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Trump the sensible.

Will the voters buy it?

If they are stupid enough they will.....D'oh!

How do you actually know?

I would suggest that spirituality, which is what you are probably inferring, is merely a physiological response to a stimulus, in this case the stimulus is a conscious thought, which itself is a physiological function....All normal internal processes which you  label "soul"....Soul is an simply an utterance which has taken on an emotive quality, that assumes something more than what it actually represents.....Internal data processing with unnecessary bells attached.

Undoubtedly.

What is your soul?.....Is it anything other than a figure of speech?

Are you not, simply referring to brain processes in relation to other brain processes....Stored and remembered data.

Thinking the same together in groups is a contradiction.

And religion is either defined or not.

And no politics is anarchy.

And utopia is not impossible, but nonetheless probably unachievable.

And anarchy unless utopic anarchy is probably not the "best possible society".

Philosophically, communism without hierarchy is utopic, but unachievable in practice as all people are not equal and things need to get done.

 The thoughtlessness or thoughtfulness of the populace and the corruptability of the system will decide the outcome.

So, what is "everything"?...As I see it, everything has three basic qualities or requirements, time and space, to allow event and duration, and matter to perform.....Only matter requires a necessary cause...... There is seemingly a process of events, which by the very nature of procession is an ongoing cause....Call it evolution if you will, but don't get bogged down in Darwin...... In a sequence of events, primary cause is also the conclusion and as such infinitely possible....Though the beginning still remains inconceivable.....Easily assumable, though nonetheless  inconceivable (fauxlaw).

Disregarding the inconceivable beginning, then an infinite sequence of universal events is reliant upon predetermination, which inevitably includes the sentient organic (us)  phase of the process, and all the processes contained within that phase, including human function.

Therefore, do we have free will independent of the evolutionary process?......Hmmmmmm, maybe we can choose or change our mind....but why would we do that and risk "everything".

Concepts are all that's available....Assuming righteousness is conceptual.

"Uncaused cause" is the inconceivable beginning....Everything else is a succession of caused events.....One does because one is.

Though if it were yesterday I would probably go for a bike ride with myself, hopefully I could agree with myself on who rode which bike.

And my wife would be in for a treat.

A thread is as a thread does.

Does a god exist or not?...Same old argument and you know the score, but will not come clean.....I cannot prove no god, as you cannot prove a god....A sort of rational absurdity....or absurdly rational.

But at least I'm prepared to be honest.

What constitutes a Christian.....Splish Splash Splosh and a party a lot of the time.....Me included....Though I grew out of it.....Actually I never grew into it.....Which isn't surprising, as my Dad was a devout atheist and my Mum only regarded Church as a social necessity, and School and Church was only a marriage of convenience.

And the bible gathered dust upon the shelf, as most bibles do.

Yep....Typical Ethang5 response.....Denial tinged with sarcasm.

Physicists do not reverse time, they create a virtual simulation of previous events.

Though if we have a continuous record of previous events we can create a continuous simulation.

The brain/technology interface is yet to be fully explored, so anything is possible I suppose.

The nature of an alternative opinion is the other persons SPAM.....Rational discussion therefore requires tolerance of the alternative......As I keep telling you, this is a debating forum, not a Mr Ethan pat on the back club.

Up late or up early again?

I would suggest that a virtual simulation is a current and possible event, irrespective of the content.

Mr Athias brought them to mind, is what I said....As Judaic influence became relative to the thread.

And just do a quick search....I'm not listing all the theories, there are too many to list.

Data retrieval...Bias.....Undoubtedly....Applies to us all....Even you.

Racists one and all....Yep....Undoubtedly.

Me, You, Triangle. Athias....We comment and develop threads....It's the nature of the exercise.

Freud rambles as philosophers do.....Though develops thoughts and ideas as above....We are all philosophers.

Mr Athias moved them temporarily to mind, as is the nature of data retrieval. 

Judaic influence in U.S. affairs is a well known and well evidenced, " conspiracy theory"........So conspiracy fact perhaps. 

What are your pearls of wisdom in relation to this subject?

And my name isn't Richard....LOL

Up late or up early Mr Ethan?......It's probably all that angst.....Worrying about all those other scary people out there....Democrats, Muslims, Atheists, Chinese to name but a few.

Yes you did.

And no it doesn't.

Interesting that you should mention JFK.....See above.

Interesting answer.

Some would say conspiracy theory.

Nonetheless I do run with the idea of establishment or an established hierarchy.....The U.K. being a prime example....Though based more on  old European aristocratical power....Nonetheless old European power was Church and State...Predominately the Catholic Church.

A Judaic influence in U.S. affairs is often proposed, but how do you reconcile Judaism and Catholicism and consequently how would  the Pope end up at the top of the tree?

Abrahamic systems do have an obvious lineage, but can you also reconcile Islam?.....Perhaps not.

Muslims never say "1934" to me....Direct answer.....No dodge....And a Muslim might be female.

My appreciation of Art, Literature and Architecture is variable as they are not subjects that interest me greatly, so I can think of none that I personally consider to be "great".

As I stated, I appreciate skill and effort just as much as I appreciate the end product.....Yep a dodge if you like....But an honest answer, because I'm do not know what it is that I am supposedly dodging......You perhaps have favourite "greats" stored within your conditioned database.

A Muslim has never said 1934 to me....Muslims tend to chat about all the usual day to day stuff, the same as most people do.

Art appreciation is very specific to the viewer, though I appreciate skill in all art styles.

Literature is very specific to the reader, I prefer informative stuff and have a particular interest in  accounts of life in Europe and on the Eastern Front during WW11....Though, I would say that the key to good literature is readability. 

Architectural aesthetics are also very specific to the viewer.....Though architecture inevitably inherits it's basic principles of structure from techniques established way before Christianity.

And the World and therefore literature, art and architecture are far bigger than Christendom, and human history therein, predates Christianity by millennia.

I reiterate that you simply hold a biased and therefore inaccurate opinion relative to a conditioned mindset.

Not sure that a void sephre makes sense.

Sorry, but you did ask.

How many of theses mistakes are there?

Well there's skrewing and dstrust, so that makes three.

Sorry, but you did ask.

Where?

All religions, histories and architectural styles get a look in...It's the unavoidable nature of things......There is nothing special that singles out Christianity.....Other than the biased nature of your thought processes.

I'm referring to tales and associated claims.....Not architecture...LOL

Racism is media trendy and therefore lucrative.....And is presented as a white over black issue because this is what sells.

The real facts....  A. Would be boring... And B. Not what people currently want to hear. (Or so they are told).

And in Bristol England media junkies tore down a racist statue and replaced it with a racist statue, which the local authority quietly removed....No media generated fuss required. LOL.

Media junkies....Outsheeping the sheep.

A board is also a flattish piece of timber or composite material...And a thread is also a length of cotton or  synthetic fibre.....Language Timothy.

And interestingly, you often refer to me as being a materialist.....What do you mean exactly?

As we are all materialists to some degree....It's the nature of humanity.

Yep. Nutjobs everywhere, but fortunately the minority, and I do not live in England, though I am British if you wish to label.

And so in what capacity did you acquire your global experience?....Because there never seems to be much worldly wiseness or tolerance in your rhetoric.

Exactly.....You do not know......It's taken a long time for you to admit it.....But well done.

And the nature of  a mythological hypothesis is that it contains elements of reality/correctness.... So the Abrahamic tales and Christian claims are nothing special.

Labels Labels!

Well, my post was somewhat tongue in cheek, and aimed at my old friend Mr Ethan.

Though I am in agreement with you regarding  the absurdity of popular religion as a serious creation hypothesis.

Quite frankly if there was a supreme being, it just wouldn't be as stupid as religious zealots portray it.

Your fear of outside your safe U.S.  Christian bubble is palpable.

There's a big scary world out there, full of all manner of variously labelled nutjobs.....Boo!

Though what you would find if you visited a few of these places, as I have, is that most people, are actually very friendly courteous people,  but as you should expect they just don't have a lot of time for people who don't have a lot of time for them.

And unfortunately nutjobs exist everywhere...Even in the U.S.....It just a fact of life and something to avoid .

Silence is Golden as someone made an awful din once telling us.

And as I've got older, I tend to prefer no music to music.

K-Michael....Fantastic!

I am an extreme moderate, which inevitably results in me having  left and right tendencies.

The term "scientific racism"...What does this mean exactly?....Just seems like yet another misinterpretation of the word science.....People are racist, everyone of them, even the ones who think that they are not.

Differentiating between Jew and Gentile is conditioned racism.....Because the human ability to perceive, store and remember data inevitably makes everyone racist,

The ongoing issue is with how racism manifests  in both, individuals and societies.

Bristol U.K.....They pulled down a racist statue and replaced it with a racist statue. D'oh!

Who's really pulling the strings?

In a literal sense, Genesis was Science.....Though somewhat naive by today's standards.

Just so that everyone knows....The theist message is often just as belligerent and O.C. as the atheist message....it's just that theists likes to think that their O.C.D. is more righteous....And vice versa of course.

And just for the record, I am merely a sceptic....Who accepts a GOD principle, but not all the piffle associated with the Jesus stories.....A liberal atheist if you like...Though not to be confused with a political liberal, as I am staunchly apolitical....A hard line moderate if you like......Labels, labels!

Though if Willows weren't so obvious, then they might get away with it.... Though perhaps that is a symptom of  O.C.D.....Or maybe just good fun....Sure as hell winds up conservatives though......LOL.

Derangement syndrome....I love that.....Though it was first noticed in Republicans I see no reason why it wouldn't of spread to all sectors of society.

Though I'm not convinced that it is anything more than a bit of tit for tat name calling......You remember how we used to behave in the playground 50 years ago.

LOL.

Well I would suggest that eternity can be eternally 0....No cause necessary....Though stuff that we are pretty certain of (matter) eternal and without cause is somewhat imponderable....That really does seem like blind faith, which is a poor basis for understanding.

Though if we concede to the notion of eternally 1 and also  take on board the eternity of an evolutionary process, then eternity negates the need for any cause, including GODS.

Eternity itself becomes the cause and a recurring material evolutionary process is the GOD principle.....Certainly no deity requiring worship required.

Typical religious fundamentalist false narrative.

Mr Ethan is a religious fundamentalist?!?!?

Though Greta did lack the necessary Hollywood glamour to be able to make old right wingers drool.

Intelligent designer....reasonable hypothesis. 

But who or what designed the intelligent designer?.....Reasonably unreasonable downside to the hypothesis.

All hypotheses start at 1 and conveniently avoid the issue of 0.

People are naturally conditioned to understand that they have different identities....There's no getting away from the fact, as difference is perceivable.

And that's notwithstanding all the political and religious bullshit we bombard our kids with....You don't even need to look as far as Catalonia and Quebec to check it out.

I believe you.

Your "piece of technology" does do what it does now....If it didn't, it wouldn't....So would you therefore be ungrateful?