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Jimmy Dore is one of those typical self righteous, pseudo-comedic, celebrity pseudo-politicians.

I admit that I used to laugh with them.

But they soon got very repetitive and tedious.

 

Got it.

Exactly.

A woman's foetus a woman's choice.

So go shoot some Supreme Court Judges you good ole American folk.

Everyone's their own freedom fighter,

And therefore  should be free to fight for their own idea of freedom.

Or would you deny them this freedom?

No one in particular singled out.

Hypocrisy is a prerequisite of survival.

And inevitably we're talking two general schools of thought.

Right, left, liberal, conservative.

And we're currently discussing the right to kill, right not to kill school of thought.

The school of thought that we all subscribe to, for all sorts of contradictory reasons.

Market the necessity for people to consume nutrients whilst watching a film.

And people will readily buy into it...At inflated prices.

Such is the gullibility of people.

The duration of a typical film is such, that one is unlikely to either starve or dehydrate.

Spot the pronoun?

War for sure.

Nuclear war even surer.

In the end  I envisage some sort of free data energy thing that exceeds the cellular membrane/protective shell.

Which is all tied up in the death and rebirth of the system and the continuation of the universal sequence.

Any.

As long as you do it in private.

Make a law,

Break the law,

But don't tell any one.

That will be $500 please.

Thank you.

Who gave Poly the thumb's up for "fuck off"?

Yep.

Protecting life by taking life....That's the baloney for sure.

And let's be honest...Most "right wing" baloney in the U.S. is underwritten by biblical bullshit....Or a selfish and hypocritical version thereof.

But hey...It makes for entertaining discussion.

Need an abortion....Gin and knitting needles was the old wives preferred method.

Nice.

I agree entirely.

It's what I refer to as material evolution.

Which I suppose in a way is predeterminism.

On another planet in another solar system, everything in essence, would be exactly the same.

And I suppose that directly or indirectly energy is extracted from a star.

Though from the ultimate negentropy scrapers point of view, any cosmic energy source will do?

Pro-life is a contradiction in terms.

Because one cannot be truly pro-life and be alive.

Because death sustains life.

All that pro-lifers are doing is narrowing down life to mean one insignificant blob of hominid mucus.

And the same people will probably be gun fanatics.

Sure.

But it won't be in all States.

Is it illegal to shoot cats?

Is it eternal damnation for pro-lifers that shoot cat's?

OK.

So put this into some sort of bigger context.

If all people were truly pro-life then there would be no people.

Pro-lifers are selectively moral relative to specific data conditioning.

Death sustains life.

It's the way the system works. 

Define negentropy scraper.

There's more than one way to skin a cat.

Especially if there is big demand and a buck to be made.

Hmmm.

So in a nutshell, what did Joshua say.

Then J was the son of a GOD born of a surrogate mother and was therefore neither Jewish nor Chinese.

Unless you are saying that J is a fraud, and is actually the son of two human beings.

@Poly

Right and wrong are merely concepts.

As far as we actually know, there is no greater authority other than that of Universal fate.

Theist, is just your personal conclusion, and as far as we know, relates to nothing other than your personal conclusion.

Other than that, the blob of organic matter that is referred to as Poly is exactly what it is

AH....But it is a story.

Freudian slip.

Undoubtedly.

The subject of coal and oil was brought to mind recently, and in terms of material evolution It's quite a fortunate sequence of events.

The formation and laying down of reserves of energy for later extraction.

@Poly

Developmental irregularities will occur, which will inevitably lead to operational glitches.

Though I would suggest that spirituality as a physiological response is  quite normal, but often misinterpreted and therefore exaggeratedly defined.

We experience, we respond, we read too much into the experience.

Debating within this format is a very random affair, prone to all sorts of unregulated influences.

Voting is inevitably going to be biased, moderation is biased and whimsical, and ELO is a bit of statistical fancy.

Definitely not to be taken too seriously.

Best just to just enjoy the compositional and mental exercises and then move on to the next, when you have the time and your busy (real life) schedule allows of course.

Well...As ever Trade I don't see a GODS definition of sin.

Only your reinterpretation of an archaic human concept, relative to an archaic human concept.

So how do you interpret the concept of original sin and the fall of man?

It is somewhat contradictory when Adam was made in a GODS image, is it not?

As I see it biblical sin is all about the onset of intellectual overthink, and the consequent onset of human physical inhibitions.

As for the Commandments:

We have no way of knowing what more recent interpretations of some sort of code of conduct originally relate to. But they certainly have a an air of human style social authoritarianism about them. I see nothing GODLY in them. They are all about human conduct and the violation of human authority.

Unless GOD is extremely selfish and authoritarian of course......After all, we are made in his own image.....So to put it crudely, God is an arsehole and therefore so will we inevitably be.

And we have been genetically programmed to die, by GOD, which therefore in your eyes is murder. A contradictory GOD it would seem.

Religion is relatively harmless if practiced as a hobby. Like a Sunday morning sing song type of thing, or a bit of naked dancing in the woods.

Though it would seem that techno-evolution requires the broadest of gene pools and the cooperation of the best minds.

So where an ideological State intervenes  stymying global cooperation, this might inhibit progress.

But of course this might be a good thing.......Or even an inevitable thing.

It would depend upon what credence one gives to the notion of predeterminism.

Well I was being a tad unserious myself Doc.

You know the way this religious banter works.

A creation hypothesis based upon a 2000 year old fantasy tale, can say whatever is necessary.

No facts or evidence actually required.

So on behalf of Christianity..........I will suggest that Goddo's perfect universe perfectly contains perfect imperfections.

A straightforward couple of questions.

A. What exactly is sin?

B. How and why was/were such conclusions decided upon?

That's one way of looking at it.

Catholic, Protestant.

Same thing.

Ritualistic nonsense,

Accompanied by,

Different blarney.

Lives for their duration are.

And data modification may well occur, relative to anything.

Yes, it was a lovely day.

And the Earth was at a specific point of it's Solar Orbit, such that viewed from here, the duration between the sun rising and setting was at it's maximum.

And today, hopefully will be very similar but with a marginally shorter duration between sun rise and sun set.

And so on, until December 21st.

And so on.

Until such a time, when the Sun will eventually engulf the Earth.

And we will cease to be memories.

Unless we have escaped this Earthly prison.

Undoubtedly.

Exactly.

We've had motorised personal transport for how long?

150 years approx.

And now life would be soooooo intolerable if we didn't have such a luxury.

Typical human behaviour I suppose.

People often forget to use their legs these days.

Atheism is simply one of the many ways that data can be organised and stored within an organic human computer.

Atheist is simply one of the many words that is used to describe a human organic structure....One that houses an organic computer and organises certain data in a particular way.

Belief is another set of organised data, often relative to the above organic systems and their variable sequencing and storing of data.

Poly is as Poly does.

Their goal is to always find fault with others.

Seeking conciliation is futile, and demeans your good self in the process.

If you cannot understand the simplicity of the point is it worth me explaining?

Nonetheless:

People allude to the "State" as if it's some sort of separate entity.

When what they are actually alluding to is their dissatisfaction with their lowly position within a State, and their consequent  resentment of others who have attained a higher position. 

People are born neither Jim nor David.

Whereas people are born either as a sperm producer (m).

Or an egg producer (f)

Though developmental anomalies will occur.

But not to be confused with the development of sociological anomalies.

Whether or not one wishes to be referred to as male, female or a banana, doesn't make a blind bit of difference to the base categorisation.

m f......We all know what you are

other......Always an element of frisson.

LGBGTQetc......Boring.

What are you hoping to narrow down?

You know what a Senator is.

And you know what politics is.

And ism means, to behave accordingly, or in the manner of.

One often utilises ism as a means to sarcasm.

For sure.

I'm a firm believer in the idea that things will change appropriately, relative to social demand and availability. And social demand will slowly include the desire for sustainability, as old ideas die out and new ideas are transferred to the next generation.

But more importantly things will change, relative to the inevitability of material evolution. The process of everything, if you like.

True.

But I'm not sure how sustainable whales are, given the increased demand for energy these days.

We don't really need a miraculous breakthrough.

What we require is common sense over profit.....Yep I know, that's asking a lot.

The SUN bombards with 174 quadrillion watts of energy every day.....More than enough.

As a species we've developed a temporary obsession with fossil fuels, relative to our obsessive social need for energy, all relative to material evolution.

Petrol heads will soon become extinct, I guess.

Men who argue against gun control tend to have small penises....And fondling guns makes them cum in their pants.

And women have higher levels of testosterone and need to shave a lot....And fondling guns makes the cum in their pants.

And they all like to wear check shirts and baseball caps, and tend to have very cheesy pants.

The simple truth.

No more required.

Bongo....Hey Bingo how did that happen?

Bingo.....It must have been  be a GOD what did it.

Bongo....What's a GOD Bingo?

Bingo....It's the magic bloke what lives in the sky.

Bongo....Amazing....How do you know that?

Bingo....Bungo told me so.

Prostitutionism

And

Politicism.

Add two more to the list.

Categorisationism as it were.

Why didn't you?

Men developed GOD as a naive explanation for what they couldn't understand.

Some people still use the concept thus.

Data transfer and storage is a persistent human ability, and continually effects how we function as a social species.

In this respect, the intellectual difference between you and I, was founded in  how we were brainwashed/programmed as infants.

GOD necessary/no GOD necessary.

Ergo........Theist/Atheist.

No more/no less.

It's just another word with ism stuck on the end of it.

Here's one.

Suffixism.

Ism is a suffix is a suffixism is an ism.

I agree.

I'm 62 years of age, and I don't expect that my social niche will change.

By virtue of birth and upbringing, I am far more fortunate than a lot of my fellow earthlings.

I am content with the way things are.

I would suggest that the super-rich are no more content than I am.

There's only so much spare time in a day to be spent doing fun stuff, and I would be bored to tears floating about on a super-yacht all day.

Though I wonder how much time the super-rich get to spend on their super-yachts.