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Because people are taught to be stupid.

Probably having trouble with the spaceship.

Anything's possible.

But mostly unlikely.

And "fuck up" is a subjective comparison relative to a subjective expectation.

And the organic fluff that coats this microscopic bit of universal dust.......Means what actually?

And where's GOD got to?.....Old Mr OMNISENSIBLE.

Yep.

Star making's a doddle.

I'm just curious as to the source of the raw materials.

Does it get a mention in that highly authoritative book?

The one written a few hundred years ago.

And based upon old Middle Eastern folk tales.

You know the sort of highly believable, authoritative stuff.

Like a 500 year old guy, that took a hundred years to build a giant wooden zoo boat.

Presumably all the animals of the world were beamed aboard Scottie.

Now that's a novelty.

Why didn't MAN GOD just click his fingers, like he did when he made stars.

D'oh......MAN GOD OMNINOTTHINKINGSTRAIGHT.

A 67 year old with the mentality and rhetoric of a 15 year old.

You should stand for President.

Definitely a miffed kid.

Life is Chemistry.

Even if it was a GOD what did it.

And if it was a GOD what did it.....Then free will's straight out of the window.....Cause and effect and all that stuff. 

As for buses, flower power and acid heading.......You've lost me there.

Mind you........I'm convinced Abraham was off his head......Altitude sickness perhaps..... But more than likely, some popular Middle Eastern Shamanic abuse substance.

Hey Man...Give me a chizel and I'll just jot that down.

How many Billions got thrown at Afghanistan and the Middle East, in the USA's futile attempt at revenge.

Universal childcare....What a bummer

Universal housing.....What a bummer

Universal tuition.......What a bummer

Who thinks up this nonsense?

Let's go bomb the fuck out of somewhere obscure for 20 years......Now that's money well spent.

And "Christian" is certainly a devolved metaphor.

That's a belief.

I believe that  Planet T2X4 of the Antus4 system, is a chocolate planet with a 50km chocolate crust, and a custard and nut core.

Prove me wrong.

And all that humping and heaving

And BOOM.

Two gametes fused.

And that was you.

Free willy.

The Roy determines what is good.

The anagrammatic theory of fractional reduction to a point of 0.

And "Christian" is ultimately a devolved metaphor for The Roy.

What a load of rot hey?

Though the theory of fractional reduction is sound.

The brain assess acquired and stored data, determines, and might or might not output options, which we might therefore regard as choices.

Under typical physiological circumstances the mechanisms and processes are set in stone....Predetermined.

We  do not choose to be born....And we possess a determination to survive.

Free will is the ability to make determined choices.

Trying to separate determinism and free will is an unnecessarily necessary philosophical exercise.

Then I would accept the existence of a GOD....Belief would obviously not be necessary.

What might this hypothetical addendum to proof mean.....Makes it  the hypothetical trick question.

From basic proof.....Nothing......Because I would gain nothing, other than a slight modification in stored data.......A GOD might exist......A GOD does exist.

Of course, this might all depend on the ensuing show and demonstration catch.

Hey Deb.

I couldn't find the scientific meaning of the word "theroy"

Brilliant word though.

Yep. We're all conditioned by our formative and immediate environment.

And the Man GOD was an obvious conclusion to be reached. 

And of course, human data transfer is such that these old conclusions are easily perpetuated.

Resolving internal dilemmas, is all about being content with how we manage and apply internally stored data in response to the expectancies of the wider World around us.

In short.... The GOD you rely upon is only to be found inside your head, and not floating around the universe somewhere.

Creation, the universe, life and death, remain an unsolved mystery.

From my perspective, creation, the universe, life and death are GOD.....And I am content with that.....No theistic labels required.

Go for it.

Voices should be heard.

Or we might miss something.

Auf Wiedersehen.

I once read that the space between the nucleus and the shell was relatively vast and empty.

And  therefore at an atomic level we are composed chiefly of empty space.

It all boils down to internal data management relative to sociological input and perception of physiological differences. The consequent output and transfer of data is regarded relative to the immediacy of the self relative to both the immediate and wider collective.

Data variations will inevitably occur over time, as physiological variations occur and perception and therefore sociological input varies accordingly. 

Though change has been slow, it is becoming slightly less slow.....Thanks mostly to technological communication and data transfer.

We previously relied upon the unreliability of word of mouth and then paper.

Heads down.....The screen tends not to lie....Doesn't it?

So what is the GOD that you believe in Jane?

I am atheist.

Though I accept the idea of GOD as being valid.

But it could be anything.

Acceptance is not belief.

Perhaps you are not a theist.

Encouraged with life.

Across the void

All thoughts and expectations reached 

No further than the atomic void

Within my cranium.

And stars cast images reflected back

Forever a prisoner 

Inside my own shell.

Death gained solace

As all energy explodes

That atomic void.

The misery of thought 

And impossibility

Forgotten

Forever.

Is your friend Peter Pan?

It's funny how some boyfriends never become men friends.

No offence intended.

Ashli Babbitt. Gone and largely forgotten...RIP.

Should have stayed at home.

Yep 

Perhaps the old way was best....Work, retire, heart attack...Game over.

Striving for decrepitude does seem somewhat futile.

I take care of myself too, so I'm hoping for a few more decent years yet though.

I've never seen the film.

So you're three years younger than me....Though I had my kids in my Early twenties....They are in their mid thirties now.....Wow the time has flown.

Here's hoping that we've got a few more decent years in us yet.

Regards.

The relative nature of celestial objects and phenomena is such that they have always aroused the human imagination.

Whether there is more to it than that (other that as a navigational or reference point)  is impossible to say.

It does no harm to imagine though.

It was just a general observation.

I work in the pharmacy industry and people demand and crave drugs, quite often when they don't actually need them and Doctors seem to quite happily prescribe them....And of course "Big Pharma" will sell them.

Such is humanities insecurity.

But as I always point out, life expectancy is twice what it once was, thanks to pharmaceutical and medical advances.

As for Covid...... There's a strong possibility that it was Lab produced, though whether it was intentionally leaked to create the ongoing vaccine situation is one for the conspiracy theorists.

Nonetheless, Covid is out there and shouldn't be taken lightly.

We agree then.

There are two basic premises.

Chance....(AKA GOD principle).

Purpose...(AKA GOD principle).

Fast forward several billion years to about 2000 years hence, and WE develop rational theism/deism.

Me thinks not.

Me thinks that WE create a GOD in our own image....(AKA rational atheism).

A fake is not fraudulent, unless it was intended to deceive.

And a picture is real, however it was produced.

And of course, there is the "Art" of deception.

And as I stated previously, it all boils down to money.

If money wasn't lost or gained, no one would care.

You would just be left with an item which you thought worthy or not, of wall decoration.

That's currently the known reality for sure.....So no criticism necessary.

But as I always state, the GOD principle represents something.

Floaty about blokes of story books are old hat, fantasy based, outdated, long shots....Perpetuated, because it is the human condition to transfer and remember data.

Sometimes we just cannot help ourselves.

Sort of contradicts the underlying sentiment of your opening statement.

Remember when you Gran died from cancer because there was no other options  available.

I must admit.

It's one of those conspiracy theories, that cannot be totally ignored.

And me the great sceptic that I am.

If someone does not succeed or things go wrong they  blame the success of others and look for appropriate labels.

It's a typical human response.

Jew, Muslim, Black, Asian, Chinese etc. are all discriminatory labels that are readily applied when the "white" chips are down.

And Semitism is something of a misnomer, as not all Semites are Jews and not all Jews are Semitic.

They're the companies that make the life sustaining drugs that billions of people crave and demand.

If you don't trust them, you can always knock up your own medicines in your basement lab.

The way I look at it is:

1. Most people  are vaccinated from birth against potentially debilitating or fatal infections. Covid undoubtedly falls into the category of potentially debilitating or fatal.

2. Over the past 200 years life expectancy has increased significantly, and vaccination plays a significant role in this increased expectancy.

3. All medical interventions come with a risk of side effects. 

4. We do not know the lingering side effects of many things.

5. Yet we do know the potential side effects of certain things, and we carry on regardless. Smoking, over consumption of alcohol, over consumption of processed food, poor diet generally, lack of exercise etc etc.

6. Age is not a guarantee, of risk from the debilitating and fatal effects of covid infection.

7. Life is a crapshoot anyway.

All things considered, I conclude that for me at 61 years of age, a healthy lifestyle and vaccination is a no brainer.

And I might be knocked of my bicycle tomorrow.

Head down and not manipulated.

I would suggest not.

Perhaps at best, there is a slight variation in manipulatory system.

For sure....You pay your money and make a decision dressed up as choice.

Statues stand around doing F all.

And humans remember things.

And memory is a Yin and Yang thing.

And Mr E has once again been cast into the wilderness for 30 days and 30 nights.

Completely depends upon what GOD might be.

The old book sought to explain GOD very presumptuously.

And some people develop a love of old books.

Metaphorically pertinent.

Basically cause and effect.

But knowledge has not yet exceeded the necessity for floaty about blokes.

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You capitulated, under the weight of rational, logical common sense.

Nonetheless, as I see it we are all here to entertain each other.

Exactly.

Hey.  If  the USA could afford free action adventure holidays in Afghanistan for the past  20 years. Then it can also afford a few domestic free lunches.

Debt....What debt?

Debt fallacy.

What is open minded.

A baby might be open minded, but accessibility goes downhill from thereon.

And the assumption of entrenchedness generally comes from an entrenched position.

And you professor tale is very Faux. 

Which if true would only lead one to conclude, that said professor was the more open minded of the two protagonists, and that the student was the product of a very entrenched upbringing.....Certainly not a prerequisite of truth.

One assumes that adhering to measures has decreased the statistical probability of said simplicity.

Underplaying from a position of relative security is also simple.

No such thing as workable communism.

Just a philosophers pipe dream.

All systems are hierarchical and maintained by varying levels of force, based upon varying ideologies.

Yep I see the Faux now.

Who was the idiot that sent troops to Afghanistan in the first place.

Didn't they remember anything about the futility of invading Asia.

Jibberish is as jibberish does Mr E.

It has to be said

There was no greater exponent of jibberish, than President Orange.

And then there are certain Ark theories.

Eternal potentials for sure

But where is the door?

To the dance floor

Of eternal existence.

Because you are Right, or because you think that you are correct?

TDS?

And I didn't refer to myself as conservative.

I merely suggested that I had a mildly conservative mind set relative to conditioning....See how you typically misrepresented this comment?

So if you are desperate to attribute political labels....Then MODERATE would perhaps be applicable.

And tolerance is respect for others and their conditioned mind set.....Mr E for example.

And I certainly hope that you treat Mrs E with a little more respect than that.

Our exchanges are usually tit for tat goading, interspersed with comment relative to the thread.

We're as good or as bad as each other in that respect.

Nonetheless, in said thread....And relative to your uncertainty regarding when such a biblical flood might have occurred.

I made pertinent references to how the geological time line and that of human evolution were unlikely to coincide at a point whereby the Earth might be entirely covered with water.....That is to say, before the formation of the continents and certainly before the development of homo-sapiens and the development of most of the creatures we see today.

You are clearly cherry picking unrelatable bits of scientific evidence, in order to overcome the improbability of an indeterminate biblical flood.

Now...... A certain amount of responsive goading is expected....But try not to avoid the above pertinent questioning this time.