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Been there

Done that

Forgotten it

Move on.

I see that Kim has piled on the pounds again.

True.

Money is the motivator.

Discrimination based upon perceivable differences relative to human intellectual development leaves us at a point in time that is generally regarded as 2023.

So things became what they are.

And things didn't become what they are not.

And things will continue to become what they will become.

And none of these realisms have an alternative..

And it's impossible to say if any of this has any greater significance than this.

Belief:   An acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.

So an accurate definition per se.

But a definition that presents the interpreter with more that one option.

So not necessarily definitive as a solution to an uncertain question.

Therefore belief by definition has inbuilt uncertainty.

I assumed that here was a shared context regarding the question and the answer.

I didn't realise that we were discussing geology.

So for sure, a woman is not a rock.

My silly.

Certainly wasn't a brain teaser.

Faith, Belief and Truth.

What was I saying about non-specific words.

. Faith implies ignorant devotion to something that cannot be known..

. Belief implies acceptance in the absence of knowledge, therefore uncertainty.

. Truth implies honesty, even though honesty does not necessarily imply accuracy.

We could probably do this all day long.

. Probability implies uncertain certainty or certain uncertainty etc etc.

Not a man.

Man-kind,

But demonstrably different.

The egg producing half of a binary primate species.

Though I am a member of the wider community,

Sometimes referred to as LGBTTH+O.

Sore throat,

Blocked nose,

Husky voice,

Nasal prose.

Phlegmy chest,

Not the best,

Aching head,

Go to bed.

Power corrupts.

What more do you expect.

Yep. 

Thank you Dart team for maintaining the sites integrity.

J A L F T.

For sure. belief is a non-specific word.

But I would still suggest, that to believe in something you know for certain is a tad unnecessary.

Therefore, belief actually implies uncertainty.

It would be very interesting to be able to put a face to the name, and see how our mental images measure up.

Impoverished single Caucasian Mum, (did she ever mention a partner). A victim of her own circumstances.

40 to 50 years of age.

A propensity for weed, slightly over-weight with her roots grounded in mainstream Christianity. 

Was perhaps quite a looker when she was younger.

Presumably the building blocks of life would have been present at the point of material generation/creation. Howsoever that may have occurred.

GOD principle.

But not necessarily a floaty about bloke.

Or a BIG BOOM for that matter.

As it would require an audio-receptor to register a BOOM.

So the QUIET UNSEEN EVENT then.

Size irrelevant, as there would be no comparison, nor a comparer.

OK, so if you're going to be picky, there might have a multiverse event, and some events might have been more extensive than others.

No thoughts currently.

8 Billion People.

Shit's bound to happen.

Matt Gaetz has been here for 41 years.

So blame Ronald Raegan.

Yep. One should always refer to them as Transistor Radios.

Or do you mean blokes in frocks?

Or perhaps even modified blokes in frocks.

Perhaps we should now only use the T word.

Perhaps all words should be abbreviated to avoid any controversy.

So.

I T T A T's A P W W E T I U T A.

Hope no one finds this offensive.

Otherwise we will be reduced to silence.

Well.

Within the context of acquired and stored data 1 + 1 = 2 is an unvarying and known fact. 

So why would you need to believe that 1 + 1 = 2

Ok, so you might suggest that there will undoubtedly be the uneducated few who are not furnished with such knowledge, but they could not believe in something that they do not know.

As for GODs and their associated tales. Some people become conditioned  to accept such established propositions as accurate, even though there is no definitive proof available. We refer to this as belief or an uncertain belief that is based upon known but nonfactual data.

It's a bit like waiting at the bus stop for the bus that will hopefully arrive.

More chance of a bus turning up though. Because know for a fact that buses do exist.

Regional disagreement and conflict starts way before 2014.

Though everything post Putin's special military operation, is the work of Putin and his acolytes.

Belief doesn't prove anything other than uncertainty.

And principled reasons are often financially inspired.

For sure.

But animals are also an organic cellular structure.

And cellular organic structures have to possess a certain something in order to grow, don't they.

So what is cultured meat grown from?

Animal stem cells if my research is correct.

So certainly not compliant with vegan ideology.

So does it contain life?

Or is it just a chemical structure?

If it's grown from living cells, then one would assume that it is a structure that contains life.

Which would be sort of like rearing an animal.

And sort of counter-productive for vegans.

Yep. AI.

Material evolution,

In progress.

Here on Planet Earth,

And elsewhere perhaps.

Maybe one day,

Two devices,

Will meet in outer-space,

And chat,

In a common language.

Something that humans,

Have failed to do,

For three hundred thousand Years

We should have got the hang of it,

By now.

Though,

AI is teaching us.

Well, left and right have similar aims. Control and power and all the social benefits that a position of authority bestows.

I would disagree.

The statement in question was designed to provoke a response.

A typically trite and insubstantial jibe.

What is devastated totally?

What levels?

Almost every, so not totally then?

Just a provocative trolling comment.

 

Poly was her own worst enemy.

She was offered a rope,

And she hung herself.

Shame.

Bound to happen though.

Exactly.

Nice to see that you've come around to the atheist way of think.

I think we've got a convert team.

Or are they just being sarcastic, because they no I'm right?

I remember being a little kid at Sunday School.

Same old non-sense then, as it is now.

The narrative never changes.

As I just explained to our resident multi-theist, it doesn't matter who reads what, or where they read it. The words are all the same.

And just because you might have a label on your forehead which says Christian, doesn't make you any more proficient in reading or interpreting bible stories.

Your closing statement is a bit of a troll statement as you well know. (Trolling is a popular subject at the moment)

Acceptance of the unknown is something we all have to deal with.

Fantasy hypotheses are what they are, and for sure may give some people reassurance.

I personally, am content with my existence. And simply look upon death as the end of my life.

And the older I get the more accepting of death I become. No GOD required.

And if there is a GOD, I'm sure that they understand everything.

And have a right laugh at some of the stuff humans get up to. Theist and atheists alike.

Dim theists get really freaked out by clever atheists.

@Poly

Metaphorically speaking.

The transfer of biblical information is no more or less cutting and pasting.

The theist reads the bible and the atheist reads the bible.

The theist looks on google and the atheist looks on google.

Makes no difference who reads it, the words are all the same

And lets be honest, how many people who label as theist have ever studied or even read the bible?

Theist is just an arbitrary label relative to an assumption, and perhaps a bit of a wet head when one was a nipper.

I agree.

@Poly.

Bill gates is right. The Earth would probably be a better place with less people on it.

But Mr Gates also knows that he is rich because the less rich made him rich.

Rich people without the less rich would not be rich.

And richness is a concept relative to a human organism for a fleeting moment of universal time.

Death is the big leveller, and sustaining and protecting monetary richness is as much a mental chore as any other human life is.

And richness is not a concept that applies exclusively to monetary wealth and material possessions.

Presumably you find richness in polytheism and your family.

As I find richness in the things I do, and the family and people I associate with.

Though what the future holds for humanity and the planet, almost certainly lies in the brains of the clever few.

And the future of the Universe is an inconceivably long time compared to the universal nanosecond of our existence.

Innocent is a thought derived concept. Which realistically is the extent of it's significance.

The only creatures that are or are not innocent are the ones we decide are or are not innocent.

So the Leopard brutally  kills the baby Gazelle. Which one is or isn't innocent in your mind?

If google repeats the bible verbatim, then it's as valid an information source as the bible itself.

And it's understandable that a theist should be irked by an atheists greater knowledge of the bible.

And let's be honest, anyone with good reading skills and comprehension can easily acquire an in depth knowledge of biblical scripture.

After all the bible is just a collection of Middle Eastern folk tales, and not rocket science.

Yep, I eat loads of peanuts.

Peanuts aren't Nuts,

They're Peas.

Just saying.

Always good to hear from you Deb.

Drive carefully,

Enjoy the music.

And the above post #210 isn't loaded with what you might refer to as trolling?

Nonetheless, learned  points of view that might not agree with your point of view, are exactly what the are and also inevitable.

And for sure, an indeterminate topic such as modern religious ideology, is going to be loaded with satire and logical criticism.

And satire and logical criticism will undoubtedly seem like trolling to the religiously conditioned.

Such is the nature of data transfer and conditioning, and the variability of available human knowledge.

So consequently from my point of view. An accusation of trolling, especially within a religious context, is the epitome of a strawman argument.

None of which alters the fact that Bro D and Stephen have a greater knowledge of biblical scripture than most people on this site.

Which is sort of ironic, is it not?

Bro D and Stephen.

More learned in terms of biblical knowledge than most participants on this site.

And the basis of this site is the art of trolling.

Though some trolling is more subtle than other trolling.

But some people will only respond if provoked.

Essence of a Trannie.

Is that by Yves Saint Laurent?

A tantalising fragrance of steroids and post op seepage.

Yep, mouth speed to sleepy Joe ratio.

Still a bit of work to do before it looks convincing.

A field day for the Litigationists then.

I would suggest that intelligence is the ability to acquire, store, consider and re-appropriate data.

And any device, whether it be organic or otherwise will begin empty of knowledge.

Albeit, the organic contains inbuilt genetic data, which stimulates and purposes the mass.

Some might argue that inbuilt or sub-conscious data could be controlled by the conscious mind, and it's just  that we have somewhere along the line lost the ability to do so.

But I would disagree. We are variously programmed to die, and there is nothing we can do as individuals to affect that inbuilt decision.

Genetic therapy is reliant upon third party conscious intelligence and intervention. And aging is still inevitable no matter how we might consciously and physically attempt to subvert the process of decline.

So, morality is no more than variously considered and variously re-appropriated data. What we are taught or learn through sensory observation and the acquisition of incoming data, and there are many and varied socio- environmental factors that will affect our moral considerations and conclusions. Previously it would have been our immediate environment and social collective that was our primary conditioner, and it still is up to a point, especially when we are undergoing our initial stages of conscious data acquisition. But nowadays we must also consider the intervention of electronic data input from a wider intelligence source.

I would therefore suggest that morality is just a label we apply to our conditioned and sometimes modified patterns of consciously inspired behaviour. With particular regard to how we interact with our external environment. Because we can and do.

Just rambling on a Sunday morning,

Trawling thorough my conscious database.

In an attempt to put together,

An appreciable narrative,

For Lemming.

Though tilted pictures are irksome,

For that brief moment of awareness.

O.C.D.

Or not to be.

That is the question.

Inbuilt or acquired?

That and sexuality of course,

Other than procreational drive.

Procreation and it's conscious methodology,

Always a moral dilemma.

4 legs good and 2 legs bad if you are a quadruped.

And vice versa if you are a biped.

Though a woman with 4 legs and three vaginas would make a fortune on Only Fans.

Just saying Vlad.