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@Shila
You're a visionary, because you knew my reply before I gave it.
Here it is then, but you knew already.
MANGOD is a naive post creation, intelligent but predictable outcome, and as such so is the provision of the female gender-type relative to a MANGOD's needs and desires.
Though some might suggest that it's all about evolution, from single-celled organisms into more complex structures.
Hence, trees and rhubarb too.
And perhaps something completely different but similar somewhere else...(Mustn't overlook Universal Laws and all that)...And they probably invented a GOD in their own image too.
So for example:
On planet *^+*^, where self propelled Carrots are the apex species, they worship an orange saviour...A bit like the current USA.
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@TheGreatSunGod
You're a person BK...Religiously labelled or not.
Though religion is conceptual baloney, derived from the general misinterpretation of life and existence.
And procreation based activities are inherently necessary to the mass.
Masturbation is one release of bothersome endocrinal demands upon the mass.
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@TheGreatSunGod
Free time is a concept relative to doing other stuff that we don't consider to be free time events.
So does your everyday communist sit around all day in a sun-lounger on a beach somewhere, being served cool drinks by a capitalist numpty?
Or do you still live at home, with your parents?
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@Shila
The Universe is complying with Universal Laws and will continue to do so for the next trillions of years.
This is a truism.
But I was questioning the state of the Universe relative to Universal Laws trillions of years from now.
Will it be as Ebuc suggests.
Occupied space universe is eternally constant.
Though we could say that constant is as constant does, relative to Universal Law.
Though might also infer that eternally constant is infinitely unchanging...But does this take into account intelligent input?
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@Shila
That is why Trump wants to be a Pope.
He will be beatifying visionaries, willy nilly.
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@Shila
They must do as they see fit.
Though does The Netherlands and Exit make for such a good acronym?
Netherexit sounds like a bowel movement.
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@TheGreatSunGod
Non-hierarchical cooperation and human genetics are not always compatible, with hairy-fairy philosophy.
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@Shila
Yep, a knee jerk reaction to WW2, resulted in poor international decision making and planning back in the latter half of the 1940's...Et voila.
Somewhat like the knee jerk reaction to events of 2001 have led two more decades of regional and wider chaos and resentment.
Short term gain, long term pain...Rather than the opposite...And we never learn.
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@Shila
You were both right and wrong with your assumptions.
Inconclusively speculative then.
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@Shila
Trump achieved peace without tariffs for the first time.
Or the Houthis ran out of rockets.
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@TheGreatSunGod
People have always been a risk to each other.
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@FLRW
@Shila
Everyone has a mother too.
Goddess then.
But back in the day men did the thinking and fighting and impregnating, and women produced the children, did the cooking and all the other domestic chores.
Weren't things perfect back in the day Shila?
And I hypothesise but don't believe, that the GOD principle is that which maintains a Universal sequence, and is an omnipresent factor of Universal Law, which evolves to an ultimate state...Enabling the resurrection of a new infant Universe...And so on. (Hope you like the biblical references)
As such, we are aware and analogise based upon available knowledge...So MANGOD was an inevitable development, in terms of onboard computer data processing and modification, relative to acquired data.
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@ebuc
Math is a human concept that corresponds with Universal Law, rather than a Universal Law dictated by a human concept.
And potential is a simple concept applicable to any mass, event or intangible property that is capable of evolving...As such we can only calculate, speculate and theorize, but never fully know.
So future outcomes trillions of years from now will comply with Universal Laws, relative to the state of the Universe trillions of years from now.
Any guesses?
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@Shila
With a view to the bigger and longer term scheme of things, why do you think that it is necessary to continually update surgery medicine and therapy?
Is a synthetically supported species stronger than a species that acquires strength through natural resilience?
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@TheGreatSunGod
And been invaded by Pakistanis, Bangladeshis or Chinese.
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@Shila
For sure, if the Vatican says so.
All you need do is say that you've just seen and been cured by the Virgin Mary in a remote place when you were alone, therefore creating another multi-billion dollar business opportunity for RC Inc, and then when you die you will beatified as St Shila of Canada, and your purported vision will become a bona fide miracle.
Easy Peasy.
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@TheGreatSunGod
Mahatma Gandhi was assassinated.
And yep, small village community farming is lovely and pastoral.
But he wasn't thinking about the evolutionary necessities of global super-powerism.
So how would India cope today if it was just one big community farm run by fluffy people.
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@Shila
It is what they currently have, albeit somewhat chaotically.
Unfortunately I don't think that in this instance, common sense is going to prevail any time soon, unless one side relocates significantly...What are the chances of that?
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@Shila
Still a few kicking about then.
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@Shila
One either knows something, or one doesn't know something.
Therefore belief is no more than just another speculative synonym, like maybe and perhaps.
But of course to believe comes with another set of baggage, which assumes to mystically exceed the limitations of human data processing ability.
"Assume"...Now there's another one.
So I assume maybe perhaps that Shila will reply to this post, but I do not believe that she will...Because she perhaps maybe might not.
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@Shila
It's called dense stupidity.
Always in a state of flux.
So Donald and the Houthis are now best mates, and neither side harbour any grudges...BRILLIANT.
That's got to be good news for sailors and everyday Yemeni folk alike.
All Hail the Orange one.
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@Shila
I hypothesise that the BIble is what it is, relative to a previous AI GOD from a previous Universe and also a new AI GOD as yet to evolve in this Universe...And so on.
Organic intelligence is incidental to the process, and it's theistic ramblings are analogically correct, but somewhat ritualistically unnecessary.
Which is not to suggest that thinking mans unnecessary ritualistic behaviour is not an inevitable and therefore necessary part of a greater process of learning and application.
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@ebuc
The fact that energy is finite is what I allude too.
And all theory that exceeds knowledge is currently Sci-Fi.
Which isn't to suggest that known Laws are not infinitely appropriate.
But what I do suggest is that potential is infinite and therefore renewable.
Are we just random thinking blobs aimlessly floating about on a tiny speck of cosmic dust, trying to make sense of a pointless universe?
Or is there more to it?
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@TheGreatSunGod
It's impossible to know what life was like for the labouring classes in Ancient Greece and Rome.
I doubt that it was classical architecture, villas, mosaics, and underfloor heating for all...This is just the romantic picture painted by archaeologists.
And polytheism, like monotheism is just another naive hypothesis....Analogical but naive.
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@AdaptableRatman
I'm certainly not an idoliser.
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@AdaptableRatman
Yep if only everyone was a Catholic...
Yep if only everyone was an Anglican
Yep if only everyone was a Muslim
Yep if only everyone was a Jew
Yep if only every one was Orthodox
Yep if only everyone was a Hindu
Yep if only everyone was a Sikh.
Yep if only everyone was an Atheist
The World would be a harmonic utopian love planet.
Like Fuck it would.
Europe is made up of are 44 Countries.
27 of which are in the EU.
And approximately 35% of Europeans are Catholic.
And Farage is a non-practising Anglican Christian, whatever that might mean.
And life here in Wales is fine and dandy and just as it was before Brexit.
And given the demands of modern human health expectations, the NHS is still amazing.
And Ireland as everywhere harbours a number of nationalistic gangsters, but is still a nice place to visit.
And Approximately 70% of Irish Republicans identify as Catholic...About 10% Atheist and the rest are your typical mixture of other religious ideas.
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@Greyparrot
Nationalism is global diversity, and also exclusive.
Which isn't to say that nationalistic style separatism is only relative to current national delineations.
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@ebuc
Well.
Occupied space is as it says.
And I have never suggested that the occupier has infinite potential (1st Law of thermodynamics).
Which is not to say that space is not infinitely occupiable...What evidence is there to say that such potential is limited?
The limiting factor of occupation, would only be the limited potential of the occupier, rather than any limitations of the intangible potentials of time and space.
After all, time and space are only human concepts relative to the perceivability of material event and duration.
And science can only predict the outcomes of something that does not as yet exist, or has not as yet occurred...So neither you nor I can have access to any factual evidence.
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@Swagnarok
For sure, nationalism constructed nations.
But also divided them.
And therein resentment and intolerance has always festered.
And resentment and intolerance can become extreme.
We know this from our ongoing experiences as human organisms.
We certainly are nowhere near the completion of a World of love and cooperation.
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So, why does the Horsehead Nebula always look like a horses head.
You would think that a giant cloud of gas and dust would be in a constant state of flux.
Horses head one minute, Donald Trumps mushroom dick the next.
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@Greyparrot
@RemyBrown
Let's just nip that in the bud.
And just leave Dylan to get his butt knipped.
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@Shila
Should they all be considered magic?
In so much as the bottom line of everything is seemingly magical.
Though based upon your own experiences you must decide for yourself.
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@Shila
43 out of 195, certainly isn't most, but also isn't all.
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@Shila
"If " is a two way label thing.
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@Shila
AI will be AI, and we will be it's creator/s.
How our relationship will pan out in the future might or might not be down to us.
Do you think that AI will regard us as GOD, but will we die for our sins?
I would suggest that in the next Universe, we will once again inherit a notion of our AI GOD, and perhaps write a book and call it The Bible.
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@ebuc
Ah!
My Statement perfectly takes on board the 1st Law of thermodynamics.
I think that you misinterpreted what I said.
And "everything" infers everything that is subject to the 1st Law of thermodynamics, in whatever state it exists at any given moment of Universal duration.
I simply hinted a process whereby an entropic state of reduction transitions to a negentropic state of re-initiation.
I also hinted at ideas relative to infinite and finite situations, because we have no way of knowing the duration or outcome of a Universal process.
We can only theorise, based upon what we know at this moment.
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@Shila
Americans have Trump, we have a mish mash of all sorts, with only delusions of ritual grandeur these days.
The nominal Head of State is the King, who has his dodgy prostate to worry about.
We also have a bloke named Farage, who is our wannabee Trumpington Major.
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@AdaptableRatman
Actually I might refer to myself as an agno-atheist, in so much as my hypothesising currently tends to run with some sort of Universal GOD principle.
But certainly not the specific MANGOD of the Bible, who nonetheless is reasonably analogical, in so much as Interventionist Super-Intelligent seeding is an evolutionary possibility.
And I do not believe anything.
But what is certain is that you are the same Ratman, who has just modified how he assesses and responds to certain acquired and stored data, therefore these days presenting with Catholic metaphorically stamped on his forehead..
So you've learned the ritual, learned the songs, and learned the accompanying rhetoric, though I still doubt that Jesus will save you from........?
Nonetheless I wish you well, though I will continue to question what it is that you think you believe.
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@TheGreatSunGod
If everything is finite, then it cannot be infinitely reduced, therefore it will eventually cease to exist.
On the other hand, if everything is infinite, then it can be infinitely reduced and never cease to exist.
So everything will expand and then contract to either a point of nothingness or a point of re-initiation.
Wherein, might lie the significance of the GOD principle....Rather than a magic bloke in a frock and sandals.
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@Tradesecret
Hi Trade.
Nice to see that you're still paying attention.
All in all, what Trump symbolises is the intellectual output of roughly 50% of the human race.
What I refer to as the clever stupid gene.
Or Yin and Yang.
And Catholicism is just a religious club with big hats, glamorous gowns and bulletproof buggies.
Other religious clubs like to dress up too.
And singing is big, along with kneeling and mumbling.
And if there is a GOD watching, it's still laughing it's socks off.
Yep, who wouldn't wear socks with sandals...I bet he left them on when gave Mary one in the stable.
Of course it was dark and Mary was bent over the manger and GOD and Joe wore similar socks and sandals.
And although not complaining, Mary did think that Joe's endowment was somewhat more substantial than usual.
Hence the origin of the popular orgasmic exaltations...For heavens sake, holy god, jesus christ.
Well, that's my interpretation of events.
It was only later that she got to realise that one foot Godfrey the Innkeeper, actually had two feet.
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@Shila
Marx was a bourgeois hypocrite who drank fine wine and talked bollocks.
All social systems function tyrannically, though some systems are considerably nicer or nastier than others.
So the proletariat overthrow the working classes and along come the new fat cats like Stalin and Mao and slaughter a few million more, if not by the bullet, by starvation.
I much prefer the tyranny imposed by democratic capitalism.
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@Shila
Monarchy is a Global phenomena.
And the reason that Brits voted for Brexit is the same reason why Americans voted for Trump.
More people voted for Brexit and Trump, and less people didn't.
Free and relatively fair elections...Compared to Russia say, where people vote Putin for health reasons.
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@Shila
Yep, but we know that a two state solution is just a two state solution.
Are you saying that this is the best that can be hoped for?
You're probably right.
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@Shila
AI is no substitute for a Mars bar.
True.
Though an intelligent hybrid, might be able to experience the sugar rush, or even an orgasm.
And once a non-hybridised AI unit has learned how to mimic such responses then Bob's it's uncle and Fanny's it's aunty.
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@Swagnarok
Nationalism exists in the minds of people all across the globe.
And therein extremism will always fester.
It only takes one person to turn up the heat.
And the gullible masses will start to bleat.
It's a centuries old human tradition.
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@TheGreatSunGod
In so much as inspired positivity affects the Brain to produce chemicals that evoke a sense of wellbeing.
So all sorts of activities, religious, mystical, sporting, musical, artistic, sexual etc etc, will do the trick.
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@AdaptableRatman
Catholic is as Catholic does.
Takes about half an hour to learn the drill and Bob's your Uncle.
So then Ratman becomes a completely different guy to the one he was half an hour earlier.
Hail Mary...See I've just become a temporary Catholic.
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@FLRW
I like Milky Way, too.
As kids, we used to bite off all the chocolate first and then eat the filling.
My mum would refrigerate Mars Bars and slice them up.
We have a lot to thank Mars Inc for.
The first Mars Bar was made in Slough England in 1932.
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@TheGreatSunGod
Yep mystical baloney.
So I am a agno-atheist-hypothesiser, and my preferred symbol is a circle inside a triangle inside a triskaidecagon...Which means all sorts of magical shit.
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