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Yep, perhaps we should look to a consistent China, rather than a divided America.

Well, that would depend upon the greater purpose of intelligence I suppose...If there is such a thing of course.

If not, then it doesn't really matter.

And "allowing" doesn't really seem an option, I rather think that a greater non-human intelligence will just evolve.

Yep.

Just depends upon how you care to look at it.

And just like me, your DNA is 100% Earthling.

Remy.

A North American "Native", is anyone born on the land mass regarded as North America.

Even the first settlers of North America were originally immigrants.

So the US is a Nation of come, take and move on...As is just about everywhere, other than somewhere in Central Africa, perhaps.

Thoughts on human development and it's associated nationhood, just depend on where people choose to start the human evolutionary clock.

So the Cowboys started theirs a few hundred years ago.

And the Injuns started theirs considerably earlier.

And relative to their Earthling heritage, everyone is entitled to inhabit Planet Earth.

Because there is nowhere else to effing go.

Currently Shila, currently.

As I continue to point out, human intellectual development is 2 million or so years in the making.

AI less than 100 years.

Give it time.

Hey, M'harman.

Y'all a nation of immigrants.

Whose 400 year old culture is founded on Europeans, Africans and anyone else who decided to rock up.

Currently headed by a Germano-Scottish President, married to a Slovenian.

And an Irish- Scottish Vice President, married to an Indian.

Stilton cheese...Yum Yum.

Defo means SCROTAL and the One Eyed Python. Wink,wink,

In the main where two of similar ability are debating, the outcome is not so much about content, but about who was paying attention at the time.

And let's be sensible, online debating isn't worth getting hung up about.

So just be happy that you've done your best job.

And let the numpties squabble.

Well, we have respect for decent Americans.

Decent people everywhere in fact.

But America is currently headed by a wannabee autocratic nut job, inspired by a Russian autocratic nut job, who together inspire others to behave like nut jobs.

So we now have to edge our bets in respect of European US cooperation.

Maybe we will now have to look to the far East.

Sadly, making the US a partner in the new axis of evil.

Don't think that was quite what David Frum meant.

Nor Dubya.

Nor decent Republicans, one hopes.

Hear Hear.

Death is another option.

I forgot that beach shot.

We look buff, do we not?

Deb, where you been?

Prison?

I was worried that we had lost the sane voice of Australia.

And I can't believe that you've never partaken of the female crack of doom.

Yum Yum.

Nor the trifle tower.

Is that one of those Aussie, Bruce versus food challenges.

One hour to eat a ten foot stack of jelly custard and cream, garnished with strawberries and white chocolate shavings.

Yum Yum.

And best wishes to Sheila.

I guess that she is your partner

And I also guess that your real name is Bruce, and that you wear budgie smugglers.

Perhaps I'm stereotyping.

Or fantasising.

Thankfully Mr Trump has reunited Europe.

So he has one good point.

Putin is a typical Russian autocrat.

Once upon a time, in the beginning, he was a reasonably affable global statesman, making jokes and messing around at the G20.

Now he has reverted to the default Russian megalomaniacal paranoid position...Someone who's been in the job for far too long.

In fairness, keeping a lid on Russia can't be easy especially for one old man. Whereas the Chinese regime has the job of keeping a lid on China well sorted.

And all that the rest of Europe can do for now is tolerate the guy. And wait for Russians to sort things out...Which is usually what happens.

Hi Yas.

Well the human condition is such, that we acquire, process and utilise data, according to formative circumstances. (In the main).

No getting away from it.

But when all is said and done, the only difference between...a GOD exists...and...a GOD perhaps exists...is...perhaps.

Associated clothes, rituals, books and tolerance/intolerance, are largely the product of geo-cultural politics.

And the fools will out eventually...I'm guessing.

We will have to wait and see.

Well probably not you and I...I don't think that we last that long.

Yep.

If folk want to be diverse equal and included. Then why do they, at the same time, continue to strive to be the opposite.

Well, there are reasons.

Just saying.

Is 40 days a sort of biblical style thing?

Are they metaphorically casting Target into the wilderness?

Yep.

Americans coming to terms with the new World order.

We had a similar wake up call 50 or so years ago.

And once it was oil.

And now it's rare earth minerals.

Such is the necessity of material evolution...Or so it seems.

When GODDO dropped us of here, they must have known a thing or two.

If they're monitoring progress, they will currently be saying to each other...Ah, looks like they're now at the rare earth phase.

Hey, Chill.

Freedom of choice allows you to ignore or respond.

You choose to respond.

Though do you really place so much importance on a low key discussion forum?

Nope, I'm an old fart and not used to your text speak.

For example:

I still haven't worked this out

And was just saying that cause and effect, is reasoning for a reason.

Rather than spontaneous bursts of unprovoked reasoning.

Yep, the tale, the myth, the analogy...I wouldn't disagree.

Yep they were so empowered by the big guys provision of endocrinal and reproductive systems... Why did he do that I wonder?

And not forgetting the people of Nod... It's nice to be blithe every now and then.

Which is a problem that arises when people split into separate people clubs, and certain clubs assume a superior status.

Us Brits and our empire built upon the industrial revolution became so deluded, for a while.

Of course it would be sensible as a species to all club together.

But we have other distractions to deal with, such as religion, ethnicity, culture and testosterone, to name but four.

Yep, seems that un-Statesmen-like Statesmen, is the new US normal.

Looks like we have to ride it out for a while.

Probably best to ignore them.

Oh well.

I could say the same about you Yas.

A necessary being, is a solely word based concept relative to the ongoing uncertainty of an unnecessary but seemingly necessary acceptance of a particular genre of  unverifiable creation and existence theory.

Basically a GOD exists because it cannot not exist.

Though we can replace the word GOD with any other word/s.

How about cosmic super-banana?

Of course, The necessary being was inevitably regarded as  "HIM", relative to our own predicament...

So, Mr Cosmic Super-Banana it is then.

I wouldn't disagree with that Faux.

Though I think that the Adam and Eve story, was as much to do with developing social attitudes towards human sexuality, as it was about the early biological evolution of the species...Though I would suggest that that the two emerging social dilemmas were always going to be inextricably linked.

Hi Stephen.

I think I have also said the same things many times.

In short, a naive  and more fanciful interpretation of known facts, relative to intellectual and scientific development of the time.

Though, just as one would expect, the basic principle is reasonable.

Well a slight contradiction there.

Because if in a literal translation is not always available, then the paraphraser/s have to "make up" an alternative.

But yes, otherwise, you perfectly substantiated the point I was trying to make.

Maybe.

But the Chinese are able to do things cheaply...Which is all to do with comparative National and sociological evolution.

Nonetheless, intellectual development is a global phenomenon,... It's just that currently, it comes cheaper in China.

But this didn't answer my question.

Because a Nation is primarily a collection of people relative to a land mass, which includes women. 

(In fact the USA, has a slightly greater female to male make up).

National Culture defines it's individuality, and culture evolves.

Therefore all aspects of both tradition and cultural evolution are relevant national issues, and have to be considered as such.

Things such as women's sport, or misogynistic theo-traditionalism.

Maybe.

The future's a long time though.

And there will eventually be places to go.

Perhaps not for thousands of years...But just think how well evolved AI will be by then.

Do you think that Chinese intellect will be able to keep up?

Top of the morning Doc.

Do you not care, or are you not interested?

I personally think that women are as entitled to participate in sport as we are...Not that I am particularly interested in what they actually do.

Well stated Doc.

Possible and necessary are not synonymous.

Necessity implies need

Possibility says maybe.

So one could say that an interventionist creator maybe needed.

Or maybe not.

I am of the opinion, that an Interventionist Super-Intelligence (If one should exist), is far more sensible than you give it credit for.

Nonetheless I would be interested to read an exact copy of Ezra's original message...Whereabouts does the original manuscript reside?

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Well, a real person being a real person, is what it is.

Though being an executed itinerant is not so good.

The other alternative is, Trump dies soon.

And Putin thought that he could isolate Ukraine.

And since WW2 The US has been blundering around the Globe with their immense super-power, trying to subdue goat farmers.

Before eventually running back home with their tails between their legs.

Nah...Much harder in practice than it is on paper.

And the US is Canada's arse.

Hey Vi.

You need to get your AI to brush up on it's spelling.

And I would suggest that we reason for a reason.

He already answered this particular question.

If you say so.

Who knows how the future of humanity will pan out in an AI World.

Would AI have the need to be globally competitive like it's human forbears?

Hmmmm.

Check out your dictionary Shila and look up myth.

No reason why Jesus wouldn't be a real character, set in a mythical narrative.

And scholars are as scholars do, and are scholarly about their chosen interests.

Well, it wouldn't be the same thing  would it.

And I'm sure that Canada is reasonably self sufficient and well connected enough, to not worry too much about a trade war with the US.

For sure, all medical and surgical intervention prolongs life expectancy.

Such is the nature of things.

In terms of sensibility it would be far better if Canada annexed the US.

Though why the fuck would Canada want to do that?

You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear, as the saying goes.

Natural selection eventually gave us vaccines.

Just as it eventually gave us all other medicines. (Treat the symptoms and the complications, or treat the cause).

And DebateArt.

Though for sure, is 8.2 billion a necessity?

Maybe so, maybe not.

We just don't know.

But in the main, we think that we are a necessity. (Thoughts are nonetheless variable). But in the main.

Does RFK trade on the acronym?

And is it Measles Vaccine, or is it Measels Vacciene...That is the question. 

For sure, contingency is merely a life time of process.

And why is a possibility necessarily a necessity?

And the rest is a latter day version of a previous version of......

And as wordy as it maybe, it still doesn't prove a sausage.

And a GOD maybe, regardless of my suggestions.

And your suggestions too.

Or maybe not.

Such is the bottom line of all these GOD hypotheses.

And "Instructing kids" is about the strength of it.

Exactly.

Justification of worth to the bottom line.

Ask Fauxlaw.

Christ Myth Theory.

Undoubtedly.

Gospel:

Old English for a good story.