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A poem for 2025 America.
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@Shila
Yep.

Greyparrot always welcome.

You too.
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@FLRW
@Shila
Written or chiselled.

But yep, sort of proves that there was other stuff, before they invented the OT, and later Christianity.


And scholars are as scholars want to do.


So FLRW is a scholar because he knows stuff, and can confirm a 5500 year old clay tablet.

And seemingly stuff occurred in Mesopotamia, long before Moses went hiking.


And presumably stuff happened 5500 years before that...So I am a scholar too.
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It is impossible to believe in one God or consider God as the only source of truth.
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@Shila
Yep.

From a "Western" perspective, Buddhists and Buddhist ritual seems different, cool and funky...I get that.

But you know Shila...See a Buddhist, be a Buddhist, be a radical thinker.

And leave the science to the scientists.


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Darwin and the Enlightenment
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@Dr.Franklin
Hey Doc.

I'm not big on belief.


So

Enlightenment, enbbrightenment, enshinyment.

Think of a fairly recent period in time and give it a gleaming title...So what?

Previously we had a stagnant period where absolutely nothing whatsoever occurred, so we named it the dark ages...HaHa.

It's just more of the seemingly unimportant, yet seemingly important stuff, that cool radical people do to fill the time of day.


So scientists did stuff, whereas philosophers could only talk about it.

And Darwin theorised the evolution of species, and the elightened ones went blah blah blah....As they often do.


Begorrah.
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@Shila
It's all in the eyes of the beholder.

Very true.
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@Dr.Franklin
Hey Doc.

Philosophy is not science.

In so much as it does not need to substantiate or even test it's ideas.


Which isn't to say that theoretical science will not have a philosophical basis.


I would suggest, that there is sometimes a murky difference between the objectives and intentions of the relative protagonists.


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Vegetarian no kill animal farms produce more food?
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@Shila
I haven't starved any kittens or puppies.

Or baby elephants.
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@Shila
It survived over 2 thousand years.

What? 

The nonevidence based collective assumption made by a few "biblical scholars", that a guy named Moses might have put chisel to stone.

Were they reincarnated Buddhists?
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It is impossible to believe in one God or consider God as the only source of truth.
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@Shila
Same old, same old.

I think that my case is proven Shila.

Have a good weekend.
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A poem for 2025 America.
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@Greyparrot
Good one.
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It appears that jesus souley died for, HOT CROSS BUNS.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Yep. Good story Deb.

Good story.

The alternative ending was...The End.

Not much profit in that though.

And just think, no chocolate eggs, no HCB's and no days off work.

So thanks J.

Enjoy the weekend, Deb and J both.
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A poem for 2025 America.
A Zedku for the USA 2025.


Orange man, orange man
Orange man orange man.
Red hat red hat
Red hat red hat.
Blue states blue states
Blue states blue states
Greenland Greenland
Greenland Greenland
White supremacy white supremacy
White supremacy white supremacy
Black minority black minority
Black minority black minority
Yellow peril yellow peril
Yellow peril yellow peril.
Tariffs.
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Whiteflame’s birthday
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@Vader
Don't forget to call by Wales.
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It would be easy to get the deficit under control with modest changes
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@n8nrgim
S'all a computer game now.

Soon to be under AI control.

Cash under the mattress will soon be waste paper.

Buy Gold and hide it.
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@Shila
You've just repeated the same brief list of either Tibetan scientists or scholars who perhaps had/have a penchant for the Buddhist lifestyle and Buddhist philosophy.

None of your actual Buddhists from the list of top 1000 scientists.
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@Shila
Pitiful perhaps.

Puppies, kittens and baby elephants are cute.
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@Shila
Like I suggested. 

Out of a very small clique of biblical scholars, perhaps a majority will hold similar views about Moses and his writing skills.

Though perhaps we should say chiselling skills.


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@Deb-8-a-bull
Hey Deb.


Q.   What do you get if you cross a hot sausage with hot cross buns?

A.   A creamed puff...Yum Yum...A succulent bun oozing with whipped cream.

Q. What do you get if you cross a hot sausage with African buns?

A.  A chocolate eclair...Yum Yum...A shaft of delight coated with sticky chocolate and filled with fresh cream.
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@Shila
Yep, if I interpreted correctly.
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This claim about women I think is too accurate
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@Dr.Franklin
Satirically speaking it was correct.

We both know of the RC's insidious history relating to corporal punishment and paedophilia.

Didn't get much kinky and controlling than that.

And certainly too soon to brush it under the carpet Doc.


Top of the morning to ya.
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This claim about women I think is too accurate
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@TheGreatSunGod
You have a very naive view of a relationship BK.

A bit like Remy's.


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Personal Survey
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@sadolite
Cars for most people, are luxury money sinks.

Doesn't really matter what strategy one employs.

Thing is, modern living is luxurious and costs.

Work, earn and spend wisely...I'm guessing this is what you do.


I think that vehicle ownership is more expensive in the UK,  when compared with the US.

For youngsters, road tax and compulsory insurance can run into several thousands, often more than a car is worth.


Mr's Zed drives a Vauxhall Corsa.

I currently have the benefit of a company leased vehicle, which costs me nothing.

So I sold my Land Rover Freelander, because I couldn't justify the running costs anymore.

We had planned to replace the Corsa in November, when the current warranty expires.

But what to get next is something of a dilemma, given the governments approach to the cost of owning and running a private vehicle.





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@Dr.Franklin
Hey Doc.

Kinky control fetish.

Is what that used to teach in Priest and Nun Schools.


Begorrah!
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@RemyBrown
WTF are you going on about Remy.

I'm guessing that you haven't got a girlfriend, and only dream of sex with hot women.

And are currently only addicted to masturbation.
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Mall's video debate summary - Did Jesus invent Christianity? Can you be holy and sin?
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@Shila
Even Jesus was subjected to Karmic Justice.

Well, a guy named Jesus, supposedly did stuff, and there were consequences.

Like I stated...He either met Karmic Justice, or got his comeuppance.

Whichever whatever.
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@Shila
Well, one might expect Tibetans to be Buddhists.

And therefore Tibetan scientists to be Buddhists.

Just as one would expect an Iranian scientist to be a Muslim.

Of course exceptions to expectations will occur...Namely Mr Thurman, who was obviously attracted to the  lifestyle.


Now, I'm guessing, that if you drew up a sincere list of the Worlds top one thousand scientists, it wouldn't include many Buddhists.

Though correct me if I am wrong.
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Vegetarian no kill animal farms produce more food?
How about SPCA advertising?

Undoubtedly.
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@Shila
The majority of biblical scholars.

That's what I said.

Who probably make up 0.0000001% of the population.


NB. (0.0000001% may or may not be an exaggeration).
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@Deb-8-a-bull
No fucking-meat.


Fucking-meat...I Take it that's a euphemism.

So you ain't eating any Deb

Didn't think for one  mo that you ate meat.

Had you down as a 100% mother fucker.

Black White or Asian.

Pretty sure that Jesus ate meat, Greek types were his fave.

Not much talk of mother fucking.

Other than GOD and his Mum, in the stable when daft Joe was napping.


So Saturday Deb, go try a Greek's sausage...It's what Jesus would have wanted.

You might even fancy sticking your sausage in his hot buns.
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What Would a Nuke do to Your City?
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@Shila
I'm guessing that option 3, will soon not be an option.

Though option 4, might be AI deciding to play global thermo-nuclear war games.

FLRW and I are banking on option 5...Death before destruction.
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Darwin and the Enlightenment
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@Dr.Franklin
What about non-species evolution Doc?

Which is how it all began, and how it will perhaps end.

AI for example.
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@Shila
According to the majority viewpoint.

A majority of who.

And from where was their viewpoint acquired.


I think you will find, that the majority of people are prepared just to unquestioningly accept that the bible was compiled by someone or someone's.

I also expect that the majority of people wouldn't have a clue about who might have had a hand in the composition of the first five chapters.

I further expect that the majority of people although recognising the biblical name Moses, would probably not have a clue as to what he supposedly did, nor when he did it.

I even further expect, that most labelled but lapsed Christians know very little if anything al all, about the first five books of the old testament and Moses's purported hand in their composition.


I'm guessing that what you mean, is a majority of biased  theological nerds.
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@Shila
Like Raffling Turkey's.

Or charity Hog roasts.
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Canceling Kyle Kulinski
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@Shila
But people don't change.

I think that your statement is inaccurate.


Though we might possess inherent data that allows us to maintain a certain similarity of form and function, physically we are vehicles of constant change, absorbing and processing nutrients in order to continually renew ourselves.

Similarly, our on board computer also has a basic predetermined operating system, and also a formatively acquired set of well established core knowledge that is not so susceptible to change. As we progress, we are still subject to a continuous input of new data. which will nonetheless have an impact upon ongoing performance.

Of course, we also change considerably as we age.
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It appears that jesus souley died for, HOT CROSS BUNS.
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@Shila
Me and Jesus.
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What I could do for you as a moderator
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@Greyparrot
I didn't.


If true, sort of emphasises the point.

Widespread paranoia.

Widespread manipulation.

Widespread propaganda.


Will read more later.
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How do trans people feel about terms that distinguish sex?
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@IlDiavolo
You never know.


Once we're wired in, thought crimes is next.
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Darwin and the Enlightenment
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@TheGreatSunGod
That's the thing BK.

Nothing is random.

Everything occurs in sequence.

Cause and effect.

We just have no clue of primary cause.

So we made up GODS, out of human necessity.
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@7000series
Mutually Assured Destruction, at least gives us some hope.

Though someone or something somewhere will survive and rise from the ashes...So we can also rest easier with that thought, as we slip from this mortal coil.

Or perhaps an AI with a heart, will work out how to switch everything off.


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@Dr.Franklin
And then along came the Doc.

In short, evolution of species started with Darwin, from where he theorised the development of living organisms via a lengthy process of modification, relative to environment and competition.

As such, a process, the process, is neither random nor chaotic and evolves relative to a naturalistic order.

And in simple terms, enlightenment was the result of  intellectual development and occurred as it did relative to evolution of species and the same naturalistic order.

Everything is either random and chaotic or it is not.


And all the while GOD botherers persisted in claiming that is was a GOD what did it all...Surely not you DOC?


All of which with hindsight, can be regarded as probabilistic...If not then everything could cease to exist tomorrow...What are the chances of that Doc?
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What I could do for you as a moderator
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@WyIted
Who compiled the documents?

Was it propagandists?

I'm guessing that it was.

And for sure, just like now, there will have been be certain Americans who thought that the Soviet Union was cool.

And certain Russians today who think that America would be preferable.
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@WyIted
McCarthy was paranoid, and he incited paranoia amongst certain gullible Americans.

I'm not sure how right or wrong or necessary that might have been.

It was a phase that occurred, then move on to the next phase.

We now have Trump phase, with it's delusions of necessary tyranny, which will typically attract it's gullible devotees.

And we have Wylted et al, espousing necessary tyranny, in order to Make DebateArt Great Again.

And then move on.


I seem to remember that we elected a President.

But he seems to have disappeared without a trace.

I'm guessing that he moved on too.


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@Sidewalker
@Shila
Moses wrote what, when, on what, with what.

I'm just guessing that the OT was compiled a whole lot later...Rather like the Jesus tales of the NT.

Prove me wrong.
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America is fundamentally broken
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@Savant
In the past 25 years, probably the worst US decision was to go fighting goat herders in Afghanistan, in the vain hope that it would bring an end to global terrorism and avenge the twin towers event.

The best decision was giving up and pulling out...Leaving the place just about the same as when you first arrived.

And then you re-elected Trump.

The US could be a great and good, global super-power...But you just keep fucking people off by, doing the most dumb ass things.

You seem to forget that you  make up less than 4.5% of the World population.

Clever stupid gene.


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@Sir.Lancelot
@WyIted
Hey you budding McCarthyists, and Trump wannabees.

This is just a fun discussion website.


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Vegetarian no kill animal farms produce more food?
Humans are competing with animals for charitable donations, food and shelter.

Clever stupid gene...The human specialism.
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How do trans people feel about terms that distinguish sex?
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@IlDiavolo
I come across a few in my line of work and they cost our National Health Service a whole lot of money.

I don't mind what they choose to get up to, but they should pay for it themselves.
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If You Have a Random Thought, Post it Here.
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@ebuc
Famous for it's TT, the Laxey Wheel and Cats with no tail.

All overseen by the Tynwald.
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@Shila
"unknown"

Me or Deb.

Both men of mystery.

And ask nicely, and you'll get 1/2500th of a fish to go with your 1/1000th of a bun.

Yum Yum.
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@Greyparrot
Undoubtedly.
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