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@Vader
I could honestly give a crap about how I spell.
That's good to know.
So it's thorough, and not through.
Or perhaps it should be couldn't rather than could.
My suggestion is, enjoy the beach and recover from that bout of BK induced sickness.
And resume moderation duties when you feel better.
May the force be with you.
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But we know from their honest profile that BK is actually a female Muslim from Afghanistan, where the age of consent is 3.
Perhaps we should use our discretion, especially as she is expecting her 15th child, and debate art is her only connection with the outside World.
Is this helpful?
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@sadolite
LOL.
Hey, ten grand cash or two Oreo cookies.
Tough call.
I wonder how many cookies ten grand cash would buy?
Kid wasn't thinking straight.
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@sadolite
MMA is just fucktards punching and kicking the shit out of each other.
Let them get on with it.
It's nice to watch the girls, but I think that they should be made to where delicate lingerie and strap on dicks...What say you sadolite?
Perhaps not the fat ones.
Just trying to be unwoke, you understand.
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@janesix
And the Bible isn't a cobbled together just-so-story.
And in terms of universal and evolutionary law, one could say that everything is, according to that design.
And a magic bloke with a drawing board is not a necessary requirement.
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@ebuc
@FLRW
When's our next gig.
IT will be great to meet sadolite and his six pack.
You up for it ebuc?
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@Best.Korea
Hey.
Is it witch hunt season again.
It comes around from time to time.
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@Hero1000
Well, my hypothetical GOD is simply an interventionist super-intelligence, that seeks out suitable planets and sows the seeds of life.
It then departs, expecting life, species and intellect to evolve in accordance with universal laws.
It doesn't need to hang around and boss things about.
Neither does it need to leave messages.
The development of religions would have been an expectation, as intellectual organisms sought answers to questions.
And the obvious first answer, would have been an intellectual organism.
Of course we've moved on considerably since then, in terms of intelligence gathering, material development and universal knowledge.
But some humans like to cling on to old outdated ideas... Which was to be expected.
So in a Universe where a super-intelligence might exist, both orders and obeyance are irrelevant.
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@Hero1000
Well in terms of a hypothetical GOD scenario, in my imagination an interventionist super-intelligence would know what to expect from emerging life-forms.
It would watch from afar and not intervene.
At this moment in time, it would be observing that although we are still hung up on Middle Eastern religious stuff, we are nonetheless progressing nicely with technology, AI and space exploration.
Obeyance, means evolution in accordance with universal laws of material development. Same rules would apply to GOD.
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@Best.Korea
So, how do you fund your lifestyle?
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@Best.Korea
Love.
An specific electro-chemical response to a specific stimulus.
But we pretend it's more than that.
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They would realise the difference and make up their own noises.
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@Best.Korea
Or a business woman.
You will find that most folk have to do things for money.
It's sort of how it works.
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@Tradesecret
Don't obey what Trade?
What is it that we do, that an omniscient GOD would not have expected?
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@Best.Korea
Ah.
You just need to find a happy hooker who considers her work to be an essential social service.
A sort of sexual therapist.
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@Best.Korea
Have you contacted that hooker yet?
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@FLRW
You're hogging the limelight.
I can't see my six pack.
I think that Shila has a beautiful mind.
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@Shila
I hope he washed it .
Who wants cheesy mushrooms?
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@FLRW
@Best.Korea
@Shila
Hinduism.
Same old shit really.
Just splashing about in the Ganges amidst the flotsam and jetsam of the funeral pyres.
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@IlDiavolo
Maybe there's a reason for muthafukas.
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@Best.Korea
Yep, and if parents were taught to be responsible and social governments had a cohesive social strategy of inclusiveness and equality. Then it's less likely that neither dirty old men nor little Daisy would occur.
Doesn't work like that though.
Never has.
We make a song and dance, buy that's all it is, a brief song and dance.
And then move on.
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@Best.Korea
For sure.
Though the argument is all about dirty old men and little kiddies, and the perversity of the human races evolved inhibitions and associated anxieties.
So if a dirty old man fucks a sixteen year old, the level of anxiety would be no less than if he fucked a 15 year old.
Though if a sixteen year old fucked a 15 year old no one would really care.
So the dirty old man plays games with a 9 year old, boom lynch mob time.
But in who's head exists the acquired perversity.
And anyway, does anyone have a choice?
Doesn't everything that occurs now, depend upon everything that occurred previously.
Ok...So society pretends to abhor a woman fucking a minor...That's equality for you.
If back in the day my history teacher had asked me back to hers for some private tuition, I would have been a fucking hero.
And existed in a constant state of premature ejaculation.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
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@sadolite
Yep.
I used the name Sonofcharl back in the day.
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@WyIted
Oh. And goodbye.
Though if you signed up in 6 months time, on a rainy day, just for an hours catch up....Would the Earth cease to rotate?
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@Best.Korea
Children acquire more knowledge than and adult ever can.
Which isn't to say that we weren't all children at some point.
Nonetheless food fads are an acquired trait relative to social circumstance and conditioning.
Which is why witchetty grubs are an Aussie Aboriginal delicacy, and the impoverished deep south prefer chicken gizzards, and the social elite delight in the consumption of snotty bivalves.
And sexuality is a state of being and is self taught...Though adults like to think that they have been taught better.
Hmmm...Cheese and pickle sandwich and a packet of potato crisps please.
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@sadolite
Debate.org.
Fun times.
I don't remember sadolite though.
Different user name perhaps?
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@FLRW
@Best.Korea
For sure, an intellectually developed social system is what it is and what it has become.
And if little Daisy chooses a salad sandwich, then should an appropriate adult decide that she should have ham instead.
Because little Daisy is not mature enough to understand the socio-economic impact that vegetarianism has on livestock farmers.
Of course all this stems from the ridiculous inability of an intellectual species to come to terms with it's reproductive systems and apparatus.
A better example of clever stupid there never was.
Though as Ernest would say...Masturbation is the answer to all our ongoing sexual needs.
Think little Daisy...Wank...Have a cup of coffee...Aaaaaaand relax. BK.
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@IlDiavolo
If we don't understand the "problem" by now, then do you think we ever will?
Actually is there really a problem?
Human beings behave and interact just as they have always done...Selfishly.
Though through selfishness we are still able to achieve a collective intellectual and material state of progress.
I would suggest that in this respect, the existence of the individual is a universal nanosecond of either irrelevance or significance.
And banks, wealth and the associated quality of an individuals monetary and social status, is just a necessary facet of a planetary based evolutionary system.
On the other hand, if everything that we achieve here on planet Earth has no greater universal significance, then what's the "problem" if everything that we do is absolutely pointless.
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@Shila
Nope, the generational transfer of Christian data has stood the test of a few thousand years.
Prior to the book, there were millions of years of other versions of stood time testing.
Being stupidly clever is a prime example.
And we didn't stop being cleverly stupid once the book had been compiled...Far from it.
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@Lemming
Hmmmm
I cannot see a necessary connection between lax gun laws and freedom.
And from the safety of her ivory tower, Mrs Le Guin comments upon the stupidity of a turbulent, violence based 20th century.
In fact can you give me an example of a century of peace?
The 21st hasn't started very well.
The inanimate weapon will harm no one, but animate fools will.
And the biggest perpetrators of violence are not gangsters, but good ole everyday folk with a stupid agenda.
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@Mharman
Well, said rare events, though not the daily norm, are nonetheless not rare...(Depends upon how one chooses to define the word "rare", I suppose.)
And in the context of the USA, how do you control guns?
Simply passing laws, cannot suddenly bring under control a roughly estimated 500million firearms.
And "crime" is symptomatic of a society, so I would suggest that "gun control" is unlikely to affect criminal activity, either for better or worse.
But will simply compel the gun lobby to commission spurious studies, which result in skewed conclusions.
And I'm not sure what the the UK's approach to cyber crime has to do with US gun laws.
But fortunately the UK populace is not armed, save for highly regulated sporting guns.
Though for sure, if inconsiderate people see profit in selling guns to criminals, they will attempt to do so...Such careless greed is symptomatic of a selfish species.
And of course, everyone who transcends social laws, becomes a criminal...Such is the flimsy distinction between criminals and non-criminals. All of which combine to make up the populace.
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@Shila
The Bible is the only reliable book of moral righteousness.
Trouble is, with no way of verifying content, the very nature of it's development and construction, makes the Bible an unreliable source of information.
Making your statement somewhat contradictory.
Nonetheless,, if one does not need to provide definitive verification, then based upon your conclusion, one could place ones faith in any historical myth and consider it to be reliable.
I would therefore suggest that moral righteousness , is a variable human concept, but with a shared commonality, relative to an evolving intellectual species.
In the absence of knowledge, the need for a transcendental solution was clearly a necessity.
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@Shila
Where will one find the definitive book of moral righteousness?
And for sure BK makes sense...But not always sensibly.
But actually, where is the definitive book of all that is sensible?
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@Mharman
Gangs exist in most deprived urban centres.
And weapons exist because humans are not only clever, but also stupid.
And Americans are no more or less clever or stupid than anyone else.
And responsible gun owners are only responsible until such times as they are irresponsible.
And give their kids toys so that they can go play with their classmates.
And the massive US problem is the massive US problem, that the US massively created, and didn't just occur overnight.
Y'all to blame, not just the gangsters.
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@Best.Korea
Literally completely illiterate.
Not sure how completely illiterally literate any of this is.
Or any of that.
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@Shila
I suppose so.
In so much as the notion of intelligence is a construct thereof.
Perhaps AI will give it another name.
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@Shila
Hi Shila.
Well, my knowledge on the subject is limited.
I put together thoughts, derived from things that I read, and developments that arise as a result.
With hindsight, human experience tells us that we will always exceed expectation....So who knows what will be achieved in the future.
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@WyIted
For sure.
But isn't an armed populace defending against invasion, essentially a standing army?
And don't modern armed forces, need some sort of federal organisation?
Would you want nukes in the hands of a raggle-taggle bunch of gun toting, beer swilling hill billies?
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@Lemming
Maybe so.
Perhaps only a short term gain though, whilst whosoever is best able to maintain dominion over AI.
My musings tend to consider more, the longer term developments of an AI dominated world.
But let's be honest, younger generations of the human race are already slaves to technology.
In fact, if electronic technology was switched off tomorrow, human systems would come to a standstill.
Maybe eventually, AI will see little use for humans and decide to switch us off and shut us out of the loop.
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@WyIted
Globally, systems of social governance are dictatorships, more ore less tempered by the sensibilities of the populace.
Democracy is a system of social governance, wherein dictatorship is limited by the sensibilities of the populace.
Isn't the preservation of democracy, the purpose of the 2nd amendment?
I'm also not sure that there is any evidence to suggest that totalitarianism is reasonably defendable.
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@Lemming
Hmmmmmmmmm.
Hi Lemming.
In simple terms, a person is a person, whereas an AI device isn't a person.
So data management systems will inevitably be different.
Though intelligence is essentially the same.
And interface doesn't directly rely upon an organic energy source anyway.
Basically we all rely upon the same energy source.
For there to be the potential for self replication, determination and development, all that is required is the development of an intelligent and dexterous device.
And this is seemingly what humans are striving to achieve.
Which begs the question...Why do we strive to challenge our intellectual superiority?
If there were no greater purpose in doing so, wouldn't it be intellectually prudent to rest upon our laurels?
In the previous Universe, was GOD an organic device or an alternative?
Free floating, pre-programmed seeds of intelligence, in the newly emergent universal system, just waiting for a suitable place to germinate.
Just a thought.
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@Shila
AI relies on a different set of algorithms.
That maybe so.
Are you suggesting that this is a limiting factor?
But would this necessarily always be a limiting factor?
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@Lemming
Hi Lemming.
Isn't feeling just an electro-chemical process that we are subject to, and therefore process intellectually and consequently label as emotive.
A learned experience in other words...Though we also learn to think that it is more than what it is.
I don't see any reason why AI would not decide/learn to be similarly definitive. That is to say, differentiate between data groupings, relative to content, then subsequently label store and utilise them accordingly.
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@RemyBrown
Everything is emotional Remy.
Cause and effect.
Emotion and pragmatism are inextricably conjoined, by the nature of the processing unit and it's programming.
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