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@Barney
@Intelligence_06
No, it is not.It is however a decent place to go.
Struck me as being a tad contradictory.
It is either reliable or it is not.
If it is not reliable, then it is not "a decent place to go".
Doc Franklin summed it up much better.
And any general compilation of information for reference use, is obviously going to be a secondary source. It's the nature of the beast, as it were.
Wiki is an excellent quick reference source.
And it amuses me that people knock it.
A tad pretentiously, me thinks.
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@Ratman
The U.K. symbol for pound weight is lb with a dash through it. From the Roman, libre pondo....Though the dash is usually omitted. The American use of the hash symbol to represent pound weight was derived from the original crossed lb symbol.
The symbol for pounds sterling is £.
And the hash symbol or number sign as used in social media, has been referred to as hashtag since about 2007.
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@RatMan
How you can read racism into that post, I don't know.
Luckily shadow_72 has a bit more up top than you do, and understood my comments in the way that they were intended.
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@shadow_712
It's interesting that clever Indians still regard "the west" as a means of improvement.
I can't speak for U.S. society..... But here in the U.K. people of the Indian sub-continent are just a part of the furniture, as it were. Look at the current Conservative government for example....Rishi, Priti, Sajid and Alok to name but a few.
Hope all goes well in the U.S.
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@PGA2.0
How do you know this?
Exactly my point.
Whether or not a GOD principle is actually relevant, is unknown, and therefore speculative.
All that we can be reasonably certain of, are the abilities of human function and derived facts thereof.
So, no human no fact.
There might be other stuff...But we can only speculate, because we can.
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The word death is non-specific.
It can describe the whole process, of decline to non-existence.
So, alive or dead.
And though I struggle to find a specific word, the moment of cross over, might be referred to as passing.
I do not read too much into things, whereas some people seem to find it necessary to do so.
Not directed specifically to creation. Possibly more to Jesus.
How about unpacking this statement.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Well......You said it was crap.
And I take part because it is interesting to do so.
If you care to look at post#2, you will see that I gave a full answer to the question.
Was your post#5 serious or not. If so, can you substantiate the claim made therein....
"The spirit doesn't die it goes on forever".
I think that it is fair to refer to such statements as supposition.
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@Intelligence_06
The legal drinking age you mean.
Not that a legal drinking age is going to stop kids from drinking.
Over here, legality only really applies to the selling of alcohol.
The consumption of alcoholic drinks, is pretty much recognised as unpoliceable....As is sex between minors.
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@drlebronski
Why can't a gay person marry a women?
Gay is as gay does.
Methods of achieving sexual satisfaction are numerous and varied....Who one might or might not be married to is proven to be irrelevant.
Interestingly you're still using old social stereotyping....And still having to justify how people behave sexually.
It strikes me that people are not quite as liberated as they think they are.
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@Intelligence_06
It's separated by gender, by tradition.
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@Tradesecret
Did you only see one word in my previous post?
Avoiding the answer, as it were.
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@SkepticalOne
An old song is an old song.
So are we therefore going to judge every recorded narrative?
And what's the point of judging dead people?....Other than to achieve smug satisfaction.
And did you only read one line of my previous post?
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@PGA2.0
No brain no fact.
Definition is also the result of internal process.
So no brain, no definition, and no fact.
Something can only be known to be a fact or defined, if it can be known to be a fact and defined.
Therefore, without the ability to know, something cannot be known to be, or be defined ...So no fact and no definition.
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@Tradesecret
Hmmm.
Is this about a word and it's possible applications.
Or just a roundabout way of making a point, relative to a specific creation hypothesis.
Nonetheless.
Dead is the antonym to living or alive.
Whereas death can variously, precede an event, be subsequent to an event, be an event or be the embodiment of an event.
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@SkepticalOne
Judging history by todays standards is arrogant.
And overlooks what was/is the inevitability of human evolution and human social evolution, relative to the acquisition of knowledge and associated capability.
The modern arguments are just the manifestation of ongoing mutual racism, relative to perceivable differences.
Socially acceptable slavery is what kept/keeps society ticking.
What was once acceptable, may not be now.
But social hierarchy always dictates a degree of subservience.
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@oromagi
Depends upon who chooses to interpret the verdict.
Courts make decisions, but cannot necessarily change peoples minds.
Legally, one would assume that he is no longer deemed to be guilty....Which is exoneration.
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@Tarik
Unless something can be known , then what?
Presumably it still would be....But that wouldn't be a fact unless it could be known.
Facts are internal knowledge, not external events that cannot be known.
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@Tarik
Nope...This means things are.....The viewer/s create the facts.
So.... No viewer....Things still are....But no one to create facts.
Let me spell it out....A fact, is a human data construct, relative to something......A fact isn't the something.
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@Stephen
You just described, exactly what I stated.
Though you failed to the acknowledge the similar "explosion of hatred" towards Islam.
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@Stephen
Well.... Issues surrounding the novel in question, were media driven by both camps, in respect of the social climate.
As I stated somewhere....Nutcases can incite the gullible.
Nutcases, as in people who have tendency to over think, zealously.
Most people would happily not over bother themselves, if left to make up their own minds.
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@Yassine
To think that I hold bigotries is to not know me.
Let's have a beer (alcoholic or non-alcoholic) and talk football.
Or fruit juice...Muslims are good at fruit juice.
I do not have any answers to the big question, and I'm also confident that you don't.......Now that's not bigoted....Just realistic.
To assume that one does have unquestionable answers, could be regarded as being a tad arrogant.
Do you think that your answers are unquestionable?
I share this sort of data, usually, in the mornings between 7 and 9 am. After which I don't consider it at all.
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@Tarik
These quotes are logical sequences.
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@Yassine
Yes.
Perhaps Perhaps Perhaps......This perfectly sums up, the ongoing contention.
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@Dr.Franklin
In all honesty Doc, I'm generally not a particularly serious person.
Though I believe that I can be sensible when circumstances necessitate.
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@sadolite
Well.
Species and individual survival are what is driven instinctively......But of course, we embellish with concept driven add-ons.
Mr Badger is just conceptually embellishing what he is sub-consciously being instructed to do.
True abstinence is a very rare feat of extreme will power....Hence Priests and Choirboys, and LGBTQ and all that palaver.
Nonetheless, it's all human nature at the end of the day.
And when you get to our age, you begin to realise, that sex isn't everything....But of course, in reality, it always was.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Of course.
Why do you ask?
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@Athias
Trump was obviously selected.
"Hence, Trump.....And then not Trump".
I just used this phrase to emphasise either the fickleness or solicitousness, of the floating voter.
Elections select.....And despite all the razzmatazz of an electoral circus, selections are often made by the non-affiliated minority....."People who care to think about it".
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Health is a generalisation.
Decline would suggest that said patient was in poor health, or maybe, lacked good health.
The phrase used was "The structural integrity".
The said structure obviously lacked integrity.
So a correct statement should have read something like....The structural fragility of the building, meant that it was at risk of collapse.
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@Wylted
The structural integrity of the building was at risk of collapse.
Apart from being a grammatically inept statement, this is also a contradiction in terms.
The building either had structural integrity, or it was at risk of collapse.
Collapse would suggest, that said building, lacked structural integrity.
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@Yassine
Islam is a religion of peace.
Try telling that to all Muslims.
In all fairness, all the Muslim labelled humans that I know are peaceable, and in predominately Muslim countries, I have always been treated well.
Nonetheless, ideologies foster nutcases, and nutcases can incite the gullible....Look at the climax of the recent U.S. Presidential election for example.
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@sadolite
@badger
I've pushed 60.
And long since realised that we are controlled by instinct.
Free will my arse.....(Not literally please).
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@Tarik
So currently, what other knowledge of facts is there other than human knowledge?
For sure, communication isn't vital, though communication obviously assists the spread and advancement of knowledge.
What you are actually saying is:
Things are, irrespective of a viewer.
And I agree.
But it is only a viewer that can attribute things with factuality.
No viewer....Things...But no facts.
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@Yassine
1. One assumes that GOD is the foundation of all popular Abrahamic religions....Or are you saying that there is more than one.
2. Stating things is what we do.
3. Everything relates to senses...Data in, data processing, data storage, data modification and data out.....Otherwise zero.
4a. So you can't then.
5. What isn't?....See 3.
6. See 3.
7. Nice English
8. There is more than one way to define unexplainable. See explain.....Though unexplainable was your choice.
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@Yassine
Can you say one intelligible relevant thing.
Now whose questioning themself in the mirror.
Religious speak is hardly intelligent...Just the product of rote learning.
Intelligence advances material evolution....Theistic ideology stagnates.
Maybe conditioned theism is an inevitable and necessary counterbalance...Perhaps it would be foolish for humanity to peak to early.
1. Perhaps GOD is a delusion, and therefore belief in the delusion is arrogance.....So two possibilities then.
2. As far as we are able to know, all qualities are human concepts. Otherwise, things just are, and cannot be attributed quality.
3. Presumably there would be one GOD. To suggest otherwise would be to admit something.
4. How does one gain truth through the rote learning of another individuals social ideology, based upon an archaic and fantastical hypothesis.
Thou shalt do, because I believe a guy met a GOD up a mountain, and therefore because I say so...And I might get these blokes to stone you to death if you don't.
The brutal enforcement of religious and social ideology was once the standard....In fact, I think that it still is in certain places....And I also think that some people do rightly question this aspect of GOD.
And the "future" example is simply an irrelevant truism.
5. ?
6. Which word.
7. See above.
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@Tarik
Typical Tarik.
It is also true that there are potatoes, regardless of cabbages.
Though, without your ability to perceive and communicate, you would have no facts.
As an insentient blob you might or might not, be aware of your own reality.
You would have to ask an insentient blob though......And therein lies the problem.
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@Dr.Franklin
It's what's known as tradition and culture, Doc.
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@FLRW
Hm....Nutcases often have high IQ's
And a high IQ is no guarantee of common sense.
And neither is a high IQ a guarantee of achievement or success.
And elections are usually decided by the people that care to think about it anyway.
Hence Trump...And then not Trump.
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@Tarik
What do you mean?
For us to communicate, we firstly have to be able to perceive....Input, and then process and output data.
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@Yassine
Some might say that, "for they are arrogant" is itself pretty arrogant.
"What is a conscious GOD"......Not an unconscious GOD.
"What is a bothered GOD"......Not a disinterested GOD.
Presumably if one is a fairly strict adherent to a religious ideology, then one accepts a conscious and bothered GOD....(Correct me if I am wrong). Otherwise how do ardent theists conclude that their prophets speak the truth?
"Is this a political description or a philosophical one"......No, an attempt at a realistic one.....Politics and philosophy are derivatives of the aforementioned process.
As is an attempt at realism of course.....As is everything I suppose ...Including the assumption of the matter of the universe.
But for now, let's work with a basic tenet...I think therefore I am.
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@Yassine
1. Of course you can what?.....Your Ebuccian equation proves zero.
2."Thus make partners" etc....Religious speak....This proves zero.
3. I asserted nothing...I made an observation.....Can you invalidate my observation?
4a. No just another observation....Can you actually invalidate my observation?
5. A cup is a cup......Though perception and data management allows you to come to this conclusion.
6.Hm....
4b....In terms of everything, unexplainable is therefore unknowable. Yes indeed.
Yes...All my best English
Hypotheses that suggest a reason for the unknowable....Or unexplainable, depending upon how one chooses to split hairs.
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@Nyxified
Homophobe, heterophobe.
Intolerance for sure.
A. Go ask.
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@Tarik
Perception is irrelevant.
Perception is everything.
No perception...Nothing....Zero....No reality......No available facts.
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@badger
Poetry Mr Badger.
Q. How can you tell the difference between a Police horse and a Cowboys horse.
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@Greyparrot
What you need, to unite the Nation.
Is a good old skirmish with those commi bastards in the East....(Or the West depending on which way you care to look).
It's no good just picking on those little old Middle Eastern States or bombing the f**k out of some poor old Afghan goat farmer.....People are tired of that.
Twin towers is history...There's more pressing things to consider now, like LBGTQ rights and all that kind of stuff.
Let's go invade Crimea and liberate all those annexed Q's..... Or Tibet and liberate all those trans Buddhists.
Are you with me Mr Parrot?
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@Nyxified
Which Planet do Police come from exactly?
You would soon notice the difference if there were no Police.
The next Pride March would undoubtedly be accompanied with right wing, religious lunatics in cammo, armed to the teeth.
Some people don't quite know when they're well off.
Liberals need Police to enforce liberalism in a liberal society.
Go try organise an Iranian Pride March and see how you get on there.
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