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@AdaptableRatman
Christians used to burn heretics.
And the Mesopotamian cradle of civilisation and all it's religious baloney predates Christian baloney by several thousands of years.
Though it's a tad daft to assume that enforcing and enslaving religious societies won't produce rational thinkers.
Eventually, even the mystics had to concede that Galileo wasn't such a daft guy after all.
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@Shila
Elon Musk wants to be seen as a flexible person.
Needs to take up yoga then.
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@Shila
Well, I'm an Earth colonist and share this tiny speck of cosmic dust with 8 billion or so other people and countless other trillions of lifeforms.
No room for isolationism.
In fact, it is reckoned that I share my body with about 39 trillion bacteria...( Not sure who counted them).
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@AdaptableRatman
Rudimentary scientists discovered baking, and latter day scientists continue to push the limits of food production and development...Have theory....Study and test.
Whereas hapless mystics just came up with an abstract idea and left it at that...Have theory... Sing songs, dress up and generally do daft stuff.
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@RemyBrown
Hey Remy.
Just saying to the new Ratman. (He's reincarnated, both in name and religion).
The generational transfer of data is persistent and will inevitably result as "patterns" in regional and cultural sub-groups.
Which is why Inuit's are not big on Witchetty Grubs, and Aborigines not big into Grizzly Bears....Though I expect that both have developed a modern cultural attachment to smartphones.
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@AdaptableRatman
Yep.
Certain MANGOD tales were such.
Other tales developed both before and afterwards.
Whereas Scientists, however fundamental their science, looked at things with a bit more realism and came up with alternative suggestions.
But hey, acquired and transferred data is persistent.
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@RemyBrown
Jews are just another bunch of folk who think that they are completely different to every other bunch of folk.
It's a common misunderstanding.
Which isn't to say that certain peoples do not display certain discernibly differentiating characteristics.
Though if Human A fucks Human B they will generally produce Human C.
And then there's religious baloney to consider...There's always religious baloney to consider.
And dick modifications...Don't forget dick modifications.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Hey Deb.
Computers, either do as they're told, or not.
AI is currently a misnomer.
When it isn't a misnomer, AI will either be telling you what to do, or doing stuff and not telling you.
G'day Bruce.
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@AdaptableRatman
We can only be sainted post death, if you didn't know.
Yep Ratman, I think that it is referred to as beatification...Big money to be made, in shrines, tourism and tacky memorabilia shopping.
I am aware of other Roman Catholic eccentricities....Like sexual repression, paedophilia and the abuse of unmarried young mothers, to name but three.
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@AdaptableRatman
So, I'm just guessing, RationalMadman.
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@Shila
You must be lonely after BREXIT.
Nope, still here in exactly the same place as before, doing the same sort of stuff.
Just slightly more passport control.
And people still visit.
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@Shila
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
Well, we've moved on from 2 years to 20years.
Nonetheless, a "City" on mars in 20 years is a logistical improbability/impossibility.
I haven't checked your data, but if windows of opportunity occur every 26months and it takes up to 9 months to get there.
Maybe a research Hamlet.
If humanity seriously want's to achieve such ambitions, it seriously needs to start cooperating....Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
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@Greyparrot
That's right.
Smart is as smart pulls the trigger.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Yeh.
But after the last crew has left and the credits roll, there will be shot of a smug astronaut sipping Pina colada on a beach somewhere on Titan.
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@Shila
Jesus is a good example. His consciousness was fully intact as he moved into the spirit realm.
Speculative though analogical perhaps..
ISI. (Interventionist Super-Intelligence) existing within a data matrix is more likely. Wherein forms can coexist as ideas.
Perhaps we are already a part of it, but do not realise yet.
Or perhaps we become a part of it...AKA afterlife.
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@Shila
No one else cares.
But those that read my stuff on a regular basis, should just about have the gist of me anyway.
British Earthling.
Male.
65
Married
Atheist. (Though enjoy hypothesising the GOD principle).
Moderately political.
Semi-retired.
Read and remember.
Anything else you need to know, just ask....I will reply if I deem it appropriate to do so.
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@Shila
Elon Musk hopes to setup a colony of humans in two years on Mars.
Considering;
A. It takes approximately 6 to 9 months to get there.
B. The amount of kit that would be required in order to maintain a colony of humans.
I think it very unlikely.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
3. We and they will have been superseded by AI devices, whose considerations will be markedly different to our emotional states.
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@Shila
Food wars will be a thing of the future.
Maybe.
And Trump will die sooner rather than later.
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@Shila
And 50% of Americans love him.
What does that say about 50% of dumbass sistamuthafuckin banjo playing grass chewing Americans?
Of course, 50% of 50% will be sleeping with both their brutha and Pa.
Only joking....I'm only referring to swamp dwellers, hillbillies and the paranoid who lurk in the backwoods with a shed full of automatic weapons.
The ones that lack teeth and shoes.
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@n8nrgim
Well, if the Universe already supports a vast array of life on habitable planets, then we wouldn't want to start intergalactic AI and quantum computing wars by arrogantly trying to take over.
I would suggest that it would be better to firstly establish who or what might be where.
And of course, someone or something might already be heading our way.
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@Shila
Mars.
Yep, we're struggling to get there.
One step at a time though.
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@Shila
You live for ever in the spirit.
Well, that's always been a long shot.
But the possibility of having ones consciousness downloaded, is not such a long shot...Quite likely I think.
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@Shila
I have given you personally, my profile on two occasions.
Do you have memory loss issues?
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@Shila
I'm a keen cyclist.
My legs and backside are in fine fettle.
As for the rest of me...Who knows what lurks beneath.
Hope you're keeping up the jogging.
Did you vote Carney...He used to be a Bank Manager, did you know?
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@fauxlaw
Ok, but I was referring to Al rather than AI.
Yep I know, with failing eyesight the meagre curl on the lower case L isn't obvious.
Have a nice day, and I hope that you remembered to switch off the lights.
Oh and coincidentally, the headline report from the US when I switched on my laptop this morn, was about the marked increase in crop failures in The US, due to extreme weather events.
Just saying.
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@RemyBrown
The ladder is a non starter.
Sometimes things make one chuckle.
I'm guessing that the ladder didn't reach it's objective.
Need to get a longer ladder.
Sorry.
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@TheGreatSunGod
A tad stupid to think that wordplay can prove GOD.
Anselm, Descartes...They've all had a go.
Though this depends upon ones interpretation of GOD, of course.
If the evolution of matter and it's purpose, is the GOD principle, then GOD is certainly everywhere.
But if you want to pull a MANGOD from the box, you will need to be a magician .
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@n8nrgim
I've said this before.
Living for ever would only be any good if one could stop the aging clock in ones prime.
At 25 - 30 years perhaps.
Not much good at 100.
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@fauxlaw
Hey
Some older people fear and dislike change.
Whereas I try to run with it...No choice really.
So things either happen for a reason or not...Fact is we don't know.
So, we have become dependent upon electricity.
We endured the industrial revolution with it's coal burning smog and it's polluted rivers.
And also have become dependent on powered transport, and have endured it's undeniable pollution.
To deny the known effects of pollution is to bury ones head in the sand, as some older folk prefer to do.
So what.
None of us are here for more than a nanosecond of universal time.
Just do what you think is good and sensible, and in a hundred years from now new old folk will be doing the same.
And you and I will have disappeared, either into a hole in the ground, or in a puff of smoke.
Along with Al, your personal whipping boy.
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@Greyparrot
True.
I think that the majority of people, would prefer a peaceful existence at home
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@Shila
Well I'm not sure that wandering about the desert yabbering to a handful of similar itinerants can be rightly referred to as public ministry.
As for Joseph...Read the tales, interpret as necessary.
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@Shila
We may never know how deprived you are.
For sure.
Or we may never know how misinformed you are.
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@Shila
I'm sure that he does.
But such things have a habit of biting one in the backside in later years.
But then, we are all eventually bitten in the backside by something, I suppose.
Such are our tenuous existences.
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@WyIted
Well in terms of survival, our world is the only non-hostile place we know...Though the existence of organic structures is never guaranteed here.
A billion years from now, I'm guessing that we will need to be somewhere else...And by "we" I'm referring to intelligence only, rather than the vehicle used to transport intelligence.
Some might argue that AI (another/alternative intelligence) will be an ongoing merger of ideas and will not necessarily rely upon a hybridisation of structure, wherein the data processing unit is the necessity and any organic component would be far too fragile.
Perhaps in the future, super-intelligent, dextrous robots in human form, will pay homage to their Organic forbears...And will be referred to as We.
I have a tendency to think that the term Artificial Intelligence is now a tad arrogant.
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@WyIted
People have notoriously taken actions that have bit them in the ass later...It's known as learning the hard way...But as I see it, also an essential part of an evolutionary process.
So you get caught up in your current limited understanding of computing, and I ask you quite a simple question about the future role of people as fragile limited organisms in a hostile but technologically evolving Universe.
Not tomorrow...But let's say, a billion years from now.
WTF's so difficult about that.
You and n8nrgim presented your box, and I questioned what might be outside of that box.
All comes under the general heading of science and nature, albeit somewhat hypothetically and philosophically.
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@FLRW
These days, is a quickie in the vestry with the altar boy, still classified as a non-relationship?
Certainly was back in the day for a lot of Priests and Popes.
What about hookers?...Just a business deal, right?
What about if they get a sore dick, and get a nun to rub some cream in for 5 or 10 minutes...Essential healthcare right?
There's always Loopholes to be explored.
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@n8nrgim
@WyIted
The issue of people.
Hmmmmmm.
Considering the fragility and limitations of organic systems, do you think that people will continue to be an issue, once that the evolutionary task becomes Universal?
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@Shila
Did his Stepdad daft Joe go to the trial?
Never hear much of daft Joe these days.
Are there any reliable eyewitness accounts?
Probably had to move away for a big carpentry job.
Maybe daft when it comes to women, but does a damn fine mortice and tenon.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Well Deb.
According to her profile, Shila is a Canadian female.
Also a Roman Catholic, so probably not Trans.
Maybe a Nun.
Two Nuns in the bath.
One says where's the soap Sister.
The other says, certainly does Mother Superior.
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@TheGreatSunGod
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
If everything was that simple BK.
Like I said...When has war ever been a jolly decent spiffing friendly affair, between best mates.
Perhaps an area of Eastern Russia or Mongolia or somewhere else vast and empty, could be set aside for Battles, wherein both sides are made up with only willing participants. Therein, no collateral damage, save for a few antelopes and other small critters. Leaving only dead idiots.
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@Mharman
HaHa.
Just seen the Whales joke.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
@Shila
We want to see what we pull out of your pant.
Deb meet Shila.
Shila meet Deb.
I'm sensing chemistry.
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@TheGreatSunGod
As if war isn't crime enough.
When has war ever been a jolly decent spiffing friendly affair, between best mates?
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@Shila
And leaves a gap in others.
What I've never had, I've never missed.
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@sadolite
Take care.
Silica is found in both marble and granite.
Silicosis is a serious disease, associated with stone working.
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