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@Swagnarok
If it was intended as a continuous proclamation, then on would have been an appropriate inclusion.
So the comma is best, otherwise we would have "flared with passion bearing witness of one accord".
As it is, we know that our beings flared with passion.
And we also know why our beings flared with passion.
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@FLRW
True.
Anyone that lets their judgements be clouded by unnecessarily foggy data, will inevitably be distracted.
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@Jeff_Goldblum
The acquisition and retention of wealth is a skill.
The inability to acquire and retain wealth is what it is, and so is resentment and jealousy.
If you could be on the 700 list, you would be.
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@FLRW
And daft Joe would exclaim.
JESUS CHRIST!
I noticed that you didn't even bother to test daft Joe.
Mass screening might have been more successful....Though I'm guessing that the culprit had already disappeared into the desert on his camel.
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@Athias
Converting external signalling into internal data assessment outcomes, is manipulation of a primary source.....Therefore a simulation of what we assume to be real and accurate incoming information.
Did I refer to "non-simulation"?........I will have to check back.....Though relative to the self, maybe self awareness could be regarded as non-simulation.
Interesting though.....Is self awareness simply a state of being, that requires no cognitive effort?
Why is "external" messaging relevant why is it even rational.
Well, being completely solipsistic.
"Rational" is what we individually conclude I suppose.
And external messaging is how we relate our awareness to something.
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@Tradesecret
Well I don't think that is regionally unusual even today.
So if we consider life expectancy 2000 years ago, coupled with probably no firm legal requirements. Then I think that it's fair to suggest that age was no limitation to sexual activity.
Mary of latter day picture book depiction is somewhat misleading.
By todays Western standards, GOD was a slick Arabian pedo.....Interesting that people still worship him then.
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@Tradesecret
To be honest, on second reading not confusing at all.
Because a GOD concept is just that, and is only bounded by the limits of human imagination.
So GOD is a person then?.....As I thought....An imaginary person who multitasks.....Omni as it were.
And Jesus may or may not have been real...And if he was, we have know way of knowing who is real dad was, maybe it was daft Joe, but I'm guessing it was some slick Arab. But he certainly wasn't his own dad.
And if I remember correctly, said biblical character never fathered any children.....In fact, one could propose that given the characters behaviour, the biblical authors were probably hinting at a sort of LGBT scenario. Especially given that the bible is rife with sexual metaphors.
Interesting how humans acquired intellect and then overthought procreational urgency.
As for holy spirit....Gin, whiskey, vodka or goose-bumps.....Take your pick.
So:
GOD the Arabian lothario.
GOD the son of someone, obviously.
And GOD the one that gave Mary goose-bumps.
The trinity in a nutshell.
My imaginative interpretation of the biblical mythology, which may differ from your imaginative interpretation of the biblical mythology.
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@Tradesecret
#1.
Yep.
All very confusing.
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@Tradesecret
Painful one would imagine.
So what was Mary's age?
Is this mentioned in the Bible?
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@Tradesecret
Undoubtedly some people will assume that a GOD might be listening.
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@Athias
Why would "totality" be expanded beyond the internal data manipulations and simulations of said organisms?
I think that is what I was asking you.
Though I think that is what we think we do.
It's a perplexing dilemma......To be reasonably certain that we do actually participate in a universe.....Whilst at the same time being aware that the outcomes of sensory perception only provides us with a simulated account of what we are certain is real.
Define "fact".
Good point.
One might suggest that within the above context, at best a fact is something we are reasonably certain of, relative to awareness of our existence and our ability to presumably simulate an accurate account of external messaging.
For example.....One looks and one sees, and one is reasonably certain that what one sees is accurate and real.
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@coal
You are as much the State as anything else is.
How or where you find a niche within a State is down to you and your inherent ability.
You may conclude that other individuals have achieved a higher position within a State, and therefore you might feel resentful or jealous.
But I would suggest that others simply adapt to, and take advantage of, a position relative to their inherent ability.
Me....I have a comparatively lowly niche within the British State, but I am nonetheless quite content.
High status does not necessarily come with contentment.
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@Athias
Are fictional universes a part of our universe? Yes, fictional universes are part of everything/totality.
Within the context of everything and totality, when is a part, fictional/simulated or otherwise, not a fact?
Is not internal data manipulation and simulation, in fact the extent of an organisms totality?
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@Castin
@Tradesecret
@rosends
@ludofl3x
Prayer.
Utilising one's ability to either visually input and repeat data, or recall stored data and convert it into a narrative, either internally or projected externally as sound.
Something that humans sometimes attribute temporary significance to.......A bit like ordering a meal from a Chinese restaurant.
Or like the above discussion, in fact.
And then do something else, and forget about the prayer, or digest the fried rice.
Humans are brilliant at doing stuff.
And if temporary satisfaction is gained peaceably from any recreational activity such as praying, eating Chinese style food with friends, debating or watching pornography, then who is to criticize.
Though criticizing others, is yet another example of how humans acquire satisfaction from their ability to store and recall complex data.
So in all sincerity......Enjoy your praying and your debating and your meal and your porn video.
Regards Zed
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@SirAnonymous
Did you know Lincoln or Washington personally.
Or is your favouritism base purely upon biased historical information.
Trump and Dubya were my favourites, with their hilarious stand up routines.
Do you remember the disinfectant joke....Brilliant.
Dubya is still treading the boards, saw a cracking routine the other day which ended with a brilliant Iraq punchline.
Dan boy Quayle would have been a brilliant comedy President, that gormless persona was brilliant.
Brilliant.
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@Bones
Yep.
Why didn't Mr Omni get it right in the first place.
Though if you think about it, the necessity of heaven is a direct result of sin.
So no sin, no heaven required.
So heaven was clearly Mr Omni's secondary consideration, relative to the realisation of his initial blunder.
Creating ordinary folk with dual purpose systems, as it were.
Though why create protruding milk producing mammary gear and all the other internal procreational stuff?
And Mr Omni then comes along a few thousand years later and f**ks a virgin.
So sin eventually got the better of Mr Perfect too.
Let's face it, sin is all about bonking.
So create the means to sin, then expect the sin Mr Hypocritical.
Though:
Just proposing a reasonable alternative, to the myths, legends and tall stories option....Perhaps it was all made up by a few blokes, a few thousand years ago.
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@coal
Most people are ordinary.
Two arms, two legs and a head type of thing.
Most with the internal ability to interpret an old narrative any way that they choose.
As exemplified above.
One would have hoped that the U.S. was suitably civilised now, whereby gangs of armed ordinary folk were an unnecessary requirement.
Though maybe paranoia is still socially inherent....It would seem that way.
And of course there is also the pseudo-sexual attraction of handling and discharging lethal weaponry to consider.
I doubt that the "framers" gave much thought to the psychological instability of "ordinary people" under intense emotional pressure.
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@Bones
True.
A Trans simulation might compare with an onboard blue print of femininity or masculinity, but is never quite the same.
I had a recent non-interactive encounter with a very attractive persona, but it just didn't tally with my onboard recognition systems.
Though maybe systems will evolve relative to social normalization.
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@3RU7AL
Omnis est cogitatio.
Dubitatio est cogitatio.
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Witchcraft is a myth.
Though some people take myths seriously.
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@Poly
They can never have an abortion.
I expect that people once thought that it would NEVER be possible to remove someone's heart and lungs and stick a different set back in in.
Never say never.
A Uterus is no more or less a transferrable item.
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@Kritikal
Yep. I like that.
Though I still like on the old Descartian adage.
Cogito Ergo Sum.
Ergo cogito, ergo omnia sunt.
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@SirAnonymous
Is mathematics always representative of reality?
So can parts diminish infinitely so that there is always one part remaining.....Provocatively we can call it the GOD PART if you like.
Or are you saying that ultimately parts cease to exist......Therefore potential is in fact, finite.
To know the answer might explain something.
Though I suppose that fractionally a part is always one part.
So what we are questioning, is can a part be fractionally reduced to a finite point of non-existence.
If not then .9 recurring will never equal 1, because as I stated previously there will always be one part.
AH!......Is that what you are saying?
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@Reece101
@Intelligence_06
Consciousness is a physiological state, as I described above.....An energized organic computer.
All brain generated imagery is a conversion of external data such as light and sound, into a mental picture or noise.
Other sensory responses also occur which are assessed and utilised in the same way.
As such we always simulate an external reality, and reasonably assume that what we simulate is accurate.
For sure, the organic computer is an amazing piece of kit.....When it's switched on.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
What's the plan?
Redemption was always a big earner.
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@Kritikal
Cake or pie.
Yum Yum.
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@Intelligence_06
True.
Consciousness is a simulation of an assumed reality, derived from incoming sensory signalling via an energized organic substrate.
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@Kritikal
Cakegender is good.
HLGBTC.....Q.
Q. What's your favourite cake?
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@3RU7AL
Dimensions are merely a concept inspired by human necessity.
If there is no observer, then there is nothing to be observed.
So a universe is simply a representation of time space and matter, created within and transferred from, one organic computer to another organic computer. Perhaps utilising an inorganic computer or some other medium of data transfer.
Light and sound waves become electro-chemical signals which are converted into internal imagery.
So actually, our universe is always a simulation.
And the dimensions of our brains are sort of small melon sized.
Of course a small melon is also always a simulation.
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@Kritikal
Was that from 1 to 2.
And I like the term "wedge issues".....Does that mean what I think it does?
And trans-men in women's bathrooms seems a tad hypocritical.....Though I suppose that might depend on whether they can piss standing up.
Notice that one used the they pronoun, so as not to offend.
Notice that I used the one pronoun, so as not to offend myself.
I am slowly getting the hang of this gender thing.....(No pun or double-entendre intended).
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@cristo71
Prediction with hindsight is saying I told you so when you already know.
Whether or not lockdowns were too long is really a decision for politicians, taking into account all relative issues, including economics.
I personally think (from a U.K. perspective), that decisions were correct and recovery was good.
And as I stated, I agree that an astute pessimist could have made a strong prediction in the run up to the Russia Ukraine crisis.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
WOAH!!!!!!
Hang on Deb.
Sounds dodgy to me.
Who sold you this package of sunny eternal bliss?
Was it a hot dude in a hooded skin tight red PVC cat suit with big horns and a three pronged weapon?
Possibly going by the name of Lucy Fernandez.
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Just observations.
Gender is fast becoming the new religion.
Light entertainment is certainly now the realm of biodiversity.
And heterosexuality is fast becoming the new perversion.....Unless it's ethnically diverse of course.
Advertising is currently very keen on the stereotypical butch/femme L couple (not aggressive looking butch fatties though, but more of a stylised hair and clothing thing), for promoting progressive lifestyle commodities. Also with quite a strong emphasis on ethnic diversity.
And the above, may only apply locally to Western Liberal style societies.
Be diverse, have fun.
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@3RU7AL
A Zedku for 3RU7AL
For sure.
First cause is,
Magic.
But nonetheless,
Rules out,
Infinite existence.
Catch 22.
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@cristo71
Well obviously it would have been foolish to think that the Covid pandemic wouldn't affect National and Global economies.
But as I sated previously, we can all predict relative inflation with hindsight.
OK. So history should tell us to expect periods of global instability. But I 'm not sure how precisely we can predict such events.
Of course, it might all be one big global conspiracy.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
I reckon God didn't see me steal it.
Shit Deb.
This guy's omni for f**ks sake.
It's eternity in the wilderness for you buddy.
Your sister will be OK if she's still pure, if you get my drift....Any chance?
Because we know for certain that the big fella goes a bundle on purity.
Well only female purity as far as I know.
Not sure about all the other millions of genders kicking about these days.
Though for sure, Catholics go a bundle on choir boys.....Not really sure how that works out on judgement day either.
So you might be kicking about the wilderness with assorted dictators, other ne'er do wells and defrocked Fathers.....And all the rest who failed the test.
Most folk really.
Because heaven only fits 144000, or so I'm told.
Whereas infinite wilderness fits an infinite number of sinners.
Crazy but true hey?
And then there's the singing.....So make sure you die with cotton wool in your ears.
And I doubt that you'll need cash.
I'm assuming that souls simply absorb all their requirements from the atmosphere.
No worries then Deb....I'll see you in the infinite wilderness one day perhaps.
I'll be wearing a label that says Zed.
Though not sure how the concept of days pans out in the infinite wilderness.
Might be just one big endless existence.
I expect that heaven central is structured around daily worship and singing..........Which to be honest.......Sounds like HELL to me.
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Will always be one part short of a whole.
1/10, 1/100, 1/1000, 1/10000 etc. etc. etc.
Interestingly:
Decimally one cannot cut a cake into three equal slices.
Whereas fractionally one can cut a cake into three equal slices.
Thirds as it were.
So if you are sharing a cake with two other people, always demand a third, rather than a decimal slice.
Or you might be .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 etc, short of a calorie.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Nope.
I've peeped.
And it is all hats and Sunday best and tall stories.
Though the storyteller tries to be a tad more serious in big church, with a lot more references to sin, and a lot less tales of big boats and fish suppers.
Never saw any actual sacrificial calves or lambs.
Or blood.
But anyone that saw through the theo-political infant brainwashing, was a smart cookie in my book.
And for sure, any smart church has certainly got it's finger on the technological pulse.
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@Tejretics
@cristo71
@Kritikal
Economics is like monetary philosophy.
A lot of specialist waffle, for those that indulge in the practice
Nonetheless, in the long term inflation can always be predicted to fluctuate, which is obvious....Though inflate it will, relative to it's cause..... And after the event pseudo-economists will say I told you so....Especially if they have a political axe to grind.
And ok so in fairness, I do suppose that any pessimist with an eye for geopolitical affairs could have predicted the recent global surge in inflation.
Optimists might have been more hopeful.
So, let's put you all to the test.
Geopolitically can you predict what will happen in the next 5 years?
And factoring in the next election also.
How will this effect U.S. domestic fiscal planning and outcomes?
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@Lemming
All true.
Leave people in peace to do as they wish.
Though social order dictates that not everyone can do as they wish.
A/theistically logic is pretty obvious.
And for sure, physiologically/procreationally things have evolved/developed to not be straightforward.
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@3RU7AL
I can just see the headline:
School Sugaring.....Youth brandishing bags of granulated sugar, force feeds two teachers and 10 children to death.
Youth arrested, and later executed by lethal injection of golden syrup.
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@Lemming
A Zedku for
I care not,
Who worships what,
Or,
Who thinks they are whatever.
But I enjoy discussing such things,
Openly.
Though some people seemingly,
Dislike the idea,
Of other people,
Having,
Alternative opinions.
Especially if,
Alternative opinions,
Are too logical.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Words have power
For sure......There was a certain amount of energy in that statement.
It's bound to explode in someone's head.
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