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@Lemming
Or that AI could be created advanced enough without gaining intelligence.
Sounds sort of contradictory in a way.
As I see it, any data processing device that cannot gain intelligence is just a programmed data processing device and therefore not intelligent per se.
Similarly the term "moral nihilist" also sounds a tad contradictory.
As I see it, if there is no meaning to anything then morality is irrelevant.
To be moral is to attribute value to the object of your moral purpose.
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@Reece101
So tell the old guy what deepfake porn is.
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@Best.Korea
I don't have a smartphone.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Sounds like good old human discrimination to me Doc.
After all who actually wrote the bible?
GODDO or some blokes.
And didn't good old J heal a lame man in a pond somewhere.
Correct me if I'm wrong Doc.
Though good old double standards if he did.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Nothing at all wrong with speaking the truth.
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@Greyparrot
I rarely use wiki.
Though facts is facts and conspiracy is conspiracy.
And someone shot down MH17 with a Buk missile in 2014, and it wasn't me.
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@Stephen
Yep. One day in the summer.
Watch this space.
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@Lemming
As you said, sounds like sarcasm.
Though there is a lot to be said for bringing all drugs supply in house and therefore decriminalising the process.
And for sure, if society is to function in some sort of stable fashion, then it has to be regulated.
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@Stephen
We must do that one day. Stephen
Regards.
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@Reece101
Cultured meat just highlights Vegan hypocrisy. The desire for meat and yet a meat free ideology.
Though the viability of any protein source will largely depend upon cost.
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@Greyparrot
I was more of a Thatchriot at the time.
Not that I ever voted for her.
It was just that she assisted me onto the property ladder. For which I have always been grateful.
Nope, Mr T Blair was always a bit too obsequious for my liking.
And Mr E A Blair was a tad hypocritical by default.
And your version of 2014 would make Mr Putin very proud I'm sure.
And the friends and families of MH17 would be honoured by your heartfelt support.
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@Stephen
Aid or Bribes?
And where do we get the money from?
I suppose that's why we're not diplomats.
And death and ignorance will come soon enough.
So, mines a pint of HPA.
What's yours?
Brilliant.
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@Greyparrot
Nice Rhetoric.
But there is a notable difference between perceived aggression and actual aggression.
And of course a similar difference between paranoid megalomania and diplomacy.
And then there is the "West's" dependency on Middle Eastern Crude Oil to consider. (Though things have moved on a tad in the past twenty years)
Though as I suggested, two separate and not really comparable sets of circumstances.
And I'm guessing you remember my liking for the other Mr Blair's work.
Not that I found either Blair's politics particularly agreeable.
Such are variations of thought I suppose.
And Ovine? Well in terms of being part of a flock, I guess we all fall into one category or another. Though some flocks are bigger than others.
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@AleutianTexan
Just pointing out the common mistake of referring to previous settlers as indigenes.
And in the same context, there is only really one race.
Yo are referring to discrimination based upon perceivable difference. Which is survival technique that we all utilise.
So, perhaps we should strive to instil tolerance and respect into future generations. But this is a two way process and requires a huge shift in current thinking and in how we transfer data between generations.
So take a look at the Russia/Ukraine crisis and tell me, do yo think discrimination is going to be written out of our DNA any time soon.
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@Greyparrot
Approve of what.
Are we talking the invasion of Ukraine and unprovoked Russian aggression?
Or are we talking the West's lies about WMD's, used as a phoney excuse for securing Iraqi oil fields?
Two different issues, on which I have two separate opinions.
So we ignore Russian military aggression in Ukraine.
And then what?
Poland, Baltic States etc. etc.
Same old, as before.
And you can hide over there and worry about the Chinese.
Though that said, the US is only 2.5miles from Russia.
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@Best.Korea
So why don't we predate upon them and control them?
Well, because some people like to overthink the fact that we are omnivorous animals.
Is being slowly mauled to death by a pack of wolves any nicer that being killed in an abattoir?
And where is all this unused pasture and where are all the predators?
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@Greyparrot
Ask Tony Blair and his boyfriend Dubya.
Nothing to do with me.
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@Best.Korea
To produce milk a Cow must produce a Calf, approximately once a year.
So what to do with all the bull calves?
Currently with either eat them or euthanise them.
If we keep them all, we will end up with millions to look after.
We will also end up with either millions of surplus cows, or millions of gallons of surplus milk.
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@Greyparrot
The USA is filled with English speakers.
Doesn't mean that we have a legitimate right to invade.
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@AleutianTexan
No such thing as an Indigene, they are just previous settlers that migrated from Asia.
Who originally migrated from the cradle of humanity.
Same as everyone else.
Someone from Central Africa perhaps has the rightful claim to indigenouship.
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@AleutianTexan
Well, it's how you live your life.
So normality in that respect.
And therefore you don't naturally consider it.
It's only when you think about that you realise all sensory input has to be converted into internal electro-chemical data, before it can be understood.
We can never be 100% certain that we do actually interact with our surroundings in the way that we think we do.
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@Stephen
Of course, it could all be a load of bollocks.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Hey, if people want to buy drugs then let them.
No need then for trafficker's or shady dealers, just have drugs on the supermarket shelves. Age restricted and with a Government health warning of course.
Same approach as with that other well known US addiction. Guns.
And if people are keen to make a mess of their lives, then that's their choice. Though they shouldn't expect to come looking for sympathy when things go tits up.
Nanny State is often counter-productive. There should definitely be a cut off point where adults must take responsibility for their own actions
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@sadolite
@AleutianTexan
I've come to realise that everything is actually an internal simulation of an assumed external reality.
If one considers the processes involved in producing a sensory understanding of everything.
In terms of a visual understanding of externality, it is impossible to see anything other than an internally created image converted from an external light source.
In other words, a simulation.
Same applies to all other sensory input.
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@Greyparrot
Well, given the slow and dangerous collapse of the Russian system, then defence certainly needs to be a priority right now..
But for sure, wouldn't it be lovely if we didn't need to bother with defence.
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@Public-Choice
Culture: The ideas, customs and social behaviour of a particular people or society.
So U.S. culture incorporates all customs and social behaviour of U.S. society.
Which includes all aspects of ownership possession and usage of guns. Responsible and irresponsible alike.
And not just the rose tinted view of a pleasant day out at the gun club with a fine set of lads and lassies.
Conservatively estimated at 400,000,000 guns nationwide and 44000 gun related deaths in 2022.
All statistics readily available on line to liberals and conservatives alike.
And me, I'm apolitical and moderate.
And all societies have criminals and a criminal culture.
But what we have is Police that deal with criminals
And not every Tom Dick and Harriet armed to the teeth, eager to take the law into their own hands.
Gun deaths in the UK. 150 approx. Including suicide, homicide and accidental. (Definitive statistics for 2022, hard to find).
Sporting guns are rigorously controlled.
Very few people own or use hunting rifles.
And no ordinary law abiding citizen owns or uses military grade automatic or semi-automatic firearms.
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@Stephen
It's called a Beacon of Hope.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Chopping babies in half as they are being born.
Is that common practice in the US?
I don't think we do it over here.
Or was that just a teeny weeny bit of an emotional over-statement?
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@sadolite
Sex and Money makes the World go around.
Metaphorically speaking.
Though I did see an article on Facebook the other day, where a sex worker type female laundered all her tips.
In no way was any disrespect aimed at other gendered type fluid non-binary lacking pronouns type sex worker persons, in the compilation of this post.
One doesn't wish to discriminate.
As for Mr Biden's house being raided by the FBI.
We would expect nothing less than a bit of tit for tat raiding entertainment from the US.
Gotta fill those endless hours of boring news programmes in between all those interminable prescription drugs ads with something.
Not forgetting all the endless hours of weather forecasting of course.
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@K_Michael
All living (braindead is iffy, and obviously pre-birth is controversial) humans are people, but not all people are necessarily human.
WTF?
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@Elliott
Crumpets and Honey.
Yum Yum.
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@sadolite
Hey.
You're free to move any where you want to.
Don't let my narrative stop you.
Hop on a plane and come to Wales for a beer and a chat.
Of course, the reality is that it all boils down to affordability.
Have a nice day.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Nope, Government is the job of cleverer people.
You vote for them and they get on with the job.
That's you, as in the People of the United States of America.
And if it's not the folks you were taught to vote for, then you get a bit miffed for a few years.
Same old, Same old.
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@YouFound_Lxam
So it was a wet year.
And a Middle Eastern guy in a big wooden boat saved and fed all the creatures of the Earth.
Yep, you interpret the bible as you've been taught to and I will be slightly more pragmatic.
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@Public-Choice
And there will have been many times when a bad guy with a gun stopped a good guy with a gun.
This is U.S. gun culture.
As is the lax approach to the ownership of guns in the U.S.
And who the good and bad guys are is largely irrelevant.
400,000,000. Enough guns for everyone.
And so 44,000 people died, so what, that's gun culture too.
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@TheUnderdog
As long as there are no sexual organs on display, then it's no different to what everyone is exposed to on social media these days.
I bet that most 8 year olds already know what a drag queen is.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Hmmmm.
You seem to be overlooking the fact that the Government are "People of the United States of America".
It's just that you are not an American person who is a member of the Government.
I'm sorry to have to tell you, that it's just how a society works.
Could be the USA could be Russia, which would you prefer?
If you want to run the USA, then you should have done better at school.
Or have a go and put yourself forwards for your next local election.
You're probably not ready yet for Senator or President.
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@sadolite
I would suggest that a lot of movement is probably unnecessary.
Extensive movements are a luxury that we have come to regard as necessary.
And we have also become slightly lazy as a consequence.
Why walk when you don't have to.
My opinion of course.
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@Public-Choice
Nope.
"Criminals" having ready access to guns is gun culture.
A "criminal" is no more or less a citizen of the U.S. and therefore a part of U.S. culture.
And a nut-job who has ready access to guns will kill. Such is a consequence of gun culture.
And armed citizens (those that you regard as the good guys with guns) never have and will not, eradicate either the criminal or the nut job from U.S. society.
Such is gun culture.
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@YouFound_Lxam
As I stated. Not true accounts per se.
So what "fish" is likely to swallow a Man.
And flood events occur all the time.
And exaggerated tales are the consequence.
There are so many logical reasons why the Noah's Ark story cannot be true.
So a bloke in a boat,
Rescued a goat,
Or two,
On a particularly wet day.
And on the same day,
A bloke out swimming,
Encountered,
A Basking Shark.
What a lark.
And the rest is history.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Well.
Jonah and the Whale, Noah's Ark and the biblical flood are not true accounts per se.
But could be exaggerated reinterpretations of localised events.
Which is exactly what the bible amounts to. A mixture of fact and fiction based around a human centred creation hypothesis, social ideology and regional politics.
And add a bit of fantasy to the mix.
The idea of humanesque GOD/S was around long before the Christian re-invention.
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@Public-Choice
Because all the baddies have got guns.
Because the U.S. is awash with guns.
Because that's U.S. gun culture.
Just because a city or region bans guns, doesn't mean baddies won't have them, does it?
And let's be honest the good guys with guns aren't going to choose to live in bad neighbourhoods in places like Detroit and Baltimore.
The point still stands. In a Nation State in which private citizens own approximately 400 million guns, someone is inevitably going to get shot.
That's gun culture.
Who owns what gun and shoots who, is totally irrelevant.
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@sadolite
Government subsidies is just you paying up front for replacement energy technology, which has been deemed to be an urgent requirement in relation to apparent environmental concerns.
Whether or not one agrees with the scientific basis of such environmental concerns, largely boils down to selfishness or less selfishness relative to cost to the individual.
From my point of view EV's are are still too costly and unpredictable.
Though the EV era is still in it's infancy.
I expect that people said the same about the swap from horses to cars 120 or so years ago.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Doomed if you do and doomed if you don't.
There is never another option.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Christianity is the acceptance that certain comparatively recent middle Eastern fantasy tales explain the GOD concept.
Which they don't. They are just very naive and exaggerated stories about human beings.
The God bit is always an imaginary sub-plot.
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@YouFound_Lxam
What ever floats a mans procreational boat.
Which is basically what it's all about.
Sperm production however it might occur.
And if mincing is a part of the process then so be it.
No one is forcing you to mince.
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