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@RationalMadman
If you had ignored the contents, you wouldn't have known them either.
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@Intelligence_06
I expect that descendants of the Huns live all over the place.
There are probably quite a few in the U.S.
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@3RU7AL
So why do we deteriorate and die if we are constantly replacing ourselves?
Or are you saying that we replace worn out cells with even more worn out cells?
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@sadolite
I'm even older as fuk.
By him a bicycle and a book.
His head is probably already glued to an electronic device enough as it is.
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@DebateAllDaTings
Nothing and something are not opposites.
In terms of human perception, nothing is a concept and something is a tangible reality.
I assume that what you are questioning, is where does matter come from.
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@RationalMadman
Victims have a tendency to enjoy victimisation.
PM's are such that you have complete control, whereby you have the absolute power to decide whether to respond or ignore.
The fact that you have chosen to respond and then subsequently assume victimisation, is totally down to you.
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@sadolite
Well, being a brit means that I don't understand your concept of poopy head.
Nonetheless, what is the better alternative to a majority decision, every four years?
So hypothetically, you somehow manage to peaceably divide the U.S into two Nations, the Blue and the Red......And then what.
Do you think that all the Reds will sort of always instinctively and telepathically agree, without the need for government.
Nope.
You will either, end up with a one party Red State administered by tyrants.
Or perhaps a two party Redish State, with the Scarlets and the Clarets say.
And if you side with the Scarlets and the Clarets win with an 51% majority.....Then what.
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@lady3keys
And Poly is an expert.
Well, an expert with the "F" word.
For me, death is the end of life and the breaking down of matter into it's component parts.
Though nothing wrong with assuming otherwise.
Evolved intellect, mental ability and imagination, is such that we can assume otherwise.
And I like you and Poly, actually have no idea if any aspect of our physiology persists after death, other than it's basic components.
Components that are the basic structure of all matter.
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@Tradesecret
Yep, I'm well old enough to remember Bob Hope.
And nurtured nature , simply is another way of saying species evolution with particular regard to the evolution of mentality and intellect.
And for sure, the species soon learned that sex was fun and that temporary sexual satisfaction could be achieved in all sorts of ways.
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@RationalMadman
Thanks.
Better than 98 cents worth of nonsense.
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@ILikePie5
#10 So what does any of that mean?
And having a certain appearance and heritage doesn't make you any more an expert.
Perhaps just makes you biased.
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@RationalMadman
@ILikePie5
Within a democracy, an election and it's outcome is a collective decision based on all votes cast.
The other option, is do as you are told or else.
I know which I prefer.
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@DebateAllDaTings
As I said, gender fiction can be anything that one can imagine.
So I agree that psychologically anything is possible.
One can be a hermaphrodite turnip from Mars if one want's to be.
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@Greyparrot
@3RU7AL
@Shaheerfromhaveli
Democracy is a concept relative to human behaviour and the evolution of social systems.
How a State functions is relative to historical development and the development of a national psyche.
Pakistan is based upon a psyche moulded by historical tribalism, class, and oppression but also still somewhat affected by British colonialism and pre partition Indian rationalism.
A sort of crazy mixed up kid of a Nation.
And the U.S. Mr Parrot is thankfully still a moderate democracy founded upon moderate European values.
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@Shaheerfromhaveli
What exactly is a bright future?
And would all Pakistani citizens benefit from the bright future that you envisage?
As Islamic Monarchies and Communism are just Tyranny dressed up as one persons bright future.
Communism is simply a philosophical daydream.
And Monarchy is founded on elitism and class suppression.
Bright for a few, but dark and gloomy for most.
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@RationalMadman
@ILikePie5
Corruption and lust for power.
Reminds me of an Orange Guy.
I'm thinking that neither of you remotely understands Pakistan.
You're just pandering to your fears of Islam......Which are based upon U.S. media propaganda.
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@oromagi
Religion is in fact very quiet at the moment.
Gender, guns and politics are currently the hot topics.
And history and conspiracy theories are way off the boil.
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@DebateAllDaTings
For sure.
I'm not the lexicographer who is in a position to manipulate language.
Nor am I the lobbyist who demands that language is manipulated.
Nonetheless language is manipulated.
And the male produces male gametes and the female produces female gametes....End of the true story.
Gender fiction can be anything one cares to imagine.
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@ebuc
Well:
I do take an interest and I do read.
But:
All theories start after an assumed beginning. (Obviously)
I'm questioning what was before a beginning and why did a beginning occur.
Or to put it another simplistic way:
The average human is aware of stuff.
How can stuff be?
As far as I'm aware, creation theories do not address this issue.
It's just accepted that stuff exists and that it was somehow created. (From nothing)
If you were sitting watching T.V. and a hippopotamus suddenly appeared from nowhere in a puff of smoke.
Wouldn't you be slightly perplexed?
All of your above reply, however meaningful, is nonetheless post creation theory.
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@Double_R
You're referring to inherent function.
Fairness is neither here nor there.
In the context of species reproduction, fairness is a pointless concept.
The female of the species bears children and the male doesn't.
Well currently.
Maybe factory farming and selective breeding will be the long term solution to female woes and societal ills.
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@ILikePie5
This is where you're wrong lol
So explain then.
Otherwise your reply is just an unqualified and meaningless statement.
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@sadolite
Homosexuality is an evolved socio-psychological condition, relative to procreational satisfaction within a recreational format.
So not so much a disorder, but rather an evolved condition.
So sort of a nurtured nature.
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@Danielle
Excellent idea.
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@Danielle
@Greyparrot
@sadolite
@ILikePie5
@SirAnonymous
The American people voted for these guys.
So the buck stops with the American people.
Funny how every President becomes a bad decision.
Perhaps you expect miracles.
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@Dr.Franklin
It was all just people doing stuff at the time, relative to intellectual and social evolution.
Trouble is Doc.....We read too much into it.
Men were allowed to rape slave boys.
As the Bishop said to the alter boy.
Sounds like the degenerate shitshow that is the Roman Catholic Church.
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@TheUnderdog
Because society is obsessed with zygotes.
Speak for yourself.
Other than briefly within this forum, usually between approximately 7am and 8am........I never give zygotes a second thought.
Though the outcome of zygotes will obviously impact upon my life later when I go and harvest my beans and courgettes.
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@ebuc
We have no evidence of otherwise.
Of course.
But this makes no difference in terms of evolved intelligence and associated questions.
And one can also directly relate these principles to any and all GOD concepts.
And you have never explained the existence of matter...No one ever has.
The existence and state of sub-atomic particles is maybe what it is thought to be.
But this doesn't explain a beginning.
In terms of thought processing, it is just as easy to imagine empty space as it is to imagine occupied space.
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@DebateAllDaTings
In terms of gender.
Gender is a hijacked word.
Formally meaning one of two sexes...Male and Female.
Now meaning anything one can conceive of relative to a persons sexual fulfilment....Relative to ongoing socio-psychological conditioning.
And anything you condition a 5 year old to accept as true, a 5 year old will inevitably grow up believing so.
So tell them that one mummy is both daddy and mummy, and the other mummy is also mummy, then that is what they will become conditioned to accept.
And if a liberal society enforces such information then this is what you will end up with.
Though, one still cant hide from the fact that the butch one with the cropped hair, tattoos and boxer shorts is unable to produce male gametes.
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@Lemming
Material evolution seemingly necessitates mechanics.
And within that evolutionary process, human mechanics and intellect developed, and human mechanics and evolved intellect developed non-human mechanics and programmable intelligence.
One would suggest, that it is inevitable that one day non-human intelligence will self replicate without human input.
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@PREZ-HILTON
All that this goes to prove, is that if there were no guns there would be no gun deaths.
The question is, how many gun deaths per annum are you prepared to tolerate.
The current U.S. situation is based upon the acceptance of a tolerable rate of gun death per capita per annum.
The conclusion of which is that gun ownership is more important that a few dead kids.
A few dead kids simply becoming nothing more than a sporadic a media sensation.
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@PREZ-HILTON
And you stop even remembering your drive home.
This is dementia.
Might explain a lot of things.
Best you see a Doctor.
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@PREZ-HILTON
What a load of rubbish.
And I can't be bothered to explain why.
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@PREZ-HILTON
For sure....Religion is a human invention.
And Jew, Roman etc are also human inventions, relative to human inventions, relative to perceived differences relative to regional separation and acquired cultural behaviour etc.
We haven't really moved on much in this respect have we?
Overthink allows us to fly to the Moon and also compels us to fight and squabble over our invented earthly differences.
For a reason perhaps.
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@ebuc
Eternally transformed between states of occupied existence.
Yep, this is basically what I'm saying when I refer to sequential universes.
Though the questioning mind cannot ignore the notion of something from nothing....A beginning and therefore the possibility of an end.
GOD principle is that which perpetuates the sequence.
It's very easy to say eternally occupied space.....Space is an easy concept.
But can you explain the existence of matter......That which gives space significance.
The eternal existence of matter is very easy to say, but impossible to prove.
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@TheUnderdog
Why are you obsessed with zygotes?
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@TheUnderdog
Kids aren't zygotes.
Though there is a chance that a zygote might one day become a kid.
Goat kid or human kid, you choose.
Though perhaps you would apply less concern to the cute baby goat.
Selective morality, as it were.
One is a potential "deadbeat dad" and the other is a potential curry.
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@n8nrgim
GOD principle.
In short the notion that universal initiation/re-initiation and consequent material evolution, is a purposeful process.
As opposed to a pure chance event.
Though I stress that this is far from believing in magical, eternally existent blokes, derived from 2000 year old folk tales and creation mythology.
Nonetheless 2000 year old folk tales, creation mythology and eternally existent magical blokes, were (and I stress were) a reasonable interpretation of the GOD principle 2000 years ago.
Not that any of this gets us any closer to understanding the very beginning.....Something from nothing as it were.
Maybe one day the GOD principle will fail and the universal sequence will come to an ultimate end.
The GOD principle is likely to be dependent upon the evolution of intelligence....In so much as GOD initiates the evolution of intelligence, which in turn re-initiates the evolution of GOD, and so on.
To use human religious terminology..... GOD creates MAN in his image and Man recreates GOD in his image.....And so on.
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@TheUnderdog
Nope.
Understanding evolves.
And also sets a precedent, whereby teach them about reproduction..... And LGBT etc. misinformation, will be expected in the curriculum as well.
Force feeding young minds with such misinformation is irresponsible. And undoubtedly leads to developmental problems as kids mature sexually.
Same as force feeding kids religion...... Which undoubtedly leads to social division, and wider social problems in later life.
Unfortunately though, these days there's social media to contend with too.....Which certainly has led to a rise in socio-psychological problems.
Tell kids they're being bullied on line and they will fall for it hook line and sinker, just as effective to tell them to ignore, and laugh at the stupidity of idiots.
But then it certainly appears that some people acquire a morbid pleasure from victimisation.
In my opinion of course.
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@TheUnderdog
Medically speaking, pissing a zygote down the pan is abortion of the zygote, and is unknowingly a deliberate action of the host organism.
Trouble is, that ideological overthink leads to hypocrisy......Selective morality as it were.
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@ebuc
One might be tempted to suggest that the three wheel pothole argument is not logical.
If one is not paying attention, potholes will inevitably be encountered....So 4 chances instead of 3.
In fact if one is not paying attention, all sorts of things might be encountered.
Also, potholes tend not to be in the centre of a lane, but at the edges of the lane where most wear occurs.
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@oromagi
Makes no difference.
Just another category.
This post is already history....Let's discuss.
And the Earth is flat.....Oh no it isn't.
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@ebuc
Material evolution is such that humans evolved and human understanding changes things.
How predetermined and inevitable the process of material evolution might be, is impossible to say.
Pure chance or not, that is the question.
I have certainly changed my mind to take on board the GOD principle.
Though not to be confused with the floaty about bloke of Middle Eastern Mythology.
Not to say that the Middle Eastern Mythology hasn't evolved from a naive understanding of material processes.
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@Lemming
@Intelligence_06
Very true.
Changing ones mind.
Data in,
Data assessment/reassessment.
Data modification.
Because of Dart, I have certainly modified the way that I approach certain issues.
Though as Lemming suggests, instant changes are rare and only relative to obvious errors in understanding.
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@RationalMadman
I wouldn't disagree with that.
Though I must admit that I am apolitical or too moderate to align myself with any of our major parties.
Consequently I haven't voted in a general election or local elections for years.
I did vote to remain in Europe, simply because coming out seemed an unnecessary faff.
And it was and still is a faff.
PR for sure.
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@Stephen
Hello Stephen and regards to your wife.
Hope you had a good time.
Mrs Zed and I haven't been away yet, as Mrs Zed is awaiting cataract surgery....Now scheduled for July 26th.
Away in September hopefully.
Maybe Trade and Bro D are on vacation too.
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@RationalMadman
Maybe he's a democrat because he's a supporter of democracy.
Though one would hope that all Americans support democracy.
Especially after Trumpets brief fascist excursion.
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