zedvictor4

What do you base your decision upon Doc?

I guessing it didn't take much thinking about.

Though to be fair, in terms of intellect, De Santis is perhaps everything that Trump wasn't.

Though I'm guessing that you would have voted for anything with a Republican label.

Top of the morning to ya Doc.

@ The weakeredge

As Janesix suggests......It's doing something stimulating, when we have the time to do so.

Sport has also become big business of course.

Though personally, I tend to find watching other people doing sport, somewhat tedious.

Except for Women's beach volleyball or Women's athletics perhaps....Which also relates to what Janesix was saying.....Joking

The only sporting events that I do watch are the big cycling grand tours......But that's more about the whole spectacle of the event, than about the competitive cycling per se.

Track cycling for example, is extremely tedious to watch.

#8

Your memory's not what it was Doc.

Everything apparently needs funding.....It's how the system works globally.

Wouldn't altruism be fantastic?

@RatMan

West is the other direction to East and can be anywhere relative to where ones focal point is.

The old notions of East and West relative to development, wealth, and global status  are just the old notions of East and West relative to...........

The focal point of the Earth no longer starts in Western Europe and ends in North America.

The focal point now very much starts in China and Ends wherever.

How about a Hall of Infamy?

1. No

2. No

3. No

Discrimination relative to perceivable difference, is a Global phenomenon relative to perceivable difference.

I think that what you are referring to, is celebrity racism relative to Social Media.

Because GOD isn't actually a floaty about bloke who cares..

The best that GOD is, if at all, is the fundamental principle of creation, matter  and material evolution which includes humanity....And maybe re-creation.

One might suppose that the whole material progression thing is purposeful, and therefore there is actually a purpose to humanity. Nonetheless this does not necessarily bestow any special favours upon us as individuals or as a species. If 6 million people perish because of our own stupidity then so be it, as long as we fulfil our evolutionary purpose, which would seem to be the proliferation of inorganic knowledge and technology.

GOD the bloke stories are old hat and outdated.....It's just that the power of memory has a tendency to make some of us nostalgic for the golden olden days, and still needful of other-worldly imaginings.

Why?

Because that is how a hierarchical system works.

Law and fairness is a secondary and variable issue, depending upon where one has either, the fortune or misfortune to be.

Sex.

Has generally come to mean gratification, rather than identity, and methodology is variable.

Physiological anomaly occurs in all aspects of function, so can only to be expected to occur in reproductive systems.

Generally though, most people fall into two categories. Ovum producer or sperm producer.

The species necessity is fertilization of the ovum....Fulfilment of the fundamental process, and therefore the continuation of the species.

Non-reproductive gratification and it's methodologies, is a concurrent issue defined by all sorts of sociological and perhaps environmental factors.

Nonetheless non-reproductive gratification is also, seemingly a natural species requirement.

Though, reading too much into issues concerning "sex" is also the human condition, relative to both human physiological development and human social development.

So a man wants to marry a man and have a puppy and a new fitted kitchen, and every now and then satisfy their reproductive urges.....Will they be smote down by the wrath of an angry GOD......Nah.

It's only other people who might smote them down,....Why?...Because  people have a tendency to overly concern themselves with the sexual methodology of others.

Ireland's never really been a shining example of tolerance. 

You can't even trust Leprechauns......Devious little so and so's.

Top of the morning to ya Doc.

Trouble is, tall and short isn't quite so lucrative.

It might be though.......If one was 8 feet tall and the other was three.

But probably, would still be billed as White Giant, bullies Black midget.  

Such is popular demand.

@Ratman.

They're both labels we apply to collective acts of human necessity and stupidity.

Christianity and Democracy are two other examples.

It's just the way that an intellectual Global society has evolved.

As long as the long term survival of the species is not overly affected, then there shouldn't be a problem.

As I've stated previously.

It was actually a bloke who rescued a few goats in a rowing boat.

These sort of stories have a habit of getting blown out of all proportion.

And Noah liked to grow roses up his reasonably sized arch.

Hey. If it passes the time of day, and you don't bother others unduly with it.

I personally have other things to do.

Nonetheless, what I would say is:

If there is a GOD, then there is only one GOD, and we're all dedicated to it anyway, whether we like it or not.....And a reasonable GOD wouldn't want to bother us unduly.

Trouble is though.....We've absolutely no real proof, that there is a Christian GOD......Only a loosely translated and transcribed book of Arabian myths and legends.

And of course, other versions of the GOD principle, are available.

Technically Chernobyl is in the Ukraine.

And was formally a region of the USSR.

And nuked most of Northern Europe, including the U.K.

Three mile Island, also springs to mind.

Soviet, American or British.......I'm not sure if any nuke is a good nuke.

Guantanamo.....Considering the size of the U.S....One wonders why they needed to rent a bit of land from the Cubans.

Afghanistan based terrorists or U.S. terrorists......Both self righteousness  in defence of the ideological.

All the same old shit Eugene.

This is non-specific.

What do you mean exactly?

The universe is a system.

So if one cannot ever be independent of a system, then solipsism is solved.

How do we judge the gullible?

You might as well just say that Goddo made fossils for a laugh.

For sure Doc.

It would be interesting to see and hear what Debatearters are actually like, in the flesh.

@SupaDupa

How can one accidentally use a gun instead of a gun?

Totally depraved might be nearer the mark.

Totally deprived suggests a troubled upbringing, which by modern standards, we should treat with sensitivity.

Creation then evolution....Works fine for me.....No God required.....GOD principle maybe.

Creation - Evolution - Decay - Recreation - Evolution - Decay etc etc.....No problem.

Primary initiative (Something from Nothing) is problematic though.

BIG BOOM from nowhere....God from nowhere...Same problem.

Perhaps trees know the answer?

And Mandrakel may well be the root of the Tree of Knowledge.

And Religious marketeers see the benefit of embracing sexual deviation in all it's glory......Hallelujah.

If you recall, it was once an absolute requirement of the Fathers RC Club.

And lying with mankind, as with woman.......Maybe missionary and doggy were the biblical distinctions.....But perhaps Old  Abraham just wasn't quick enough with the chisel.

Joking aside.....I firmly believe that the Bible was a book/code of practice written by Men, for Men and Women.

Citing a supernatural guy up a mountain somewhere, as justification, was a tad audacious.....But some people will believe anything.

And Hitler only had one....Or so they say. 

@RatMan

Shaivism.....Worship of a humanesque godhead.

Sounds somewhat familiar......But with an Indian twist.

Not pussy footing, inevitably leads to oversights.

Are your thoughts, the same as my first thoughts?

Well I'm visibly male and my wife and daughters are visibly  female.

How others might approach the issue, is totally up to them.

Rare physiological anomalies excepted of course....But males who think that they are female, despite efforts to the contrary, still have a tendency to look masculine and vice versa....Such is visual perception.....You can spot them a mile, off as it were.

A separate issue perhaps?

An unwarranted, unfounded and unnecessary jibe at a popular hypothesis and it's adherents.

Behaviour that  might reasonably be deemed to be indicative of a lower I.Q.

The pot calling the kettle black, as it were.

Though, that is not to say, that an overbearing ideological upbringing,  will not affect intellectual diversity.

Yep, well considered.

Call it ecstasy, call it frisson, call it spirituality.

I will refer to it as a (positive) internal response to an external stimuli.

Music lifting your spirits, as it were.....Like sunshine.

But don't forget that you can easily over do it......Repetition will ultimately result in apathy, or sunburn.

@RatMan

Doc's position is on his veranda, in his rocking chair, plucking his banjo, sipping poteen and muttering all sorts of blarney.

Watched over by a statue of the Virgin Mary of course.

Well, in my imagination.

@Theweakeredge.

As Faux suggested.

Survey is far too long and intricate.

I was instantly disinterested.

If your survey is sincere, and you want a broad spectrum of input, then you need to grab peoples attention.

Or is it really just for your young, Debateart mates?

@RatMan

You seemed to be going a bundle on my I.Q. thread.

Of course  the placebo itself, does diddly squat.

And you explained everything else perfectly.

Nice one.

For sure....Theories abound.

But steady state requires the continuous creation of matter.

So same old questions still persist.

Though the basic question is, how can anything exist at all....And therefore applies to all theories.

As I often say...All theories start at 1, never 0.

Can you explain 0 - 1?

The stupid thing is, that placebos are effective when the problems are imaginary.

And I did make it clear, that certain physiological malfunction is obviously  irrefutable.

@RatMan.

Athias and FLRW, eventually solved these, page 4....So don't look, if you want to work them out.

Not quite there with the first one yet....But on the right track.

Notwithstanding irrefutable physiological malfunction.

The powers of suggestion and positivity, should perhaps, also be taken seriously.

Hypochondria and self abuse are very common conditions.

Tell people about the reported side effects of Covid vaccine....And Surgeries will be inundated with sufferers.

Tell people that GOD loves them....What the heck....But if it makes them feel good.

Nowt as funny as folk.

Skin colour/tone is a distinctive identifier, because it is a distinctive identifier.

It's a basic physiological process, thanks to the eye department.

Same with all sensory identifiers.

Why is music?

Why is sugar sweet?

Why is Sandpaper rough?

Why does S**t stink?

@Thewaeakeredge.

What is persucted?

Exactly.

Perhaps it takes a deluded nitwit to know one.

If you think you're going to make a difference.

Nonetheless.

GOD principle sound......But, floaty about bloke of the Arabian tales, that's another story.

Miss factual.....It must be all those Chakras.

Yep I see the resemblance.

Me and you..... We're like peas in a pod.

There speaks a person of intellect I assume.

Everything that you suggest above, I have suggested a thousand times before...And a thousand others have also suggested the same.

Nothing new Mr Intellect.

And I'm certain that the opposing responses, will also be nothing new or devastatingly intellectual.

Marketing ideology, is simply that......No different to selling snow to Eskimos, or sand to Arabs.

Clever people and idiots, as it were.

Depends how hot is hot and how cold is cold.....Relative to both, external environmental conditions, and social circumstances.

Hot beverages at a Caribbean beach party or Cold beverages al fresco at the South Pole, for example.

Not something that can be honestly studied in a controlled environment.

Are you me?

What are FREE and NOT FREE.

Where actually is the dividing line between concept and reality?....Or is there a division at all?....Concept is internally real I suppose.

One might dare to suggest that health or Ill health actually manifests in reality, and that monetary value always remains a concept.

Do we not actually just measure one persons effort against another's, on the bases of acquired  importance and inherent selfishness.