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@Conservallectual
One the one hand you overcomplicate atheism.
And on the other hand you present a basic misrepresentation of atheism.
Just the same old dig at non-theists really, just dressed up in slightly different verbiage.
The age old dig, proposing that non-theist lives therefore have no purpose, is baloney.
One could just as easily argue that theistic lives must be so shallow and meaningless, if purpose can only be found within the pages of a fantasy.
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@RationalMadman
Well,
Emotive semantics again.
Me personally,
I would rather not create it in the first place,
If it wasn't planned.
But others think and do differently.
Nonetheless.
I don't suppose that anyone creates,
With the sole aim of killing.
Medical and surgical intervention,
Gives us a plethora of possibilities these days.
Like,
Safe abortion when mistakes are made,
Or,
Gender realignment, which is,
No more or less,
The destruction of creation.
See how easy,
Semantics is.
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@Public-Choice
I don't think that they were being particularly serious.
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@RationalMadman
Emotive use of semantics dear RM.
Fertilization will occur (creation).
Killing babies is infanticide.
Removal of unwanted zygotes is what it is. Practical.
And morality is a variable concept.
And no one is right and no one is wrong.
Because right and wrong are also variable concepts.
In my opinion of course.
Your opinion may differ.
Such is the variability of opinions.
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@Shila
The GOD principle.
That which initiates a universal event is predictable within the potential and limitations of physical laws.
So the organic was inevitable, therefore ideas of a supernatural deity were also inevitable and predictable.
Trouble is such predictability can only be predicted with hindsight. LOL
And of course, a supernatural deities behaviour is simply human behaviour.
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@Tarik
Morality.
Yes, it's a concept that tends to vary considerably.
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@Ehyeh
GOD principle sound.
Infinitely existent floaty about blokes not so.
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@Greyparrot
You can always tell which is a Greyparrot thread.
Though true to the saying,
Power corrupts.
Doesn't matter which club you support.
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@Dr.Franklin
Yep.
One possibility is Doc,
It was the choir boy thing that they found exciting.
Not that I believe them for a minute.
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@RationalMadman
Sensible for sure....Just call me Mr Wise.
But pro-lifers supposedly have a moral crusade.....Albeit a hypocritical one.
The potential for a life must be present within the sperm and the egg.
So if some pro-lifers advocate sterilization, they clearly also wish to pick and choose their moments of high morality.
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@ebuc
Vasectomies have doubled.
Sort of pro-life hypocrisy really.
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@RationalMadman
Relatively speaking, nothing hurtles.
Hurtling is only a concept relative to you.
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@Oldschoolpancakedummy
So it took you 92 years to rebel against your protestant upbringing.
How did your Saudi neighbours react to your decision?
Oldschoolpancakedummy hey?
And I just converted to Vogon.
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@Shila
I sure love the spiritual gift of Ice cream.
We have a bloke who comes around in a pink van selling creamy fantasy treats.
His name is Paul.
And he has a lot of Greek pals.
How's that for a miraculous coincidence?
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@FLRW
I know for a fact that RM is bald with buck teeth and a zit problem.
His Rapping pseudonym is Spot the Hairless Rabbit.
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@Greyparrot
A Icantmakeanymoneyinvestingingreenenergyduetothefactwehaven'thitthebottomoftherecessionyetocracy.
Is this like an arm of conspiratocracy.
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@Greyparrot
Another "racy" but with an A instead of and O.
I would suggest that you enjoy living in a conspiratocracy.
Whereas I live in a getupdothisandthatandthengobacktobedocracy.
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@Shila
@Poly
To be honest, spaceships is the more reasonable explanation for the whole GOD thing.
Though they seem to have forgotten the way back.
Or have they.
@Shila.
Did Moses get lost too.
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@Shila
Rejecting the Gospel as a collection of eyewitness accounts of Jesus from his generation leaves you with nothing but speculation.
Exactly.
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@Shila
Therefore we end up with typical mythology.
A mix of people, places and fantasy.
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@Poly.
Fortunately these days, we all know that witches are make believe.
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@Vici
There is simply no good pro-choice argument.
Other than the good simple argument for pro-choice
Which is that of the host mother to make.
Rather than the choice of some pious old bloke.
Or pious young bloke for that matter.
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@Poly.
How can one present an "accurate" portrayal of a mythical GOD?
A portrayal that satisfies your needs perhaps.
My perfect Odin is a slender transsexual formerly known as Odette, who enjoys tickling maidens breasts with a Ravens feather.
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@TWS1405
Liberal terrorists is something of a contradiction in terms anyway.
It's just the old us and them argument.
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@Stephen
Worn out, then to either landfill or incineration.
Bibles and people alike.
Though tattered old bibles have a habit of outliving their guardian.
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@TheUnderdog
A human zygote resultant of the fusing of two human gametes (egg and sperm) is what it is.
Definition proceeds through developmental stages, to a point whereby the dependant becomes detached from the host and is labelled variously as a baby, child, adult etc.
All human and all being.
Until such times when they might expire.
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@Greyparrot
And also remember that Putin is one of a line of paranoid Soviet/Russian megalomaniacal tyrants.
Who will be next?
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@Poly
It's all just reprocessed data presented as entertainment.
No big deal.
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And stuff.
And go to bed.
And get up in the morning....With a bit of luck.
And if one wants to be in a Sunday morning club and do a bit of mumbling and singing....Then go for it.
And the founding fathers (mothers didn't get a look in) are long since dead and buried.
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@Poly
Perhaps some people don't bother to engage in stuff that is patently stupid.
Just a thought.
Though in fairness, we all look to do stuff in our spare time.
And dancing naked in the woods might be quite liberating I suppose.
As long as it makes you feel good.
Though it must be said that you certainly exhibit a lot of angst.
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@3RU7AL
Ask a vegan.
Rights is a variable concept.
And species identification is such that we differentiate.
And humans are such that they are selectively moral.
Because morality is also a variable concept.
Vegans don't give a dam about the rights of Quinoa seeds.
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@RationalMadman
I think that you compiled that response in a hurry.
For sure "they" or "it" identifies an indeterminate organism.
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@coal
Right wing conspiracy theory hey.
So who killed Darya Dugina then.
The Ukraine, the U.S or the Russians.
You've got to admit it's brilliant P.R. for the Russians.
Quickly solving the crime, also implicating Estonia.
Bit odd that the FSB didn't notice a Ukrainian agent driving a Mini from the Ukraine and back to Estonia.
Fun times ahead me thinks.
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@RationalMadman
There we are.
Semantics, and you interpret the word and apply it to your notion of things.
Female egg producer, male sperm producer and the very occasional developmental anomaly......That's the way I interpret things.
In terms of basic references, the old standards are good enough for me. He, she, man woman etc.
Though modern trends relative to post natal socio-psychological attitudes towards recreational sex cannot be ignored.
If Daphne grows a beard and she want's to be referred as Dave, that's fine by me.
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@RationalMadman
It.
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@TheUnderdog
For sure, factory farming is the way forwards.
How few people does material evolution require now?
As long as we establish remote sperm and egg storage facilities.
Selective breeding is perhaps all that is necessary.
A passive, sterile well cared for labour force, servicing the needs of an intellectual elite is perhaps all that will be required.
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@TWS1405
A grass seed has nothing to do with this debate/discussion.
A grass seed is everything to do with highlighting hypocrisy.
And as I thought you have no idea what life actually is.
Neither do I by the way.
All that the above describes are some of the basic requirement of a living organism.
Extinguishing life in any organism, whether it be plant or animal is the same process. It's just that we dress it up with various verbiage to make it seem more or less palatable.
What I refer to as selective morality.
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@Shila
Curious facts.
Interestingly some of the first documented Witches on broomsticks were Christians, deemed heretics by the Roman Catholic Church.
And the first trial and torture of a witch on a broomstick, was that of a male priest.
And for sure sticks between legs is an ancient fertility ritual, for obvious reasons.
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@Elliott
It's possibly something an advanced civilisation could do.
Though perhaps it would be more sensible just to use the door.
And is it likely that an advanced civilisation would send a single bloke, via a human womb, once, a couple of thousand years ago and then just bugger off?
Is it likely that an omni-GOD would do the same.
Some people do seem to credit advanced beings with high levels of daftness.
Possibilities are usually improbabilities.
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@Intelligence_06
I would suggest that 50% of the population is actually self-stereotyping relative to it's internal function and processes.
Modern social aspirations and expectations compel certain groups to strive to exceed their innate nature.
Though this is currently not a global evolutionary shift.
The future impact of this shift on the species and specific national sub-groups will eventually out though.
Factory farming would be a reasonable alternative if the current trend of defeminisation, demasculinisation and sexual equalising persists.
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@Shila
For sure, moods alter relative to endocrinal function and processes.
And hysteria would certainly be an archaic diagnosis.
But try telling that to a militant feminist.
Though it could be said that all unruly behaviour is the manifestation of internal processes relative to procreation and survival.
Male aggression for instance.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
For sure.
Witchery is just madey up shit, like all the other madey up shit.
And the crowds used to love the pseudo erotic frisson of a good burning.
Westerners pretend not to be interested in that sort of stuff these days.
But certain people away out East somewhere, still get a buzz from a good public execution.
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@TWS1405
Clearly that life is human in origin.
See #67.
Have you any idea what life is?
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@PREZ-HILTON
You can threaten, spam and call me what ever you like.
And I won't block you.
X.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Hey Deb.
Have you ever tried standing up in front of an audience of gullibles, and talking bullshit for half an hour?
You might just be good at it.....LOL.
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@Shila
It seems that humans never listen.
Though perhaps the only way to learn is to make mistakes.
Nonetheless, the GOD hypothesis is but one.
And like all creation hypotheses, it falls down at the beginning.
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