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What is your favorite argument for the existence of God?
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@Athias
I have twice.
You would only need to prove it once.


And I would argue that the mind can only determine the mind....And can only assume what it cannot directly perceive. 

And over egging the narrative custard is simply that....And in fairness that is what you are good at.....Nonetheless it does not prove the unprovable.

So where's this god bloke then?
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Mr Ethan's gone again....What did I miss?
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@Barney
Multi accounting is an internal affair.

And "sexual advances" in a remote context, is itself a laughable concept.

The distinction between actual sexual intentions and goading based upon innuendo is pretty distinct.


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I despise Donald John Trump, Change My Mind
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@Greyparrot
I agree.
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Blue state Democrats are ruining Red states....
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@Greyparrot
@bmdrocks21
Socialism would work, but the logistics of re-educating an entire nation do negate socialism's chances somewhat....Though I think that getting everyone to agree in the first place would be even harder.....As people enjoy disagreeing.

And emigrants leave.....And communist utopias always fail for the above reasons.

In the end it boils down to a choice between autocracy and democracy....So be grateful that you can openly disagree with the other side.
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What is your favorite argument for the existence of God?
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@PGA2.0
Hardly fantasy when compared with biblical tales.

Though I do not deny the validity of any hypothesis that attempts to resolve the unresolvable.

But "him".....A misogynist god created in your own image...as ever.

And what do I "replace him with".

I replace him with with a vague hypothesis, a tenuous possibility of a GOD principle that affords everything purpose.....No more, no less.....No tablets of stone and unsubstantiated meetings up mountains or floods and impossibly big boats  or wise men out of the east and blokes nailed to crosses and resurrection.

Ha!....And you have the arrogance to say that I fantasise. 
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What is your favorite argument for the existence of God?
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@PGA2.0
So wherein lies my fantasy?


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Blue state Democrats are ruining Red states....
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
The left isn't tolerant of the right and the right isn't tolerant of the left.....I would suggest that most people are tolerant, or you would have had another civil war by now.

I think that it's just a case of people enjoy opposing something......I'm this and you're that.....It's what we learn in the playground and it stays with us the rest of our lives.

After all, adults are no more than big kids.
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What is this question asking for?
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@Intelligence_06
It achieved something.
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Mr Ethan's gone again....What did I miss?
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@Barney
Let's hypothesise and ask, if Mr Ethan were to sue debateart and it's moderators  for defamation of character. (British Law, not sure of the U.S. equivalent) Claiming that they had been wrongfully been accused of sexual harassment.....How would the above casual regard to site management help in your defence?
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Blue state Democrats are ruining Red states....
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@bmdrocks21
You think others have bad ideas and others think that you have bad ideas....Tolerance of this system is what gives you you're freedom to openly comment and criticise.

As you admit....You wouldn't appreciate the alternative.

Who or what do you think validates your ideas?

A fair election will decide........Though to an outsider,  the U.S. electoral system seems far from straightforward.
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GENDER WARS
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@3RU7AL
There is a physiological norm, whereby under normal function A inseminates B and perpetuates the species. Physiological aberrations that do not fit this required normality are specific but also collectively more commonplace and thereby become a separate physiological norm.

"War" is concept and product of the mind... Whether or not we can separate mind and matter is less clear.
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Blue state Democrats are ruining Red states....
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@bmdrocks21
So are "we" talking United States of America or Ununited States of America.  

Do you see benefit in a One Party authoritarian system, similar to Russia or China?
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Mr Ethan's gone again....What did I miss?
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@Barney
So what constitutes a minor in these circumstances?

And how do you know the actual age of debateart contributors?
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I despise Donald John Trump, Change My Mind
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@Greyparrot
I will take you're word for it.

With the price of a presidency being so high, it really does limit the quality and integrity of the potential purchasers.

And that the whole presidential circus and corrupt election system is allowed to continue, does say so much about  American culture and human nature in general.
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When I don't debate for a while, I get a feeling in my soul
@RationalMadman

So ask me a direct question
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Canada Got Better. The United States Got Trump. (coronavirus)
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@Dr.Franklin
Yes I get that impression.....I ought to go take a look.
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I despise Donald John Trump, Change My Mind
@Ratman

So he bought a presidency and got his name in the history books.
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4D Is To Grok
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@Dr.Franklin
Ebuc is Ebuc.....I'm not sure if they are even capable of communicating at our base level.

I would definitely decline a face to face meeting though.....I  prefer to to keep the online enigma, online.................Am I being egotistical?
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What is your favorite argument for the existence of God?
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@PGA2.0
That is not true.
It is true and there is no real proof.....And you also, shouldn't be ashamed to admit it.

I would not wish to deny you or any other denomination of theist the right to believe in fantastical hypotheses....I'm simply not prepared to run with them myself.

Though, based upon your level of evidence requirements, I would expect you to accept that every other religious concept is also absolutely correct.....Is this not a reasonable expectation?
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When I don't debate for a while, I get a feeling in my soul
@RationalMadman

So the soul is an entity.....How can you actually prove this, and thus elevate your opinion from say so to known fact.

I would suggest that you generate your soul in the same way that you generate your opinions.
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Mr Ethan's gone again....What did I miss?
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@Barney
There's name calling and goading, and there's sexual harassment.....Two completely different issues.....I would suggest that it is inadvisable to accuse someone of sexual harassment without proper cause.

Stephen knows that his posts will goad Mr Ethan, and we have come to expect an acerbic response from Mr Ethan.

And the "minors" issue I raised was somewhat overlooked......What is the debateart position with regard to this?...And what are the statutory requirements with regard to minors, when providing an online service that allows direct contact between minors and unrelated adults? 
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Canada Got Better. The United States Got Trump. (coronavirus)
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@Dr.Franklin
Why would that be though?

People usually get annoyed for reasons, rather than for fun. 
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Is Liberalism Dying?
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@sadolite
Politics...It's something to disagree about for 4 years and then it's circus time.....Everyone loves a clown.....We've got one and you've got one.....And then everything's back to normal.

Let's hope that big top hasn't got dodgy rigging.
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Origin of God or Explosion
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@ethang5
#3

Missed this pearl of wisdom.....It's what I have been continuously suggesting and referring to as a GOD principle.

Though no ethereal old geezer in white robes required.....And I don't mean Gandalf.
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Mr Ethan's gone again....What did I miss?
Is his infringement an Internet possibility?

Or are some people just too sensitive and immature.

Interestingly....Why do minor's not require parental supervision on what is a site that will inevitably include adult comment?

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Syllables in "Hour"
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@WaterPhoenix
I thought that someone from Antarctica and born in the 30's would appreciate that.....Some of the immature and sensitive kids on the site might have been either offended or wouldn't have had a clue.
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What is your favorite argument for the existence of God?
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@PGA2.0
@Athias
And no one as yet has ever proven that an actual god, actually exists.

Therefore the debate is for the debates sake and the subject has become irrelevant.

But maybe that's what makes it a favourite.......Who can best elucidate the unexplainable.....Because there's no chance of resolving the unresolveable.

As I was always told.........It's not the god that matters, it's the taking part.......Or something along those lines.

Stay with it boys. (Gender assumed).
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Canada Got Better. The United States Got Trump. (coronavirus)
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@Dr.Franklin
What's a "coutnry"?

No protests in Canada hey....What does that tell you about Americans?

And so you end up with  Donny, and he makes the rest of the World laugh and cringe simultaneously.
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Syllables in "Hour"
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@WaterPhoenix
ow-oo-er sounds like something an S&M recipient would utter in the throws of ecstasy....And a triphthong sounds like something that Miss Whiplash would be brandishing.


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The "King of the hill medal" should be revised or removed, changed my mind.
@Rationalmadman

Blocked but nonetheless still infatuated.

Yep. A worthless accolade could be regarded as  materialism...So what.....How have I refuted my own premise?.....As my premise was that accolades are worthless.

Hard cash pays the bills.
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Is age just a number?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Most definitely. 
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How fit are my fellow DARTers?
@RationalMadman.

You have blocked me, but are still infatuated.
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How fit are my fellow DARTers?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
No.

A channel of water that drives a waterwheel and some roller bearing components.


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The "King of the hill medal" should be revised or removed, changed my mind.
@ RationalMadman

An accolade.


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How fit are my fellow DARTers?
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@Intelligence_06
Ok....So not big Eastern Europeans.

I'm sixty and still a competitive cyclist....And I bet that I'm fitter than you....Do you want a race?
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Scathing critique of Karl Marx.
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@Greyparrot
Karl Marx was a hypocrite.
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How fit are my fellow DARTers?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
What's a "pole like a pencil"....Any one could lift a "pole like a pencil".......A pencil like a pole might be tougher, though it would depend upon the size of the comparative pole.

Or do you mean a very large person from Poland.
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Is age just a number?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Clever....But you know how old sixty is, and also that 60 months is generally regarded as five.


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Is age just a number?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Sixty is a narrative that represents something.  In this case my age, an event relative to a standard measurement of duration.
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The "King of the hill medal" should be revised or removed, changed my mind.
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@RationalMadman
Are you related to Mr Ethan?

Mr Ethan often refers to me as a materialist.

Realist maybe, but far from a materialist.

Materialists are those that revel in trinketry....Stuff like medals.
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What is your favorite argument for the existence of God?
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@PGA2.0
@Athias
The debate has become the debate....And the subject has become irrelevant.
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The "King of the hill medal" should be revised or removed, changed my mind.
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@Intelligence_06
changed my mind
Have you changed your mind then?....Or is this the reason why you do not have a "King of the Hill medal?

Everyone can have a medal for doing stuff if needs be.....Medals is medals....And only of any value if they can be sold for hard cash. 

How about a "King of the Hill medal" for the most grammatical errors and spelling mistakes.....Though, I think that Dr Franklin would dominate this category.
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How fit are my fellow DARTers?
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@Intelligence_06
Fitness is both, physical capability and physiological condition.... Both aspects of fitness are reliant upon each other to a certain degree.

So a seemingly physically capable person could easily keel over with a heart attack if they were not also physiologically sound.

And a couch potato who is nonetheless 100% physiologically sound might live for 100 years.

And then there is genetic predetermination to consider.
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I would like to have a Christian on this website present me proof that Lucifer became Satan...
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@PGA2.0
I would like a Christian on this website to prove that their particular god actually exists.

Prove the basis of the hypothesis, and then start quibbling over the ludicrous mythological embellishments.
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Is age just a number?
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@Intelligence_06
Sixty is a word......Which represents a standard measurement of duration relative to an event.
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Massive police brutality thread created on twitter by T. Greg Doucette
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@Dr.Franklin
Same old story....Us and them.....Nothing ever changes does it?
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Determinism vs Free Will
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@3RU7AL
Yep.
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Would a "Utopian" atheist nation work in the U.S.?
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@RoderickSpode
People is people....And religion or not, is a variable data construct.

And people believe what they are taught to believe...it's what is known as conditioning.

So for as long as children are conditioned to believe variable nonsense, then nothing will change.

Trying to enforce change only results in resentment, which inevitably results in a non-utopic reaction.

You've either got to re-educate the whole world with a single ethos all at the same time or not bother....If you could do the former, then it wouldn't really matter what the ethos was and given the growing human dependence on technology then maybe this will eventually be a technological possibility, or perhaps even, technology will do it for us without our say so.
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Teleported to the past?
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@RationalMadman
#41 Comes across as a lovelorn plea from a lovestruck of female....The accompanying image probably exacerbates the situation.
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The best possible society should not have any defined religion or politics
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@fauxlaw
Well stated.
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