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For sure, we will release energy as we decay and are component parts are reduced to fundamental matter.

Or perhaps we will be cast into the fiery furnace wherein our component parts will be rapidly  reduced to fundamental matter.

Call it eternal damnation and rehabilitation if you like.

Only a clown wouldn't realise that it's already 2022.

It takes effort and joie de vivre to ride a bike.

And I would suggest that you underestimate the integrity of the American people.

Debateart:

Well organised discussion website.

Enjoy.

You either have a Bidenesque President, or a Putinesque President.

And Orangeman fancied himself in the latter role.....And the American electorate and the majority of politicians both Dem and Rep were having none of it.

Long live the moderate voice of the United States of America.

And cheap gasoline....GO get yourself a bike....It will do you the world of good.

So you think...But I would wager, a thought based on an inherent bias, rather than actually being related to a real understanding of fiscal policy.

And also irrelevant in respect of  the point I was making.....Orange Clown lost the previous election simply because people realised that he was actually an Orange Clown.

American President.....We're talking World Statesman who represents the U.S. globally, and the Orange guy was a World laughing stock.....Ok, so we have a laugh every time the old guy trips up the steps of Airforce 1......But at least he's taken more seriously as a politician.

Are there no decent straightforward honest candidates available any more?.....Well there probably are.....But they are far too boring for all the pre-election circus and razzamataz.

You're just trying to wind me up Doc.

I think I've already read that, and dismissed it as bogus.

Excuse me Mr and Mrs Catholic, is your sex better than everyone else's?........Why of course it is.

Excuse me Mr and Mrs Other Ideological Preference, is your sex better that everyone else's........Why of course not, Mr and Mrs Roman Catholic have by far the best sex.

LOL.

I admire your enthusiasm and self-confidence.

But there is something fundamentally amiss with the above statement.

And I will refrain from making any further comments concerning the article which is #1 of this thread.

Bidenmantooold of course

Orangeclownwasanorangeclown of course.

Put up a Republican with a modicum of common sense and you might stand half a chance.

Same applies to Democrats.

Last time it was a toss up between the really old reasonably sensible guy, and the not quite so old corrupt orange fool.

And you quite rightly ended up with the lesser of the two evils as it were.

Opinion: The Roman Catholic Church has never been right about anything really.

Although it is very good at making and hoarding wealth and not spending it on it's poorer members.

Native Americans were as native as dictated by the moment that they migrated from Northern Asia.

And then other people migrated from elsewhere and things changed.

And people continue to migrate, and things continue to change.

I think that Australia continues to undergo a similar process.

And the U.K has been experiencing the same process ever since boats were invented.

And trading goods has been an integral part of the process too.

Same old shit.

Every four years or so, one half of the population thinks that the other half inhabit a different planet, and vice versa.

Nonetheless:

Get up, bathroom, breakfast, work or some other activity to fill the time, lunch, work or some other activity to fill the time, home and relax or some other activity to fill the time, dinner, bed and so on until death.

Red hat, blue hat, spotty underpants.

Humans are brilliant.

Human stupidity is what it is.

Christianity as a contrived religious ideology does not require proof.

And some stupid people will inevitably take their ideological devotion to the ultimate extreme.

None of which provides actual proof of an existent godhead.

Just informs us of some of the whacky stuff humans get up to.

Realism not scepticism.

Trans men are women that think that they are men....Fine.

The big difference between the fundamental reality of physiology and the machinations of post natal psychology and modern medical and surgical intervention.

The reality is that a trans man will always be a trans man, rather than a naturally constructed sperm producer.

What it might say in a dictionary nowadays is simply what it might say in a dictionary nowadays.

And just for the record, I have absolutely no issues with the Trans concept, and the courses of action that some people are determined to follow...As one cannot argue that this behaviour in itself, does not possess it's own realism.

But I will not be brow beaten into disregarding the fundamental reality of the human species.......Egg producer....Sperm producer.

Developmental anomalies relating to gender, are what they are.....But are not the same as post natal transitioning based upon choice.

No debate necessary.

Nice Jibe Doc.

But you know that you are wrong.

Well stated.

Another pagan festival hijacked by Christianity.

Perverse logic some might say.

But logical nonetheless.

Well stated.

The offender either emits sound waves or produces a visually perceivable narrative.

The offended detect sound or light waves, convert signals into data, and then create their own offense for their own purposes.

Alternatively they could just not bother to respond.

I would therefore suggest that people actually enjoy being offended.

Hey...If violent premature death, just boils down to semantics.

Can I be Poly for a week?

Spurious evidence Doc.

Not a fact in sight.

Happy Chocolate Egg weekend to you and yours Doc.

Did you know that Chocolate Egg Day is a Pagan fertility festival based upon a Pagan fertility festival?....And that's a fact.

In that context, what would a god be?

Are we talking the one that sets fire to shrubbery in order to gain peoples attention?

Or are we talking something a tad more fundamental?

Or perhaps even a woman with four arms.

As ever........God principle sound, floaty about blokes and four armed women not so.

What's your particular favourite?

I agree with your view of what most ordinary Russian people think, but are afraid to say.

And for sure Putin is a typical old style,  paranoid, Russian megalomaniac.

So we wait upon Putin's demise, and the Global community will be in period of turmoil for the foreseeable future.......These situations have a tendency to arise.

As for oil:

Well anything that makes us aware of our unsustainable dependency on fossil fuels, has got to be a good thing.

I know.

Is pizza popular in China?

I would suggest that the "balance" is actually dictated by the moderate core.

In terms of authoritative bodies we apply the labels Democrat and Republican, or Conservative and Liberal, or Left and Right.

But relative to a collective mindset, the core of the U.S (and U.K) establishment and the wider populace, is still firmly moderate.

Isn't that just an example of bias as described in my previous comments?

A point of reduction relative to internal experiences, and faith in an assumed experience beyond that which is perceivable.

As opposed to:

A point of reduction relative to internal experiences only......Though with an understanding of the experience that is imagination.

I would suggest that Poly has a tendency derived from experience and reduced to a point, whereby she generally overthinks things. Especially things such as science and theism.

I love my wife....Scientific application could come to a reasonable conclusion about this. Though I would expect Poly to overthink the concept of love to a point of reduction that exceeds function and process......Whereby she will have a tendency to overthink love......After all, it is human to do so.

Of course, LOVE is a general term that is used to describe  a wide variety of internal responses to a wide variety of perceivably external stimuli.....I love ice cream and the dog and the kids and my wife and  etc etc etc.

And of course we can also apply the same general term to imaginary unperceivable external stimuli....That is to say, internally generated stimuli.....A GOD or GODS for example......Imagination as it were.

Yes.

Though I am not fully acquainted with his work.

Nonetheless, I always state that the GOD principle represents the "substance" of the Universe.

It's the extended ideas of GOD that I have a problem with.....As in Middle Eastern folk tales and the like.

So what should I look for in Spinoza?

Pie crust is pastry and pizza crust is dough.

And if you're buying, you will get what you pay for.

And if your making, you can put what the f*** you like on the top.

Otherwise.....Ask an Italian.

53?.............Billion years of age.

And she cast the Dancing Penguins into the wildernesses of the frozen south.....Filii raptus in nomine deorum.

And the Puffin shall paint it's face as Mel Gibson and reside upon the Holy Isles of Northumbria.

From where the swooping Tern shall shit upon the heads of all celebrity ornithologists.

Based upon the above, one might therefore conclude that a moderate democracy in which administrative power is not allowed become permanently established is the favourable option.

The other option being a lesser or greater tyranny.

So I would conclude that both Parties combined, makes life a lot easier for U.S. citizens.....Or more so, makes life a lot freer.

Freedom that is perhaps taken for granted.

How one might or might not capitalise upon ones freedom, is largely down to the ability of the individual to do so.

And those that don't, usually whinge continually about those that do.

And I in no way intend to denigrate the needs of those who actually can't.

An extravagant lie is one that makes you smile.

For example:

Donald Trump was an erudite Statesman.

For sure...But depends upon how far one chooses to take reduction.

Same with all discussions.....One picks a spot, stands on ones soap box and proclaims the  data that they have taken on board.

Data usually grounded in some measure of formative conditioning (childhood brainwashing)....And then perhaps latterly contrived and modified.

Bias towards particular measures, as it were.

Yep. Greek or Latin or something.

Are you a Puffin sceptic then?

Are you a HUMBLEIST?

Not bad for 53......But a little goes a long way.

Paint your face stripy.

And GODPUFFIN created the Platypus and thought what the fuck.

And the Proboscis Monkey, looked in the still water and and also uttered........What the fuck.

And GODPUFFIN said unto Platypus and Proboscis Monkey....Care not......For KATE of the high end breathable outdoor wear will be thy salvation.

And so it came to be so.....That which is the BBC and Attenborough and all Humble came forth into the light and gave succour.

And the ugly little Bat fucker heard the Moth AND IT WAS GOOD.

An Apuffinist Stephen.

Time and Space,

So all event and duration,

And that which has come to be,

Quantum.

ebuCCube.

The frisson of heated conjecture, maketh the experience.

Are you a headmaster or a tyrant of some sorts?

We record history but we never learn from it.

And old men soon lose touch with young people.

Boys, unsophisticated machinery and pompous old rhetoric are seemingly no match for determined technological warfare.

But it all makes for one hell of a fucking mess.

Old men die, and new old men will take their place.

And Moses was as high as a kite.

Why the fuck didn't GODDO just pop down for a chat?

Why the need for all the burning foliage drama?

You just couldn't make it up....LOL.

The Elderly will inevitably, eventually fit into a coffin.

Is this an unpopular but helpful opinion?

Viable Sperm Producer........................Developmental Anomalies.................Viable Egg Producer.

VSP with a penchant for lingerie..................Typical Presentation...................VEP with a penchant for short back and sides.

Just emphasizing the point, that anyone can make up this sort of COHERENT waffle.

It's perhaps a tradition in Slovenia?

Yes please go on Oh Deb of the Puffin Folk.

Over hear we pray to the Dinosaur GODDESS of the Puffins, whom we refer to as KATE HUMBLE.

I didn't realise that you were a PUFFINIST too.

Chantelle 36: 24: 36......And he came upon the Puffin and proclaimed unto the Humble one.

Shane 69: 66......Lest the figure hugging Humble of the top range breathable outdoor wear, he shall come upon the Puffin.

I just did some research and  by all accounts the second biggest shithole is somewhere known as Sarasota.

Easy Peasy...Think of a place and call it a shithole. LOL Mr Grumpy.

People love London.....I don't think that you have fully researched this issue.

I don't love London.

I'm not sure if homeless Americans would like the weather and the sheep here in Wales...LOL

And I would imagine that people move to Texas, Florida and Arizona for the sunshine.

Not ancient at all.....Victims of the R.C. Church are still alive.....I don't think that you have fully researched this issue.

European colonialists enslaved Africans and Africans enslaved British people (generalisations)....... I don't think that you have fully researched this issue.

You need to prove GOD first....And children learn what they are told....So not by choice...Therefore not consensual.

Yep tithes...10% tax....I thought that you didn't like tax.

And America is similarly democratic to Western Europe (generalisation). And in the true sense of the word, nowhere in Western Europe is a socialist state......You definitely haven't researched this.

In fact...There are no truly socialist states....But let's not digress.

I don't think that you ever really research your ideas.....Which is why you have to eventually resort to insulting a City. LOL.

Nonetheless entertaining though.....Keep up the good work.

It's that old facts issue Doc.

As was correctly pointed out to me by Tarik.

A fact by definition, is unequivocal.

Not a random bit of contrived pseudo-data.

The reason for it happening, was an asteroid was on a collision course with Earth and it collided.

Very simple science then.

Anything else is post-event scientific speculation.......Good fun, and "requires" humans.

And yes.....I'm something, just like you.

Asteroid.....Earth.....Boom.

No science required.

It was either going to hit, or it wasn't.

GOD hadn't  been invented....That was a later hominid thing.

Why do the majority of Catholics ignore the facts Doc?

Maybe it's because the sex is so good.

You're trying to wind me up Doc.