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Cakegender is good.

HLGBTC.....Q.

Q. What's your favourite cake?

Lovely ship.

Dimensions are merely a concept inspired by human necessity.

If there is no observer, then there is nothing to be observed.

So a universe is simply a representation of time space and matter, created within and transferred from, one organic computer to another organic computer. Perhaps utilising an inorganic computer or some other medium of data transfer.

Light and sound waves become electro-chemical signals which are converted into internal imagery.

So actually, our universe is always a simulation.

And the dimensions of our brains are sort of small melon sized.

Of course a small melon is also always a simulation.

Was that from 1 to 2.

And I like the term "wedge issues".....Does that mean what I think it does?

And trans-men in women's bathrooms seems a tad hypocritical.....Though I suppose that might depend on whether they can piss standing up.

Notice that one used the they pronoun, so as not to offend.

Notice that I used the one pronoun, so as not to offend myself.

I am slowly getting the hang of this gender thing.....(No pun or double-entendre intended).

Prediction with hindsight is saying I told you so when you already know.

Whether or not lockdowns were too long is really a decision for politicians, taking into account all relative issues, including economics.

I personally think (from a U.K. perspective), that decisions were correct and recovery was good.

And as I stated, I agree that an astute pessimist could have made a strong prediction in the run up to the Russia Ukraine crisis.

Hang on Deb.

Sounds  dodgy to me.

Who sold you this package of sunny eternal bliss?

Was it a hot dude in a hooded skin tight red PVC cat suit with big horns and a three pronged weapon?

Possibly going by the name of Lucy Fernandez.

Just observations.

Gender is fast becoming the new religion.

Light entertainment is certainly now the realm of biodiversity.

And heterosexuality is fast becoming the new perversion.....Unless it's ethnically diverse of course.

Advertising is currently very keen on the stereotypical butch/femme L couple (not aggressive looking  butch fatties though, but more of a stylised hair and clothing thing), for promoting  progressive lifestyle commodities. Also with quite a strong emphasis on ethnic diversity.

And the above, may only apply locally to Western Liberal style societies.

Be diverse, have fun.

For sure.

First cause is,

Magic.

But nonetheless,

Rules out,

Infinite existence.

Catch 22.

Well obviously it would have been foolish to think that the Covid pandemic wouldn't affect  National and  Global economies.

But as I sated previously, we can all predict relative inflation with hindsight.

OK. So history should tell us to expect periods of global instability. But I 'm not sure how precisely we can predict such events.

Of course, it might all be one big global conspiracy.

Shit Deb.

This guy's omni for f**ks sake.

It's eternity in the wilderness for you buddy.

Your sister will be OK if she's still pure, if you get my drift....Any chance?

Because we know for certain that the big fella goes a bundle on purity.

Well only female purity as far as I know.

Not sure about all the other millions of genders kicking about these days.

Though for sure, Catholics go a bundle on choir boys.....Not really sure how that works out on judgement day either.

So you might be kicking about the wilderness with assorted dictators, other ne'er do wells and defrocked Fathers.....And all the rest who failed the test.

Most folk really.

Because heaven only fits 144000, or so I'm told.

Whereas infinite wilderness fits an infinite number of sinners.

Crazy but true hey?

And then there's the singing.....So make sure you die with cotton wool in your ears.

And I doubt that you'll need cash.

I'm assuming that souls simply absorb all their requirements from the atmosphere.

No worries then Deb....I'll see you in the infinite wilderness one day perhaps.

I'll be wearing a label that says Zed.

Though not sure how the concept of days pans out in the infinite wilderness.

Might be just one big endless existence.

I expect that heaven central is structured around daily worship and singing..........Which to be honest.......Sounds like HELL to me.

Will always be one part short of a whole.

1/10, 1/100, 1/1000, 1/10000 etc. etc. etc.

Interestingly:

Decimally one cannot cut a cake into three equal slices.

Whereas fractionally one can cut a cake into three equal slices.

Thirds as it were.

So if you are sharing a cake with two other people, always demand a third, rather than a decimal slice.

Or you might be .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 etc,  short of a calorie.

Nope.

I've peeped.

And it is all hats and Sunday best and tall stories.

Though the storyteller tries to be a tad more serious in big church, with a lot more references to sin, and a lot less tales of big boats and fish suppers.

Never saw any actual sacrificial calves or lambs.

Or blood.

But anyone that saw through the theo-political infant brainwashing, was a smart cookie in my book.

And for sure, any smart church has certainly got it's finger on the technological pulse. 

Economics is like monetary philosophy.

A lot of  specialist waffle, for those that indulge in the practice

Nonetheless, in the long term inflation can always be predicted to fluctuate, which is obvious....Though inflate it will, relative to it's cause..... And after the event pseudo-economists will say I told you so....Especially if they have a political axe to grind.

And ok so in fairness, I do suppose that any pessimist with an eye for geopolitical affairs could have predicted the recent global surge in inflation.

Optimists might have been more hopeful.

So, let's put you all to the test.

Geopolitically can you predict what will happen in the next 5 years?

And factoring in the next election also.

How will this effect U.S. domestic fiscal planning and outcomes?

All true.

Leave people in peace to do as they wish.

Though social order dictates that not everyone can do as they wish.

A/theistically logic is pretty obvious.

And for sure, physiologically/procreationally things have evolved/developed to not be straightforward.

I can just see the headline:

School Sugaring.....Youth brandishing bags of granulated sugar, force feeds two teachers and 10 children to death.

Youth arrested, and later executed by lethal injection of golden syrup.

I care not,

Who worships what,

Or,

Who thinks they are whatever.

But I enjoy discussing such things,

Openly.

Though some people seemingly,

Dislike the idea,

Of other people,

Having,

Alternative opinions.

Especially if,

Alternative opinions,

Are too logical.

For sure......There was a certain amount of energy in that statement.

It's bound to explode in someone's head.

Ok.

So we are a extra-thinking species.

But procreational drive itself doesn't require thought.

Thought modifies recreational possibilities over time, thereby the organism learns to contradict itself. 

All becomes real enough though.

And paedophilia and transgenderism are all varieties that stem from the same basic requirement.

The evolutionary inevitability of species evolution I suppose.

If it hadn't been us, it might have been a sentient carrot experiencing all this psychological trauma.

And GOD would be a cauliflower.

Just like me Deb.

Especially as my Dad was a fundamentalist atheist.

Sunday school was, getting the kids from under their feet for a few hours.

One can only guess why.

Not sure about fingers, but I guess so.

Anyway, they used to talk about Jesussy stuff and I would draw aeroplanes.

And for sure, big church was a no no.

Loved the churchyard though, many hours of fun playing there.

That must be why GOD designed grave stones.

And when we were big enough, we would  give the bell a ring.

Halcyon days.

Though I was never introduced to the artistic potential of potatoes and sponges.

And Santa hadn't invented BMX back then.

I would suggest that inflation is fuelled by global events.

And rather than viewing  it as a case of a right or wrong expectation........Current  inflation was in fact, unpredictable.

Spot on.

Perhaps we should do away altogether, with the silly convention of talking to each other.....And just wave and/or smile or scowl.

Device addicts are just about at that point anyway. (Let's be fair, device addiction is the new normal).

And I never did get the French language, with all those m and f words.

Though in terms of pronouns and in all seriousness:

Referring to One singular and They plural is quite an old convention.

And satirically, does away with all that needless under the trousers/skirt confusion.

And speaking of  gender neutral non-presumptive dress code. Perhaps we should all wear green Burkas...But definitely not pink or blue, as that would be seen as  far too provocative and/or offensive.......And in all seriousness once again, non-verbal communication is just as definitive as pronouns are.

@Poly.

Conduct is demonstrably variable.

From reasonable all the way to " f****** s*** ".

Self restraint is perhaps preferable to a restraining order.

I personally think that moderators do a good job.

Over-moderating would be overbearing.

And feigning offence is a cowardly tactic.

Base reality is that which isn't latterly conceived.

I'm basically attempting to distinguish between what is and isn't made up.

Though as I stated, all becomes real in application.

So one contradiction is the difference between that which is made up and that which isn't made up.

In terms of sexuality, the base reality would be the procreational drive.

How we apply said instinct varies greatly, relative to a whole gamut of ongoing physiological and social pressures.

And also, how we apply Law to said instinct is affected in the same way by ongoing social pressures.

(Physiological pressures  are a separately contentious moot point.)

Nonetheless, in terms of base reality, nothing is actually right or wrong.

Right and wrong are concepts that may or may not have become established socially , but certainly not globally standardised, and also modified greatly over time.

The two issues that you refer to, are obvious examples of how social acceptability has modified and therefore contradicted itself over a relatively short period of time.

What is socially  right and wrong for Athias now, would probably not have been right and wrong for Athias's forebears a few hundred years ago.

Nor will it be for Athias's descendants a few hundred years from now.

But never mention the P word.

Always use the Q word.

Well stated Deb.

Which one?

Q. What is the definition of a legal immigrant.

A.  A rich one, that looks the part.

Speak for yourself in religious speak if you wish.

Adultery is a concept relative to a concept relative to a concept relative to recreational sex derived of  procreational sex.

And I expect that the average practising Christian is as sinful and prone to adultery as the average atheist is.

Let's be honest.........Your Christian GOD started it all by fucking a married virgin.

Ironic that we as a mammalian species are reliant on the mammaries of other mammals, to provide milk so that we can reduce it to powder, so that we can rehydrate it and feed it to our infants.

Suck breasts and remove the middle men/women/bovine.

I was reared on breast milk and so were my kids.

So whatever happened to women's bazookas?

Have they evolved to be nothing more than a tactile plaything.?

I know.

And the Orange Clown wanted to ban Jonny Foreigner from coming to join a Nation of Jonny Foreigners.

What a killjoy hey?

Maybe.

But religious speak always seems to come with a lot of accusations of sin.

I used to go there regularly on a Friday and Saturday evening, when I was in my late teens.

You mean like McDonald's.

Love it.

Is that similar to going down fox holes on a mars bar that has nothing specific to rule in a metaphor.

Apologies on a wet Sunday morning.

Hey, it's just a statistically tiny percentage of  globally irrelevant dead kids.

What's all the fuss about.

Just like we see Ukrainian/Russian mutual slaughter as nothing more than Internet entertainment.

Bang Bang you're dead.....So what.

Have the gun, feel the gun, go masturbate.

Satirical but true.

@Poly.

# 96......Makes very little sense.

@Incel.

And tithing was basically income tax taken by a State/Society that was essentially overseen by religion.

And try not to cough when the Vicar/Priest/Pastor or whatever is telling you that you have all been naughty boys and girls.

And don't forget to sing along.

Lah de dah de bollocksy bollocks.

Though if you go to Buddhist Church today, you only need to remember to go,

OHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM etc etc.

Kung Fu is optional.

Are we not programmed?

Reasonably so I suppose, but you are still finding it difficult to separate the human from the Alternative Intelligence.

I'm pretty sure that eventually Another Intelligence, wholly independent of it's initiators, will evolve.

As for reproducing/mimicking sounds, I would suggest that independent organic organisms do just that.

Essentially inputting, assessing and outputting data, utilising an onboard electrochemically powered organic computer, to recreate and output sound.

Not a million miles away from an onboard electrically/chemically powered inorganic/hybrid computer doing the same.

The future is out there, and can only be guessed at.

And complexities of sound which we are subject to/input, and might or might not decide to regard as music or music  of a certain genre, are just  evolved  and established variable data analysis programmes.

Variable by of virtue of species evolution, though technological globalisation has resulted in a more eclectic appreciation of sound as music.

I won't ignore you.

Good morning Intel.

When the forum gets a bit quiet, where better to  offload some mental energy, other than here .

Long may it last.

Let's see if we can get to a 100 pages.

OK.

But as I see it A.I. is independent intelligence.

So to write a code to mimic, is to programme........And therefore, neither intelligent in it's own right, nor independent.

I was questioning whether a wholly independently evolved technological A.I. would regard variable sound waves as music either pleasant or unpleasant, or just as another electronic signal to be logically interpreted.

And music to ones ears is sound, which we then convert to noise.....Which for sure, we may or may not regard as music.

Nonetheless, a humans basic appreciation of musical sound, is no more or less this process.

Time/line is infinite.

 

Backwards anyway.

Though now, now, now, now, now, now, etc.

Is located at the front.

And hominids closely followed by GODS and cash,

Given the infinite state of backwardsness,

Are not perceivably, not at the point of now.

Though for the purposes of demonstration,

And representatively only,

One Could draw the longest line that one could fit onto a black/white/multi-ethnic board,

And place the latter (hominids, GODS and cash) approximately 50mm behind the former (now).

And if one was really clever ,

One could leave a gap at the front,

And every ten thousand years or so,

Increase the length of the line by 1mm.

Is 10% of infinity,

Infinitely 10%?

LOL.

So you can unequivocally prove this then?

Ooops......All except a GOD.....Your GOD that is....Very convenient.

Which I'm assuming is the Christian GOD.....That began only 2000 and a bit years ago.......A few billion years after the Universe began.

Ummmm.....Something doesn't quite add up there, does it?

Sounds like the same old same old, non-sensical, fundamentalist Christian argument. The one that refuses to accept, that science trumps folk tales when it comes to explaining Universal history.

Not that anyone can satisfactorily explain a Universal beginning.

It was a GOD what did it......Well, we can refer to a moment of creation as anything I suppose....Call it BOOM or call it GOD or call it ALAN or call it KYLIE.

You choose.

Of course:

Atheism is actually, more reasonable than theism.

And morality is a variable assumption.

And if a universe couldn't POP,

Then a GOD couldn't POP.

60 pages and still no further forwards then.

Though maybe a universe went BOOM BANGA BANG.

And a GOD POPPED into someone's head a few billion years later.

Now this sounds reasonable to me.

In creating the above statement you have in fact contradicted yourself. 

Because said statement is inherently non-ignorant.

Sort of.....Look at me everyone....And though I may not respond narratively, I will always react internally.....Thereby I cannot actually ignore you.

To ignore is to be aware of something to ignore.

Shed no tears.

The duration of matter bounded by it's own potential, within a singular occurrance.

There may or may not be more than one universe of course, especially  if one regards the potential of time and space to be limitless.

@Poly.

I have quite  eclectic tastes in both music and art....And admiration for skilled musicians and artists.

But for sure, have no taste for contrived religion. Other than as a counterpoint to my personal understanding, within a discussion and debate framework.

Though dancing naked around a camp fire at full moon, might be quite liberating.

As for the dull old picture in question and the ensued wheelchair bound, transvestic cake performance.

I find the latter much more meaningful.

Staring at a dingy old portrait and going WOW, just doesn't register with me at all.....I'm pretty sure, that most people who do it, just do it because they feel that they ought to do it.

Though you may actually be correct in suggesting a link between atheism and non-conformity....Especially as a response to formative conditioning.

For sure, within a contrived legal framework.

Which doesn't necessarily take into account base reality.

We seem to casually assume that we have exceeded base reality.

But we clearly haven't.......Far from it.

Which is not to say that everything is not real.

Including the necessity of selective social ignorance within a contrived legal framework.

Which of course, doesn't always work for everyone though.

Whereby we end up with glaring contradictions.

For example:

Oh dear, poor gender dysphoric, lets give you all the support and medical help we can, and cut your dick off.

Bastard pervert, let's lock you up and cut your dick off....Preferably without an anaesthetic.

Have you read the whole thread?

I seriously consider things, but like to throw in the odd bit of cynicism and satire for good measure.

And I would suggest that race supremacy is a more extreme  extension of natural discrimination. And very much a multi-ethnic condition.

Gun Nuts are very few in number, but very lethal in practice.

But if the ownership of a gun is an unalienable right.

Then you just have to be prepared to ignore the consequences of the NUT.

Which is what a lot of people are quite prepared to do.