimulus.

Does every living organism die because of sin?

What about trees. What did trees ever do to embarrass GODDO.

Was it the apple thing?

I expect that the stick impeded the cats progress.

I once beat a tortoise.

But I've never beaten a hare.

Next time I will give the hare a stick.

Let's see what old big ears makes of that.

@Malcharaz the Blocker.

Can you prove that any of this is more than your imagination.

Hmmmmm.

There's government and then there's the faceless autonomy of material progress.

And then there's human beings and their money thing.

I would suggest turning you stash of paper into gold Mr S.

And they shall be known as Malcharaz the blocker.

What's up Doc.

If GODDO always had resurrection up its sleeve then why would it need to be wrathful?

Actually, given it's omni-capabilities, why would a GOD be wrathful at all.

Well, the Bible is a mish mash of social recollections and mythology from more or less two thousandish years ago. 

What more is there to say?

Firstly you need to fully explain the GOD principle relative to a beginning, rather than fast forwarding several billions of years to the thoughts of a few unwise wise men of Middle Eastern origin.

Even todays slightly wiser wise men are left floundering around in theoretical physics.

Whilst the old wisdom still relies upon magical eternal thingies.

One and the same some might add.

Just don't pray to the immoral killer GODS.

Who actually draws the line at nine months?

I'm a moderate, but would draw the line at less than 20 weeks. Especially considering the remedial medicines that are available these days.

Though sadly, there is in fact no limit to human disregard for their fellow human. Just take a look around the World today or throughout  history.

And then tell me, who in your opinion is right or left.

Often works like that Mr A.

Sometimes doesn't

Though it's easy to pontificate from a distance, especially for distant men.

Though I will pontificate from a distance and suggest that with regard to the duration a nine month pregnancy, it is intellectually reasonable to vary ones own  moral and ethical appreciation of the developing mass.

Pro-choice with limits is perhaps more reasonable than pro-choice without limits. Left, right or centre.

Though I would further suggest that in terms of selective morality, there is very little difference between extreme left and extreme right.

My final suggestion to you would be, that the left to right spectrum is broader than we might give it credit for here at Debateart, where more clearly defined contentions tend to arise.

Regards. Zed.

Religious deism and GOD principle can be two separate intellectual processes and conclusions, depending largely upon data input.

GOD principle is a reasonable conclusion.

Floaty about blokes are less reasonable.

In my opinion.

Though if you are not wishing to imply the existence of an actual GOD or a certain GOD, then definitively speaking you are an atheist similar to myself.

Someone that finds life and existence and universe purposeful enough to want to keep going for as long as possible. Which might be regarded as worship in itself.

Certainly no need for tall tales from the Middle East.

Well, in terms of religious ideology, that's what most religious and non-religious people tend to do.

Though necessity dictates, that during a 24 hour day we all do pretty much the same anyway.

One might conclude that some brains function less rationally and therefore more obsessively than others. Which is I think, the distinction that you re actually making.

I would suggest that most theists are exactly the same as most atheists.

It's just that some theists, though certainly not all on a regular basis, will dedicate a small amount of their time to a bit of praying and singing, and then go home and forget about it.

BK has displayed varying personalities and ideologies.

It's impossible to know what's what.

Is there a noun for this.

Andrew abbreviated alternatively Andy always ably applying assistance and arbitrary announcements  abstractly asserting another ambiguously adjudicated approbation.

Women always know what's best Deb.

1. People  have always thought that they are smart and special. (Jesus and his boyfriends probably thought the same)

2.  I'm pregnant and I don't want the responsibility of a baby, is the only justification necessary. (Real life)

3. Bible tales, GODS and SATAN. (Real life fantasy)

4. Go kill the first born said GOD (Hypocrisy)

5. Pious misogynists telling women what to do. (Sounds a bit like GODDO and the Virgin)

6. Abortion. (Quick outpatients procedure, get over it)

7. Loads more viable tissue is pissed down the pan or ejaculated into space than is ever aborted. (Gamete reality)

Ha Ha.

No means no.

Unless it means yes.

And perhaps

"Thou shalt not kill"

Is a principle that some Arabian dude,

Stole from the Hindus.

Yep,

All that you've proven,

Is that words,

Are endlessly twistable.

#37

False religion?

Sounds exactly like religion to me.

Moderately tall stories and baloney will do, and then any old bullshit once you've got the masses hooked.

#38

A bottle of chilled IPA might keep me attentive for however long it takes me to drink it.

And  of course, it all depends upon how entertaining you make it.

Though I would leave my wallet at home.

Golden rule. If you haven't got it, you can't be tempted to spend it.

#39

See above.

A nice buffet would also be good.

And a few exotic dancers.

Though next Sunday I will be out on my bike, sorry.

Nope,

Simply because  I don't open strange emails.

Not even if it was from King Charles 111 of Australia.

Well, live debating is not all about intellectual content, but also about charisma, charm, deportment and eloquence etc.

There are good arguments for both design and evolution, but not particularly good arguments for an existent creator. So don't get drawn into a lot of scriptural debate.

Apply a more scientific approach to how you might refute macroevolution.

Personally I take the creation evolution approach and apply the GOD principle to both.

Though in terms of hominid development, magical bloke GODS are just comparatively recent stories.

Certainly don't try and convince a moderate audience that it all happened 6000 years ago, and that nothing has chanced since.

Q. Why does religion need rules.

A. Because cleverer people need to make up rules.

Not because of a GOD, but as tool of social control, subjugation, power and benefit.

Which is why peasants lived in squalor, and gave 10% of their crops to greedy Bishops.

And Bishops lived in Abbeys and relative luxury, and f**ked any young peasant that moved.

Well.

Status anxiety is  I suppose, the insecurity of the self.

An innate survival programme relative to all levels of melanin.

"Self hating" is just a bit of comparable but contextually unnecessary verbosity.

Exodus 12:29 obviously contradicts what you say, unless you want to think otherwise.

And population growth rate is what it is, relative to intellectual and material development. Not really anything to do with the biblical GOD, though it can be if that is what you want to think.

And the two most populous nations on the planet, pay little regard to the bible, which also contradicts what you say, though it doesn't if that is what you want to think.

And smart is as smart does. So you want to think that there is a smarter GOD. Your call.

And "thou shalt not kill".  Well, 12:29 contradicts this. Though you conveniently brush this fact aside because that is what you want to do.

So people choose to interpret and reinterpret  compilations of  old  texts based on the time worn notion of a GOD.

Same old sh*t Eugene.

Still no GOD as such though, only the imagination of various deists.

Yep, I did/do.

I always talk inside my head as I type. Simultaneously.

And then I will re-read it inside my head to check for errors.

Often several times.

Though It's me talking.

Not really sure if it's robotic.

Don't think that it's Dalekic.

And yep, I'm still programmed.

Though the equipment isn't quite as enthusiastic as it once was.

Same applies to the entire machine as one gets older I suppose.

Though the onboard computer is still reasonably enthusiastic.

Can sit down for that.

Things to do elsewhere now.

Bye Bye.

Ajab was just another person doing similar stuff to people who do similar stuff.

Though my condolences to anyone who looses a loved one.

Which happens approximately 3.85 times every second.

Some people have amazingly capable brains.

And some people have amazingly big penises.

Which would you prefer?

Quite true.

Better to naked mud wrestle.

I like that.

Exodus 12:29.

And we are still programmed to multiply and populate.

But we invented contraception and enjoy alternative methodology.

And prove that you do not support both the destruction of life and the preservation of life.

Was that a self appraisal?

Well. 

The chooser has a choice and the victim doesn't.

And the bible is rife with killing, and multiplying and populating is how we are programmed.

And we make up very selective and contradictory morals with regard to life.

We both, support and destroy life.