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@Greyparrot
Better a trusted authority than an Orange Clown.
So said the Moderate core, to the bedevilment of the Conservative extremists.
Long live the Moderates.
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@sadolite
The human race is what it is and behaves primarily according to it's instinctive programming.
Though intellectual development has allowed us to exceed our base programming, we are nonetheless still slaves to it.
In terms of species development and also intellectual and material development, I would suggest that it is wholly inappropriate to refer to the human species as retarded.....Retarded compared to what?
Within the context of the organic human structure, we simply cannot exceed the ongoing limitations of evolutionary development.
And the biblical hypothesis was a perfect example of how intellectually limited we once were.
And the fact that so many people still look to an archaic hypothesis for answers, is a perfect example of how slow intellectual progress actually is....Despite what we may have achieved technologically.
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@Reece101
Everyone thinks and everyone discriminates, so if you include "thoughts" within your analysis, then by definition everyone is racist.
I would suggest that racism is best defined as a negative outward expression of thoughts, relative to a perceivable difference.
Old fashioned Joke:
And Englishman, a Scotsman and an Irishman are sitting in a bar.
None of them is any the wiser until they open their mouths.
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@Novice
Are you absolutely moral regarding the preservation of life....... Or selectively moral relative to social conditioning?
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@ebuc
@FLRW
Space and Time are intangible possibilities.....No more, no less....Though humans typically like to redefine and therefore overcomplicate the base reality of possibility.
The crux of all issues is matter, and it's associated events and duration.
If not, then explain how No Space and No time is a possibility.
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@Double_R
Civil Wars were commonplace.....Things got sorted......Still do I suppose.
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@3RU7AL
In so much as I don't give any credence to religious concepts that involve humanesque or animalesque deities.
GOD principle sound though, in so much as (creation?) matter and evolution may be purposeful.
Creation is a tough one , as it relies upon a something from nothing principle.
Maybe recreation.
But a beginning is unimaginable.
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F**k Russia and Ukraine.
F**k Domestic US politics
F**k Global pandemics and environmental catastrophe.
In fact, f**k everything else, because.
Americans have got a huge crisis to deal with....Depp and Heard!
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@Double_R
We all identify it in exactly the same basic data processing way.
You just jumped in with the same old black and white historically motivated, socio-political rhetoric.
No one is black and no one is white.
We were segregated by the virtues of planetary evolution and we learnt to perceive and make distinctions, and we continue to do so.
And until such times as everyone is a clone, we will continue to perceive and make distinctions.
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@3RU7AL
Yep isn't it ironic.
The human problem is humans.
On one tiny organic coated speck of cosmic dust in the middle of who knows where.
Because?
So does anything really matter beyond the limits of our self contained illusions?
Fertilizer for sure.
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@TheUnderdog
What about next week?.....As there's no guarantee that you will even make it beyond that.
So many people save for the future, but fail to make it there.
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@3RU7AL
I did say the basics.
And was simply trying to point out the distinction between words and comprehension.
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@Bones
A Zedku for Bones.
Skating.
Tried it once,
Didn't like it.
Concentrating too hard,
On staying upright.
Never heard the song.
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@TheMorningsStar
Selective morality.
The hypocrisy of the people.
So sit in a cave and only absorb drip fed nutrients from stalactites.
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@CoolApe
Thus, the philosophical discussions about them are really nonsense, but they are entertaining for a short while.
Here Here.
A Zedku for CoolApe.
The body is,
It's functions are,
Evolved from matter,
Or so I think.
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@Barney
A Racist is a person that outputs a negative response to a normal internal response relative to a perceivable difference.
Everyone discriminates internally.......Just as you discriminated against Deb, albeit not maliciously.
Though let's be honest, Racism is largely a socio-political weapon these days and more generally defined as a Light and Dark issue, wherein light is the aggressor and dark is the victim......A shame but true......But one of the disadvantages/advantages of our ability to memorise and record the past.
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@TheUnderdog
So are you a humanist?
Or just a hermit that lives in a shack, who only ever invests..... And spends only the bare minimum in order to survive?
So what is the long term goal?......Given the brief amount of time we have on this planet.
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@3RU7AL
For sure...We understand the basics of HOW knowledge/data is acquired, stored and remembered....But that's not a words and grammar issue per se.
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@Barney
People have different ways of expressing themselves.
If you don't like what Deb says, then press the ignore button....Simple.
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I personally, will associate with anyone that cares to associate with me.
The notion of Atheism is a transient notion, that doesn't in any way affect my day to day existence, or how I interact socially with others.
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@Tradesecret
@amandragon01
Trouble is we're very short on real, substantial facts.
The best that we can say about the Jesus character, is that a person relative to the said character, probably did exist.
And that said Jesus character was perhaps executed by the Roman State, for the crime of sedition.
Other more fanciful tales that promote super-natural intervention, are pretty typical theistic non-factual hypothesising.
In so much as, it must be a GOD what did it.
And the successful spread of the new religion, or new religions *, is perhaps best explained by location and social, technological, intellectual, evolutionary development.
Though the other trouble, is that some people try to ignore the fact that our innate scientific ability has moved us on way beyond the real necessity for biblical style super-nature.
* Let's not overlook the same successful spread of other similar socio-religious ideologies.
Nor let us overlook ongoing older style super-natural hypotheses.
All backed up with with very unsound, unscientific non-factual pseudo-evidence.
A narrative in itself, is only proof of itself and does not necessarily contain facts.....Hence there is a tendency to end up with mythology.
As ever...GOD principle sound.....Floaty about bloke, not so.
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@TheUnderdog
So you're a materialist, who only sees value in money and possessions?
From a progressive evolutionists perspective, I suppose that is a reasonable proposition.
Though humanists might see value in other aspects of society.
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@3RU7AL
In so much as one either thinks about thinking, or one doesn't think.
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@ebuc
Good question.
One does marvel at the intricacies of organic systems.
Such programming has evolved?
Something for the Goddists to get hung up on.
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@amandragon01
Nice.
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@ILikePie5
Good morning Mr Pie.
I too like old grumpy underbridge trolls.
And I also like pies.
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If what constitutes a "Troll", is someone that doesn't agree with another persons every whacky or illogical word, or all atheists.....Then you will find Trolls everywhere.
As far as I am concerned a "Troll" is a creature of Scandinavian folklore.
I therefore would have expected a certain person to be heavily into worshiping Trolls this weekend.
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@Outplayz
So where did the "xbox" come from?
Trouble is, all hypotheses rely on something from nothing.
And "simulation" has implications beyond just an eternal possibility.
A simulation is a representation of something......Either the representation of a reality or the representation of a hypothesis.
Is it more likely that a simulator and a simulated universal scenario just happened to pop out of nowhere?
And of course, what is being simulated?
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@3RU7AL
@sui_generis
Epistemology is a self-contradicting unnecessity.
And empiricism to a greater or lesser extent, relies upon imagination.
And arbitrarily and primacy are equally as woolly.
Well that's my arbitrarily prime opinion of existentialism.
Though anyone is free to disagree...Just reshuffle the words and deal yourself a new hand.
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@Greyparrot
You try saying kleptocracy when you've been awake for at least 30 minutes....LOL.
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Women punching the f**k out of each other and men getting excited by it.
Once again I blame testosterone.
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@sui_generis
True.
The Bible was once a metaphor for ignorance.
But as a species we were able to exceed our ignorance.
Nowadays the Bible is truly a metaphor for erroneous data transfer and programming.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Toffee Apple.
No there's something conflated if every a confectionary creation omnididn'twork.
Ok so lace it with poison or a little something as we say, and me and the various GODS will make merry.
And I will be happy to give the old girl with the goats horns my sticky lollipop.
And the beardy old guy with the beer belly and the leather pouch on his belt...High Priest...Yep...As a kite for sure.
Pants on, pants off....Hey we're not judgemental....It's that time of year.
Naked dancing time.
Thanks for looking after my pants Deb.
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@TheUnderdog
Thunderdog.
Just out of interest:
When did you last visit the EU or Africa?
And in your mind, what actually constitutes a "shithole".
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@TheUnderdog
Thunderdog.
Yep...I agree in principle.
Though atheist is really just the antithesis of theist......Floaty about Goddist or not, as it were.....
We also don't really fall under the agnostic umbrella either.
Simulation for sure, but who or what is the projector.....We're sort of back to a form of Goddism with that one.
I'm sort of a:
NOIDEABUTWITHAPENCHANTFORACREATIONEVENTANDAPOSSIBLYPURPOSEFULSUBSEQENTEVOLUTIONARYPROCESSWHICHMIGHTEVENTUALLYRESULTINA
UNIVERSALCOLLAPSEANDRECREATIONEVENTist.
A Nist for short, perhaps.
So I put forward Nism as an alternative suggestion.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Hey....Let's get naked and dance.
And have a great weekend one and all.
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@secularmerlin
There is a basic undeniable reality which you attempt to avoid.
And the there are socially contrived realities which you selectively utilise as justification for something.
Such are the available possibilities.
And we are fortunate to live in reasonably liberal societies, wherein we can discuss such things freely and openly.....And long may that continue to be the case..
Though the fact that you continually need to justify something, does indicate that you continually need to justify something.
I personally am not being judgemental, it's just that I like to firstly try and understand the base reality of the human condition..
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@TheUnderdog
I would suggest that body formation is primarily determined by genetics.
The endocrine system being one such development.
And arms don't grow as such, the develop as an intrinsic part of the whole.
Though that is certainly not to say that limb regrowth and "dick" production will never be a possibility.
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@3RU7AL
Who owns words?
For sure.....Who owns anything?
Though if that was the accepted standard we lived by, then every aspect of social interaction would inevitably always be rendered to confusion and non-sense.
Because any word could mean anything, relative to the whim and necessity of the user.
"Who owns words" could mean Bom Shakka Lak, should that be my necessity and whim.
So we have a dictionary standard of words and their definitions.
My point was, that dictionaries have been latterly adjusted without any real consensus, to accommodate the necessity and whims of a minority lobby.
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@secularmerlin
A man that lives as a woman is a cosmetic yet socially realistic contradiction of a biologically unrealistic proposition.
So there's Male Female and Other.....And then there are the variety of things that people do to fulfil the innate desire to reproduce.
All within the context of social acceptance, expectation and possibility.
All fine by me.
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@FLRW
Yep...The Incas believed in non-sense too and a fat lot of good it did them.
Their GODDO clearly forgot to tell them about the Spanish.
Obviously not enough fat kids.
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@sadolite
Nowadays with the push towards sustainability and the reduction of dependency upon artificial fertilizers within the agricultural/horticultural sectors.
Shit is big business.
Though erasing shit?........Blankets and all that.
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@Conservallectual
Mythology and folktales will undoubtedly contain elements of factual information.
But will also contain elements of fantastic supernatural speculation.
So there was this guy in this place.....Perhaps true.
And then there was this guy with this huge boat full of every animal imaginable and the entire earth was flooded.......Probably untrue.
So there was this guy with a very small boat who rescued a few goats when the river flooded after some heavy rain.....And exaggerate.......More likely.
None of which proves the existence of an actual humanesque type GOD......Though who else could you blame back in the day.....Not sure if global warming or the industrial revolution had been invented.
So is the bible true?....Well, if you've got a little black book by the side of your bed, then who can deny you that.
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@3RU7AL
Pro-noun.....Another word hijacked by sexual variantists, and rightly or wrongly redefined and submitted to and accepted by, lexicographical officialdom
Nonetheless an internal electro-chemical response converted to sound waves, received and converted back to electro-chemical data.
Or maybe represented in some other form of symbolic narrative.
Turkey basters a go-go.
Though messier more traditional methods of fluid exchange are still available.
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@TheUnderdog
But I like bigger muscles.
Say no more.
What hormone makes you grow a dick.
Firstly you will need to reinvent the wheel.
Just go for a prosthetic, and keep one the drawer next to your bed.....And you can also have a second in your handbag.
Go for the top of the range, with micro-pump and fluid reservoir.
Colour optional.
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@Bones
Same old s**t Mr Bones.
Everyone knows the real difference between a complete functionally reproductive man and a complete functionally reproductive woman.
Out of 7.9 billion organisms there will undoubtedly be exceptions to the norm.
Some people make a song and dance about the exceptions.....Which I suppose, in a just society is the right and proper thing to do.
Though I would suggest that to accommodate such concerns, it would be better to officially adopt a new moderate tri-gender approach.
Male
Female
Other.
We could then drop the controversial multi gender LGBTQetc acronym....And simpy replace it with MFO.
In fact just O would be a more accurate representation of the facts.
The L,G and B recreational variants, would simply come under the MF umbrella.
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@Conservallectual
Asi que puede aclarar su declaracion.
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@oromagi
As I stated, there is a distinction to be made between absolute trust and working trust.....You seemed to have missed this.
You are basically referring to cooperation and the level of trust which that involves.
But history shows us that allegiances can quickly shift....Temporary trust is readily dismissed.
Temporary working trust comes with a plethora of conditions that need to be maintained.
Whereas absolute trust is unconditional.
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@3RU7AL
The same net positive benefit might apply to swatting a few proximate individuals.
Depends upon the circumstance one finds oneself in with proximate individuals.
In an adverse situation we can easily flip our moral compass and become comparatively atrocious.
Good night....Time for bed.
Regards........................Zed.
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