zedvictor4

Hopefully for the crew.

Didn't work out for the Moskva though.

So, go gather your buddies and revolt.

Simple.

Though I think you have a somewhat jaundiced view of American society.

Have a nice day.

You seem to forget that the population of the U.S. is 335 million.

And extreme right and left probably account for less than 1%.

And aren't all those millions of lovely guns supposed to protect you from tyranny anyway.

As I stated, it's the moderate core of the population that decides, and not extremists.

And previously they decided to get rid of the crazy Orange guy and give sleepy Joes team a go.

Not to your liking, but as a decent respectful American citizen you will have to grin and bare it.

Hopefully, you are a decent and respectful American citizen?

OK.

 Peer review studies must be taken within the context of how and by whom such studies are commissioned and reviewed.

I expect that in terms of valid studies, there are going to be two opposite but valid camps.

Especially given the contentious nature and ambiguity of the subject in question.

Conservatives and Democrats are all Americans and generally the same.

And hopefully all Conservatives remain democratic.

Just as Democrats, hopefully retain a certain degree of conservatism.

Extremism would be the problem.

And moderation is stability.

The Killing Fields for example, was far more horrific than any horror fantasy.

Real horror lies in the human ability to be truly horrific.

America is full of Europeans already.

I think that the Founding Fathers were mostly European.

So you start the clock today and you are American.

It's all in the DNA though.

Can't take the European out of the European American.

Just like you cant take the human out of the human.

And me.

I'm 63 and post apocalypse doesn't seem worth worrying about.

Inherent functionality does not necessarily imply meaning and purpose.

Within the context of universality, are we meaningful and purposeful? Is there anything to validate such a claim?

Material evolution perhaps. But this is based upon the notion that the Universe and it's processes have meaning and purpose. So what validates this.

Inherent functionality only allows us to consider meaning and purpose within the confines of functionality, and there's usually more than one possibility.

As far as we are able to know, meaning and purpose or not, is currently only generated in one location. Within a temporarily existent organic computer, that may or may not have a greater meaning and purpose beyond it's temporary existence.

Legacy perhaps, but..................................See above.

Ships are big easy targets these days.

I still say the same as ever about homosexuality as I ever did.

It's a recreational response to a procreational urge.

Same as all the newer derivatives.

I personally have never challenged the right of the consenting individual to enjoy bodily function as they so choose.

Though I think that it's fair to say that surgical and medical intervention is a whole different ball game to a bit of man on man fun. 

Pardon the pun.

Sorry, I'm forever striving to be the moderate in the bunch.

And accept both sides of the argument as valid, within the context of human physical and intellectual evolution.

I wasn't  arguing with you.

Tarik blocks me, basically because they cannot cope with my argument.

So whilst I was making a general comment to you about human intellectual processes, I was also indirectly challenging Tarik's obsession with objective morality and justice.

Have a nice day.

Well society as a whole is approximately 8 billion.

And I'm uncertain as to what "understanding" means within this context.

So a lobby group has the access and therefore the ability to spread propaganda via global media to a global audience.

Though I'm still uncertain as to whether this constitutes "understanding", or just a glib awareness of a newly trending sexual derivative.

For sure. 

I'm well aware of the misappropriation of previously defined words.

Or repurposing, depending upon ones point of view.

Though in this case, I'm assuming that the latter, was derived from the former.

Given that we have a alphabet of 26 characters, it's interesting that we rarely come up with wholly new letter sequences.

Preferring to repurpose old stuff.

So for as long as the host body keeps functioning relative to it's ability to generate electro-chemical signalling.

It will inevitably keep coming up with all sorts of new ideas. It's the nature of the beast.

Gender dysphoria is no more or less, new stuff zipping about inside a brain, conflicting with other systemic stuff zipping about inside a brain reminding the host mass that it needs to respond to a procreational message.

And we have now decided that gender dysphoria is exciting and cool.

Well not everyone has come to this conclusion yet.

The same with religion.

Alternative sexuality is the new religion for some.

A Troll is a mythical beast of Scandinavian folklore.

The use of the term "troll" to oppose satirical rhetoric, is oftentimes a cheap, inadequate, lazy or defeatist argument.

Perhaps it's sometimes better to not say anything at all.

Another objectivity jaunt.

Objective is any internally contrived data set.

As is subjective.

Therefore objective is always subjective.

This includes notions of morality and justice.

Therefore, morality and justice are variably contrived and implemented.

Though given the nature of our internal hallucinatory existences, external implementation cannot actually be known to occur. We just assume that it occurs.

So Tarik implements an hallucinatory notion of something internally and nowhere else, and you might perceive a narrative internally and nowhere else.

And vice versa.

Such is the individuality of discussion.

"The Owner"

Very Orwellian.

My compliments to The Owner.

On a job well done.

Equality and fairness for all.

As long as it's on my terms.

Same old.

As demonstrated, you know exactly what I am saying but have no credible way of refuting the argument, other than to cite terminology such as non-sequitur and ad-hominem.

So a magical bloke f**ked a Middle Eastern virgin and sort of created a cloned version himself.

And by the way, this magical bloke created the universe only a few thousand years ago.

It's the creation hypothesis of fantasy.

And something from nothing, for sure it's the big conundrum with no solution.

So, it was a GOD what did it.

Ah, but what did GOD?

We seem to be back to square one again.

Magical floaty about Arabian type, or BIG BOOM, or whatever, all rely upon the something from nothing principle.

Because the old eternal GOD thing, is about as non-sequitur as it gets Trade.

Population rate increases due to medical and surgical intervention.

So physical and mental health issues will obviously increase proportionally.

And Indian and China the two Nations I alluded to previously, have no strict rules on "SIN". 

I'm not sure that your hypothesis is particularly water-tight.

Hierarchy in all things.

Since the beginning of the material universe.

It's how matter progresses.

And humans are a part of the process.

1.Dogs behave as Dogs,

2. And humans behave as humans.

Humans who supposedly have superior intellect, constantly overlook the above points 1 and 2. and resort to communicating violently.

Same sort of human will also communicate violently with children, and also with other situations that exceed their intellectual parameters.

I have a beloved dog, and we have mutual respect for our differences, so violent communication has never been a part of our relationship.

Techno addiction not so good. (Though possibly necessary in terms of material progression)

Belly dance class good. (Though there could be associated risks to the evenings entertainment)

Substance abuse stupid.

We all know this.

But some people think what the heck.

Though self destruction is unavoidable anyway.

In the time of Jesus of the bible tales, world population was 300 million approx.

It is now 8 billion approx.

So GODDO's eradication rate is seemingly quite low.

And with a combined total of 2.8billion approx, the two largest non-Christian countries appear to be somehow avoiding GODDOS wrath quite successfully, thank you.

One does not need to subscribe to a religion to be able to understand the naive hypothesis behind it.

I would also suggest that atheism is actually a more progressive concept than theism.

The rejection of archaic naivety in favour of logical realism.

1. The theist accepts that it was a magical floaty about Middle Eastern bloke what did it.

2. The atheist assesses the theistic concept and realises how stupid an idea it is.

As ever:

GOD concept valid.

Floaty about Arabian type, not so.

Ultimately,

The Pres,

Is an unnecessary.

Parody.

I sign in,

I read,

I comment

I leave.

President,

Not required.

Same as,

Last time.

Tell him to have fun whilst he can.

All kids enjoy having a phase.

Fundamentally, it's all about sex and procreation. Though it's evolved into all sorts of daft stuff.

The other half of the human binary system.

So a high sperm count coupled with the strength to dominate his rivals and subjugate his harem, is the true mark of a man.

Of course, we've thought up loads of other BS since then. Like religion for example.

If you hadn't noticed, we are now in the techno-age.

Wherein the Earth has a singular global community.

You have to move quickly to keep up these days, or loose touch.

And so, old people go to war to fight old peoples wars.

For sure.

But the Earth is either a flat disc or a spheroid.

At least with the spheroid one doesn't have to worry about the edge or underneath.

Though the thickness of the flat Earth would need to be reasonably substantial. whereby it should perhaps be more accurately described as a cylinder.

Which leads me to conclude that structural integrity is reliant upon a spherical format.

Indigo is a dye extracted from plants of the genus Indigofera 

Indigofera tinctura or Indigofera suffruiticosa for example.

Of course, I knew that and didn't need to refer to Wiki.

My wave is green with yellow zig-zags.

And obviously with a tiny bit of silver.

Bang on.

The thing about historical information is that we have no way of actually knowing if it represents fact or fiction.

We can't assume that everything written on a metaphorical shard of pottery is factually correct.

Undoubtedly.

@Melcharaz

Takes one to know one.

If there is a GOD, one would assume that it is omni-sensible.

Not a trait that Christians credit their GOD with.

WTF does that mean.

Zip ties.

And yesterday.

And the day before.

And the day before that.

Etc.

Etc.

Etc.

Hmmmmm.

How is that any different to what we have now?

Separatism creates conflict.

So inevitably, communes would coalesce into larger groups.

And so on, until we end up with what we have now.

Which is what happened. 

So not much point in starting again.

Especially now that humanity is linked by technology.

People function variously.

Out of 8 billion, how many are the same?

What is normal?

Did I get the first History Posting?

Internal electro-chemical data analysing systems, variously interpret incoming sensory signals.

And make up and output all sorts of sh*t.

Some of that sh*t is referred to as religion.

And other stuff is sometimes referred to as the Grammy Awards.

All perhaps comes under the umbrella of social ideology.

Like saying the umbrella of social ideology, for example.

What I'm "meaning" is.

What would be the point of saying that the Earth is spherical, if it was actually flat.

It's would be a pointless conspiracy theory for the sake of it.

The same as saying that the Earth is flat when it is actually spherical.

@ Melcharaz

Love is an overused epithet.

That can  be used to describe a million and one internal responses to external stimuli.

GOD hypotheses being just a few examples.

Ice cream being another.

The Earth might just as well be spherical as flat.

It's a fun discussion every now and then though.

Not much difference apart from a splash of blue and a megaphone.

People just want money.

F**k the history.

That's labelling for you.

Same people, different label.

Same the World over.

People are essentially stupid,

Even though they are intelligent.

Strange,

But true.