zedvictor4

@Poly

Do you not mean Ostara?

The time when you worship Eostre.

It's only not connected if you choose not to connect it.

Have you never heard of satire?

One opinionated young man high on testosterone not necessarily representative of the wider Muslim community.

Read the headlines Stephen, people of all ethnic persuasions go around fatally stabbing on a regular basis.....No ideology necessary.

Just keep your head down mate and you should be OK.

Are you another selective moralist?

Or are you a hermit that lives in a remote cave,

Who only absorbs water and nutrients from stalactites.

Death sustains life.......It's the inevitability of survival.

And only caring about human life, is human bias.

And only caring about certain foetuses and certain people is hypocritical.

And don't quote the Bible

Because the Bible is awash with moral contradictions.

People have always had twisted ideology.

It's a people thing.

I agree.

I've got an old red tartan one and as I prefer tea I just use it for hot water and keep the teabags separate.

Though I do occasionally have hot chocolate, which stays hot during.

And I always wash it out afterwards.

Before the vacuum people drank a lot more cider.

Is this helpful?

Sex is inherent function.

And marriage is evolved but unnecessary/necessary conceptual non-sense/sense.....Based upon factors other than the necessities of sexual function

And this is 2022, and people still keep teaching 2000 year old biblical BS....One of the drawbacks of highly evolved systems of memory and manipulation.

All good fun I suppose.

Especially if next doors missus is up for it.

Just watch out for piously perverted stone throwers though.........They're just repressed and jealous and can only get their kicks from throwing stones at women.....Because her indoors is pregnant yet again, or has just generally let herself go, as it were.

Call me cynical if you like.

Haven't read the whole thread so don't know if you're a fellow cynic, religious nutter or just a moderate sort of questioning type person.

As ever.....GOD principle sound.....Floaty about bloke not so.

I don't think that Jenner is particularly media shy.

If one  doesn't want people to know and consequently express opinions....Then one should keep ones gob shut.

No....Socialism is a specific political theory. 

None of the States that you listed function in that way.....They are all a part of the global "capitalist" system.

How people look out for each other in terms of social fairness/care, is a separate issue influenced by other geographic, demographic and political factors.

Is it really fair to compare the U.S.A with Estonia, or even Germany or Canada.

Better to compare the U.S.A with Russia......Which would be your preferred destination?

I'm pretty sure I know who Estonia and Germany would prefer to have as allies, especially in terms of fairness.

Ten reasonable places to live for sure.

Same hierarchical systems, but with a fairer collective mind set.

Nothing truly socialist though.

I'm perfectly happy here in the U.K.

Tolerance has to evolve....Means exactly what it says.

As I suggested, tolerance has certainly evolved in the UK within my lifetime.

Or you could just label it as It.

Or let's just think up a new word.

Hmmmmmmmm: 

How about.

If you think about it, every regime is basically the same....Based upon natural hierarchy and inherent selfishness.

It's simply a case of where you choose to stick your ism.

Marxist socialism was a hypocritical delusion of the bourgeoise and has never successfully been implemented.....Good intentions immediately became the same old grind for the proletariat, more than likely brutally so.

Can you think of any truly socialist States?.....Where everyone is equal and everything is shared......Nope it just doesn't work like that, to implement and maintain such a State, also requires a system of governance and enforcement.....Same old, same old.

A thought is a thought, relative to an individual.

"Half baked" is a thought relative to you. 

It's a tad arrogant, if we expect everyone to think as we do.

Thoughts are derived from past experiences and will therefore vary relative to conditioning.

Tolerance has to evolve..........Tolerance cannot be forced upon people, otherwise outcomes are more likely to be negative.

Though I'm reasonably confident that more and more people do think things through.

I'm a moderate and do not pander to media, I make my own observations and come to my own conclusions.

And Jaimaica seeking $10 billion in so called reparations is a race baiting political show.   And let's be frank, where would most of that money end up if they got it.

Nope...The perpetuation of the old colonial race game is very good for business.

And "sociological thing" for sure....That was my point......Don't expect to click your fingers and change humanity in an instant.....How many millions of years has it taken to get to this point?

Perhaps you indulge in race baiting political shows more than I do.

Biden remains a clear example to the sane, that old age doesn't necessarily equate to competency.

Just as Trump should remain a clear example to the sane, that the shady world of big business doesn't necessarily equate to Presidential competency.

Keep taking the disinfectant.

Is what is known as Dictating.

Data processing and analysis relative to acquired conditioning is simply what we do, so not irrational.

But for sure we can also modify our responses relative to ongoing data acquisition and processing.

That is to say, learn to be more tolerant of others.

Though as my specific example suggests, discrimination is far from a black and white issue relative to historical European colonialism.

We've moved on a few hundred years and several generations since then, to a point where the boot of the black and white issue in terms of racism  is now very much on the the other foot too....If not more so.

The black and white thing is now politically inspired big business for some, so there would certainly be a lot to lose if everyone shook hands and agreed to move on.

Though let's be fair, most moderate people of all skin tones, moved on a long time ago.....Species evolution in progress as it were.

Nonetheless my brief  analysis is perhaps more applicable to current U.K. society.......Maybe in the U.S there is a greater possibility of a more insular and therefore polarized demographic relative to geographic scale.

Better a trusted authority than an Orange Clown.

So said the Moderate core, to the bedevilment of the Conservative extremists.

Long live the Moderates.

The human race is what it is and behaves primarily according to it's instinctive programming.

Though intellectual development has allowed us to exceed our base programming, we are nonetheless still slaves to it.

In terms of species development and also intellectual and material development, I would suggest that it is wholly inappropriate to refer to the human species as retarded.....Retarded compared to what?

Within the context of the organic human structure, we simply cannot exceed the ongoing limitations of evolutionary development.

And the biblical hypothesis was a perfect example of how intellectually limited we once were.

And the fact that so many people still look to an archaic hypothesis for answers, is a perfect example of how slow intellectual progress actually is....Despite what we may have achieved technologically.

Everyone thinks and everyone discriminates, so if you include "thoughts" within your analysis, then by definition everyone is racist.

I would suggest that racism is best defined as a negative outward expression of thoughts, relative to a perceivable difference.

Old fashioned Joke:

And Englishman, a Scotsman and an Irishman are sitting in a bar.

None of them is any the wiser until they open their mouths.

Are you absolutely moral regarding the preservation of life....... Or selectively moral relative to social conditioning?

Space and Time are intangible  possibilities.....No more, no less....Though humans typically like to redefine and therefore overcomplicate the base reality of possibility.

The crux of all issues is matter, and it's associated events and duration.

If not, then explain how No Space and No time is a possibility.

Civil Wars were commonplace.....Things got sorted......Still do I suppose.

In so much as I don't give any credence to religious concepts that involve humanesque or animalesque deities.

GOD principle sound though, in so much as (creation?) matter and evolution may be purposeful.

Creation is a tough one , as it relies upon a something from nothing principle.

Maybe recreation.

But a beginning is unimaginable.

F**k Russia and Ukraine.

F**k Domestic US politics

F**k Global pandemics and environmental catastrophe.

In fact, f**k everything else, because.

Americans have got a huge crisis to deal with....Depp and Heard!

We all identify it in exactly the same basic data processing way.

You just jumped in with the same old black and white historically motivated, socio-political rhetoric.

No one is black and no one is white.

We were segregated by the virtues of planetary evolution and we learnt to perceive and make distinctions, and we continue to do so.

And until such times as everyone is a clone, we will continue to perceive and make distinctions.

Yep isn't it ironic.

The human problem is humans.

On one tiny organic coated speck of cosmic dust in the middle of who knows where.

Because?

So does anything really matter beyond the limits of our self contained illusions?

Fertilizer for sure.

What about next week?.....As there's no guarantee that you will even make it beyond that.

So many people save for the future, but fail to make it there.

I did say the basics.

And was simply trying to point out the distinction between words and comprehension.

Skating.

Tried it once,

Didn't like it.

Concentrating too hard,

On staying upright.

Never heard the song.

Selective morality.

The hypocrisy of the people.

So sit in a cave and only absorb drip fed nutrients from stalactites.

Here Here.

The body is,

It's functions are,

Evolved from matter,

Or so I think.

A Racist is a person that outputs a negative response to a normal internal response relative to a perceivable difference.

Everyone discriminates internally.......Just as you discriminated against Deb, albeit not maliciously.

Though let's be honest, Racism is largely a socio-political weapon these days and more generally defined as a Light and Dark issue, wherein light is the aggressor and dark is the victim......A shame but true......But one of the disadvantages/advantages of our ability to memorise and record the past. 

So are you a humanist?

Or just a hermit that lives in a shack, who only ever invests..... And spends only the bare minimum in order to survive?

So what is the long term goal?......Given the brief amount of time we have on this planet.

For sure...We understand the basics of HOW knowledge/data is acquired, stored and remembered....But that's not a words and grammar issue per se.

People have different ways of expressing themselves.

If you don't like what Deb says, then press the ignore button....Simple.

I personally, will associate with anyone that cares to associate with me.

The notion of Atheism is a transient notion, that doesn't in any way affect my day to day existence, or how I interact socially with others.

Trouble is we're very short on real, substantial facts.

The best that we can say about the Jesus character, is that a person relative to the said character, probably did exist.

And that said Jesus character was perhaps executed by the Roman State, for the crime of sedition.

Other more fanciful tales that promote super-natural intervention, are pretty typical theistic non-factual hypothesising.

In so much as, it must be a GOD what did it. 

And the successful spread of the new religion, or new religions *, is perhaps best explained by location and social, technological, intellectual, evolutionary development.

Though the other trouble, is that some people try to ignore the fact that our innate scientific ability has moved us on way beyond the real necessity for biblical style super-nature.

* Let's not overlook the same successful spread of other similar socio-religious ideologies.

Nor let us overlook ongoing older style super-natural hypotheses.

All backed up with with very unsound, unscientific non-factual pseudo-evidence.

A narrative in itself, is only proof of itself and does not necessarily contain facts.....Hence there is a tendency to end up with mythology.

As ever...GOD principle sound.....Floaty about bloke, not so.

So you're a materialist, who only sees value in money and possessions?

From a progressive evolutionists perspective, I suppose that is a reasonable proposition.

Though humanists might see value in other aspects of society.

In so much as one either thinks about thinking, or one doesn't think.

Good question.

One does marvel at the intricacies of organic systems.

Such programming has evolved?

Something for the Goddists to get hung up on.

Nice.

Good morning Mr Pie.

I too like old grumpy underbridge trolls.

And I also like pies.

If what constitutes a "Troll", is someone that doesn't agree with another persons  every whacky or illogical word, or all atheists.....Then you will find Trolls everywhere.

As far as I am concerned a "Troll" is a creature of Scandinavian folklore.

I therefore would have expected a certain person to be heavily into worshiping Trolls this weekend.

So where did the "xbox" come from?

Trouble is, all hypotheses rely on something from nothing. 

And "simulation" has implications beyond just an eternal possibility.

A simulation is a representation of something......Either the representation of a reality or the representation of a hypothesis.

Is it more likely that a simulator and a simulated universal scenario just happened to pop out of nowhere?

And of course, what is being simulated?

Epistemology is a self-contradicting unnecessity.

And empiricism to a greater or lesser extent, relies upon imagination.

And arbitrarily and primacy are equally as woolly.

Well that's my arbitrarily prime opinion of existentialism.

Though anyone is free to disagree...Just reshuffle the words and deal yourself a new hand.

You try saying kleptocracy when you've been awake for at least 30 minutes....LOL.

Women punching the f**k out of each other and men getting excited by it.

Once again I blame testosterone.

True.

The Bible was once a metaphor for ignorance.

But as a species  we were able to exceed our ignorance.

Nowadays the Bible is truly a metaphor for erroneous data transfer and programming.

Toffee Apple.

No there's something conflated if every a confectionary creation omnididn'twork.

Ok so lace it with poison or a little something as we say, and me and the various GODS will make merry.

And I will be happy to give the old girl with the goats horns my sticky lollipop.

And the beardy old guy with the beer belly and the leather pouch on his belt...High Priest...Yep...As a kite for sure.

Pants on, pants off....Hey we're not judgemental....It's that time of year.

Naked dancing time.

Thanks for looking after my pants Deb.