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@sadolite
So for some people white will always be black.
Unless white is proven to be black.
The said people will undoubtedly change their minds.
Such is some peoples necessity.
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@949havoc
So the Bible is a mish mash of made up stuff.
We already know that.
And Mormon is just another Abrahamic business model.
So what's new?
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Explains the orange staining.
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@949havoc
Very Faux.
Getting the fuck out of Afghanistan.
And deposing the intellectually challenged Orange Man.
Two of the single most worthy accomplishments of recent U.S. history.
Good old Joe.
And inciting riots and refusing to admit that Orange lost the democratic vote, is democratic.....Hmmmmmm......LOL.
The Republicans need to give the jackboot to their current, us and them fascist mob and reassess their democratic credentials.
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@sadolite
"Negligible" or significant or globally significant?
As adjectives go "negligible" is perhaps a tad inappropriate.
Nonetheless, the "urban heat island effect" is an obvious example of how "man" influences climate.
The significance or negligibility of this effect may be argued over by "scientists", but the effect itself is indisputable.
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@Amoranemix
What is mythicist?
Just another data label we apply to a variable database.
So neurons fire and conditioned data is readily retrieved and applied.
And yet we are still no closer to an answer.
And so....Most religious hypotheses are largely embellished with nonsense.
Therefore I am awarded a badge.
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@949havoc
"The press" is a profit driven industry.
Why would one expect it to be free and fair.
Politics is also a profit driven industry.
So ditto.
You are the client and you make a choice, and you part with your cash accordingly.
Though sometimes your favourite brand isn't always in stock.
Which is a bummer, but it shouldn't stop you from getting up in the mornings and doing pretty much the same as you usually do.
And Captain Kirk finally made it.
It's life Jim.
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@Tradesecret
I also agree with you and Elijah.
#78.....What some ridiculous" baloney.
All meaningless ritual-speak.
OK...So it fires your conditioned neurons
As it fires my conditioned neurons
Such is meaning.
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@949havoc
Trouble is.
You make some good points.
But it often descends into abusive chaos.
Your conditioned political bias and intolerance dictates that:
Democrat always bad, even though they might actually sometimes get things right.
Republican always good, even though they might actually sometimes get things wrong.
If the Orange Man had said goosestep, would you have goosestepped?
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@secularmerlin
Conductors wave their arms about a lot.
But does anyone pay much attention.
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@BigPimpDaddy
If Tung Twista is currently your favourite rapper.
The why would we want to convince you otherwise.
I personally, do not enjoy rap.
To old.....So I was never conditioned to enjoy rap.
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@949havoc
I also do not eat cornflakes.
As they do not occur to me.
And brain chemistry is everything
Inextricably a part the universe.
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@EtrnlVw
Quite simply.
And despite what you might choose to believe.
No one can actually receive insight from spiritual beings or human souls.
End of story as far as I am concerned.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Hate......A powerful emotion.
And often referred to, glibly.
Once again.....If you are referring to me.
I love you Poly.....In so much as love is a glib word, used glibly.
Debate isn't about pats on the back.....Debate is generally about discussing conflicting ideas.
Disbelief Poly.....Nothing so intense as hatred.
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@Polytheist-Witch
If you're referring to me.
I never argue about the specifics of theism.
I just like to point out the general illogic that is popular theism....Inherited folk tales that some people place so much importance on.
As far as the tale goes.....The character Jesus was supposedly crucified by the Romans at the behest of the Jews, for the crime of heresy.
Nothing at all to do with mine or your sins......Just Middle Eastern, factional infighting.....Nothing new there.
Correct me if I'm wrong....But I think that the sin thing was made up later by a bloke named Paul.
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@sadolite
@Dr.Franklin
Two pearls of wisdom there.
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@secularmerlin
I agree.
Would therefore suggest that it's normal behaviour.
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@Tradesecret
So what I conclude from the above statement is:
You haven't actually got a clue.
I have heard all sorts of stories
Me too.
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@949havoc
Jesus died for our sins
What does shit like that even mean?
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It's out there to be baited.
And one could have put money on who would have been the first baitee past the post.
Poly...Evens Favourite.
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@secularmerlin
So when was that?
Certainly wasn't just a few hundred years ago, in the land mass now known as the U.S.A.
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@secularmerlin
Judging past events by todays standards.
Is easy peasy.
How do you think that you would have behaved back in the day aboard the Santa Maria?
Humanity has moved on 500 years, or hadn't you realised?
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@949havoc
When you consider the logistics of the operation, the Brit Empire whilst it lasted, was a pretty amazing achievement.
I'm not sure that you can prefix the US's endeavours in Iraq and Afghanistan with the word amazing.
And let's not even go to Vietnam or Korea.
Stand down.
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@sadolite
I think that it's fair to say that you have a jaundiced view of the pandemic.
But who do you think is the most scared.
The one behind the mask, or the one on the ventilator.
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@ILikePie5
100 million......Peanuts.
How much did you blow, fucking about in Places like Iraq and Afghanistan?
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@BigPimpDaddy
Right and wrong end up being what they are agreed to be, relative to a collective social decision.
Nonetheless, every notional "Crime" is still the real necessity of the notional criminal.
Perhaps we are not yet "Woke" to the rapists predicament..
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@BigPimpDaddy
Yep.
That's perhaps what happened back in the day.
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@secularmerlin
Nope.
People just moved about relative to ability, and established a new order to the global system.
It's an ongoing process.
Scroll backwards, and where do you stop worrying about the impact of social development?
Native Americans, Neanderthals, or the first organism that dragged itself from the sea.
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@secularmerlin
This whole discussion is conjectural. One wouldn't suggest otherwise.
My comment was just a logical development of our particular interaction.
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@secularmerlin
Yep.
That's what happened back in the day.
People thought and cared differently.
Some still do.
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@thett3
Is the Republican Party really about vision?
Or is the Republican Party about looking backwards?
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@secularmerlin
True.
Everywhere was where it always had been.
There was nothing to discover.
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@BigPimpDaddy
One World.
Everyone is indigenous.
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@949havoc
Yeah but in striving to be so unwoke, you are undeniably woke.
And what about the other issues I raised.
Did you try and avoid those?
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@secularmerlin
If humans were less selfish, then there would be less humans.
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@secularmerlin
Incorrect.
Intergenerational wealth as you refer to it, is just a small part of the global system of hierarchy.
You're too hung up on money and wealth in isolated situations, and not seeing the bigger global social picture.
Give some people a million dollars and they will blow it in a year.
Give someone ten dollars and they will make a million.
Ability creates wealth, creates hierarchy, creates social structure, which facilitates social function and progress.
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@949havoc
So Trump is going to retire gracefully to his Scottish Golf Course?
And you agree that the election wasn't rigged?
Or are you just hung upon wokeness?
As I stated elsewhere....For someone that claims to be unwoke.....You are about the wokest person on Dart.....Because you do keep harping on about it.
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@secularmerlin
The trouble is, we keep producing unnecessary people, who all expect to live for ever.
The planet's problem is too many selfish human beings.....Not methane.
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@secularmerlin
Money is what regulates the system, and therefore makes the system function.
Natural hierarchy dictates a persons place within the system and consequently their access to money.
Naturally acquired ability dictates social hierarchy.
It's what makes things progress.
Very few people starve and very few people own super yachts.
And some people worry about these things from the security of their niche, because they can.
But they are unlikely to change the system.
Because by the time they get to worrying age, it's usually too late to change.
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@EtrnlVw
Nice jibe.
So I accept any idea as a possibility.......Can you say that you do?
Even your GOD idea is a possibility.
But absolute acceptance of a single but unprovable idea, is undoubtedly one track.
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@secularmerlin
Trouble is...Theists promote a Godly universal cause and then dismiss the need for a cause of GOD.
Therefore, if we apply theistic rationale....Then the Universe doesn't need a cause.
Either the beginning was caused or it wasn't.....Same applies to both Universe and GOD.
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@secularmerlin
I whole heartedly agree.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Ah...But don't they?
Alternative output maybe.....But clearly relative to an established input.
A Bible itself is just a varied edition of an old story book.
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@BigPimpDaddy
In reality there's no such thing as communism or a socialist state.
Communism and socialism are the philosophical dreams of careless intellectuals.
All systems are based upon natural hierarchy.
Though control methodology may vary.
Your two main choices are reasonably liberal democracy or oppressive dictatorship.
Though in both cases, those at the top dictate, those at the bottom do the donkey work, and those in between fall into line.
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@secularmerlin
We could actually do everything at no cost.
But social structure dictates cost, and cost maintains social structure.
Same the World over.
Don't be deluded by socialist dreamers.
The whole picture is much much bigger than a few fat numpties and their dining habits.
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@949havoc
Woke is as woke does.
It has to be said, that your preoccupation with wokeness, makes you the wokest person in this conversation.
And when the swarthy dark haired saviour steps out of the spaceship talking Hebrew, how are you going to react?
Do most woke unwoke Americans think that his first words will be howdy y'all?
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