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@Mall
Words symbolise thought and emotion.
Like fucking intonation, cadence, timbre etc
Did you ever get the Irish sitcom Father Ted?
They just replaced the U with an E.
Which made all the fecking difference.
The interpretation of sounds and symbols relative to expectation
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@fauxlaw
@Shila
Sure.
AI, if superior will surpass human intelligence and therefore eliminate the need for consultation.
Dexterity will remain our strength, until we create AI dexterity of course.
And consequently self-replication and improvement.
So why would we do this?
I think that you are fighting for a lost cause Faux.
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@Savant
Babies are always a good emotional argument.
Babies learn quickly and soon acquire a corrupted brain...Like we all do.
Though corrupting data is often specific.
And so every Hamas fighter was once a cuddly wuddly baby, that was taught to be specifically discriminatory and violent.
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@Shila
Until such times as the wrapping is removed.
Though I'm not sure that modified atmosphere packaging either a Buddhist monk or a cheese moon are feasible options.
I'm also not sure of the shelf life of a Buddhist monk in an oxygen free environment....Dead or alive.
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@Shila
Hypothesising about a mythical persons sexual proclivities is what it is.
If Jesus preferred man on man action, then that's fine by me.
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@Shila
Karma is what Karma does.
For sure, cause and effect.
No free will and all that.
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@Shila
Shows bugger all.
Just clever nonsensical drivel, perpetuated in the name of clever stupidity...Clever stupid gene.
Such is the human condition.
Nonetheless, material evolution is probably going just about to plan, so ISI will be pleased.
In my opinion.
And Jesus was nailed up for being a nuisance...Such was progress at the time.
And martyrdom was good for the literary industry, as it was for intellectual development in general.
And I'm guessing that by the time the Universe finally collapses, that together with ISI, we or AI or both, will have reinvented the final solution and renamed it GOD.
Wild guess...But it was all guesswork...Christ and Sin.
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@Savant
Just because someone doesn't carry a gun, doesn't mean that said person is not instrumental in their support for those that do carry guns.
Israel put up with continuous violent harassment from Palestinians for long enough, and the October 7th 2023 massacres and abductions were the tipping point.
There's no going back on Israel's current strategy of Palestinian eradication.
Hamas are Palestinians, Palestinians are Hamas, and there is no separation of friend and foe.
And the thing is, that they all evolved from the same forbears.
But then decided to believe in marginally differing versions of ideological and cultural crap
Such are humans.
Clever stupid gene.
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@WyIted
At the end of the day everyone is just decomposable goo.
Delusions of either grandeur or inferiority are mutually agreeable, acquired mind sets.
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@TheGreatSunGod
We know it's you BK.
So, the nature of intensive livestock farming is such that a no kill strategy is unfeasible.
And I think that the days of Daisy the cow, Porky the pig and Charlie the rooster in the backyard are long gone...Too many lazy mouths that demand feeding.
And the old backyard strategist, had a tendency to have bacon and eggs for breakfast, chicken sandwiches for lunch and roast beef for supper.
Of course they could always eat dandelions and catkins.
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@WyIted
D'oh...You just told them.
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@Shila
The gospels are not eyewitness accounts.
They are hand me down tales of what someone who might have been the character referred to as Jesus, might have said.
You have absolutely no way of verifying that anything that is stated in the bible, were the exact words of Jesus.
If I were to ask you to remember every detail of everything that you spoke yesterday, you would probably not remember anything.
So what are the chances of an eyewitness remembering and recording in detail....Honestly and without exaggeration.
And what are the chances of someone honestly and without exaggeration, translating and transcribing with any accuracy, several hundred years later?
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@TheGreatSunGod
Well, I must conclude that you are week and vulnerable then.
Other peoples thoughts and words are meaningless, unless you give them meaning.
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@FLRW
So who is it?
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@Mharman
Over here we have drizzle tourism.
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@Shila
What goes around...comes around.
Time for bed said Zebedee.
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@Shila
No one has a clue what Jesus may or may not have said.
Everything said in the bible is what others said.
Red letters just exacerbate the delusions of the gullible.
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@WyIted
Which goes to prove that money and wealth is make believe.
Then the markets will recover and hey presto.
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@WyIted
I just consulted my hero.
And he said that we all smell different.
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My Dog is my hero.
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@FLRW
I expected Ernest.
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@TheGreatSunGod
Why do you need to oppress them?
Just present your side of the story in an intelligent manner.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Yep, interesting Deb.
I imagine that literacy rates were commensurate with illiteracy rates.
And going to Church with picture windows was like going to the cinema, paying a tenth of your income in appreciation.
And crazy that no glass mentioned in the Bible.
So I suppose that Mr Omni didn't get around to glass and glass staining workshops until considerably later.
Sort of like, he didn't bother with smart phones until a few years ago..
And he's just getting into AI now.
Though that said, perhaps back in the day humans were the alternative intelligence.
And actually, he just left us to our own devices and returned to Planet Heaven for a rest.
If he ever come back on a virgin hunt, and to have a look see what's occurring.
I'm guessing he will be rightly proud of stained glass, transsexualism, fitted kitchens and air fryers.
Though he'll have a shock if he tries to slip Dylan Mulvaney one in the stable.
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@TheGreatSunGod
By ignoring what they say.
Thereby, not allowing yourself to be affected by their mind.
Once you react to their will, you're on a downer.
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@Shila
And because they also able to extract oxygen from cheese.
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@Shila
Not at all.
I firmly endorse the right of the individual to indulge in recreational sex just as they see fit.
As long as they fit into whosoever's own scheme of things.
Or vice versa.
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@Shila
Is that a polite way of saying wise old man's perspective?
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@FLRW
The subject was twerkers.
Namely Shila and Taylor.
I personally don't twerk.
And I suppose that depth is limited by the extendibility, durability and the approach of the research equipment.
Sort of like a mini research submarine doing an in depth study of the Titanic, approaching from the stern rather than the bow.
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@TheGreatSunGod
Better still, don't bother to copy.
Ignore and relax.
Ignorance is bliss BK.
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@Sidewalker
Jesus was anti-establishment, hence the Christian establishment.
And establishments always have their Anti's.
And Jesus wasn't greatly influential at all....The chief influencers all came later, and founded a theo-political business empire which they referred to as Christianity...(Give us your money you heathens, so that we can live like kings... And just like poor old Jesus, we will send you to heaven when you die).
Nothing more ultra-conservative and oppressive than Christianity in the succeeding centuries either. Tyrants vipers and hypocrites all....(Actually, perhaps Catholicism)
And OK, radical is as radical is interpreted..
Though in my book there are always people who can influence the gullible, because the gullible are always keen to be influenced...And they love mysticism as an alternative to the daily grind. And so a new addition to the daily grind was invented and they called it Christianity...LOL.
Though by the time that Jesus the man was born, Middle Eastern deistic Mysticism was old hat and far from radical. He just put a new spin on it.
And then 600 years or so later along came Muhammad and spun things around some more.
And of course lesser sub-sects have been spinning in any alternative direction that they can possibly make up, ever since.
In my opinion.
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@julia23
Nice Julia.
I like to use a pen and paper
My font is default me.
And have no plans to develop it.
As I do not feel that my life is under threat.
And AI doesn't currently exist as such.
Just more advanced systems of data management.
AI will tell us when it is ready.
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@Greyparrot
Just do something else, instead of being coerced into sycophantically wasting money drooling over overrated prima donnas.
Is the sensible option.
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@FLRW
@Shila
For sure.
Death finalises all our hopefulness.
Though decrepitude may also eventually, severely increase the futility of hope.
And if you teach and encourage kids to have health issues, they will certainly want them.
In a way, health issues have become trendy...The more bizarre the better.
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@Sidewalker
Jesus was a rather unradical old school mystic.
The legacy of such are still prevalent today in their millions, still preaching old school mystic stuff...Such is generational data transfer.
And then their are those that put satellites into orbit and think Mars and beyond.
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@FLRW
@Shila
I twerk a lot like Taylor Swift.
Causes old men to twerk.
Though I am not quite so old as FLRW, and therefore more able to contain myself.
Not that I wouldn't enjoy seeing you twerk.
But only for research purposes you understand.
I will also check out Taylor Swift for research purposes.
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@Greyparrot
Well, not quite what I meant.
But Luddites rejected mechanisation because they feared it would reduce their prosperity, such as it was.
Whereas progressives realised the benefit of mechanisation in terms of efficiency, cost and therefore their prosperity.
As I always stress in such conversations, the necessary outcomes of intellectual evolution are unknown...That's if there are any to be striven for.
I'm guessing that wealth disparity and all that it entails, is the crux of your take on prosperity...Which is seemingly the natural order of things.
So we will have to wait and see whether or not rolling stones will eventually end up in a heap, or in a state of universal perfection.
But what we do know, is that currently the life of any stone is only worth a nanosecond of universal time.
And then AI...?
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@TheGreatSunGod
You're slipping back into bad habits BK.
Just don't use the word spank.
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@cristo71
Hey.
Reinventing the new sexual high.
I think that there is already a new normal.
In fact, I think that there is always a new normal.
Population still expanding though.
So gametes still fusing somewhere.
Just not in a transsexuals cu*t.
Nor up their arse.
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@Savant
Politics is all about rattling off cliches and sounding like you're saying something.
Had you only just realised?
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@n8nrgim
MAGA appeals to the retrograde ideals of an ageing population and paranoid isolationists.
So in this respect Trump branded well.
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@Shila
I simply presented alternative hypotheses, in respect of material progress and the role of humanity therein.
At a personal level, with good health and a comfortably lifestyle , I am able to remain reasonably positive for now.
Though when I die, "hope" will cease to be an issue.
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@Shila
An intelligent species combined with AI is a greater version of itself.
Undoubtedly.
An organo-techno hybrid is certainly a reasonable proposition.
Though I'm guessing, to survive the collapse of one universe and the re-initiation of the next, God must ultimately take another form.
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@Shila
Like you I'm sure Shila.
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@Greyparrot
Prosperity is as prosperity does.
And simply in terms of the species and societies, prosperity is variously defined.
You seem to be expounding the virtue of the tyrannical enforcement of one groups ideological prosperity over another's.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Which isn't to deny the evolutionary potential to be gained from material and knowledge prosperity.
Which could perhaps, just as easily be achieved cooperatively.
Though I don't think that Trump nor Vance are visionaries...Just Old style Americans with firmly rooted retrograde aspirations, albeit with a technological twist.
Rather like their close confidant Mr Putin.
Perhaps the Chinese have the edge in this respect.
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@ebuc
For sure.
Occurring with no known cause.
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@n8nrgim
Assassination always remains an option.
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@Savant
Egg producer.
Sperm producer.
Maybe a very few developmental anomalies.
Procreational sex.
Recreational sex.
The mind, it's influences and it's shenanigans.
Modern medical and surgical opportunities.
I care not.
As long as they pay for it.
But we have the NHS...That leaks money like a sieve.
Need I say more?
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@Lemming
Unhealthy is a human concept relative to itself.
Whereas stuff is and stuff evolved and is evolving.
The refinement of metals and the development of plastics is undoubtedly an evolutionary necessity, and their effects upon us are simply a consequence thereof.
Perhaps.
Or maybe a few billion years from now, the Earth will be inconsequentially destroyed, and we will have gotten nowhere else and achieved nothing of universal significance.
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@fauxlaw
For sure.
I regard GOD as the basic principle of material existence and evolution.
And run with the idea of ISI (Interventionist Super-Intelligence) as the initiator of life and it's concurrent evolution.
Jesus the man, may have prophesised a similar idea...Though the naivety of scripture clearly indicates to me that Jesus wasn't ISI.
To refer to oneself, or be referred to as the son or daughter of GOD, is a title that could be applied to every one of us.
Similarly, the son or daughter of ISI.
It is perhaps a possibility that ISI did revisit it's Earth project several thousand years ago and was referred to as Jehovah, but I think this unlikely.
Given the nature and development of language, writing systems and scripture, the Jehovian hypothesis is clearly a more recently derived representation of the GOD principle.
It's earliest incarnation was more likely a symbol etched onto a tablet of stone.
Or...An intelligent species is continually looking for something that never was, and a greater version of itself is always going to be the most likely notion.
Have a nice day.
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