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@Dr.Franklin
Yep exactly.Conservative culture supports trad views.
Penis's and Vagina's should be kept covered up at all times and not be discussed in public.
And procreation is the awful thing that married adults have to do from time to time, definitely with the lights off.
Trouble is, you cannot supress instinctive behaviour.
Hence the counterculture.
Porn is a product of human stupidity.
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@Bullish
Sorry. Failed. The clock was showing British Time.
Have to get to work now, must dash.
Don't stay up to late.
Regards.
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@Bullish
I'm in the U.K.
Thought perhaps it was a U.K. thing.
This problem started a few months back after some modification work was carried out.
Also I don't bother with debates now, because of an even more annoying glitch in the editing process.
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@Bullish
Haven't worked out if there is a sequence that leads to failure.
Thought I had but I was just proved wrong.
Perhaps it's random.
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@OntologicalSpider
If only the M.G.B. would show it's face once in a while.
It wouldn't all be down to speculation then.
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@Alec
The Burden is on me to prove what?
I simply question your morality.
Is your morality selective?
Do you regard all life with equal measure?
Does the life of an Afghan child blown apart by U.S. ordnance, have the same value as a U.S. foetus?
Does the life of an I.S. fighter, have the same value as a U.S. foetus?
How far does your regard for life stretch?
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@Dr.Franklin
People do different things.
No ones choice is actually right and no ones choice is actually wrong.
Just down to Earth alternative realities.
Which is all just basic ideology.
If you think about it logically.
The need for porn probably stems from an ultra-conservative attitude towards the act of procreation and it's associated body parts,
Which, if you continue to think logically, is rather ridiculous.
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@disgusted
There's nothing as desperate as a bloke with a hard on.
They will fuck a hole in the wall if needs be.
Not speaking from experience, you understand!
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@Dr.Franklin
Porn is no different to mobile devices, is no different to fast food, is no different to prescription drug dependency, is no different to excessive exercise regimes, is no different to easy plastic products. etc.etc.
Create it, market it and sell it and people will buy it.
It's just an alternative reality.
As is being ultra-conservative.
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@Alec
Humans are pre-programmed for sex.
Sex isn't something that you can easily decide not to bother with.
Just look at the problems Roman Catholic Priests have
And what is the alternative species?
Sheep perhaps!
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@ RationalMadman
Anyway.
Just out of interest.
How thick is the discoid?
And what's on the other side?
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@Alec
You missed the point.
Nonetheless.
No grey areas.
Except probably when the life in question doesn't fall within your conditioned moral remit.
Selective morality, double standards.
Though perhaps you are different.
Prove me wrong.
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@Mopac
And what does one actually base faith upon?
Have you ever sensibly considered such a point?
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@Alec
It's all conceptual.
Yet it's all real enough in it's own context.
It's a curious thing this life business.
And how seriously or not we take it mostly depends upon our parents generation and of course, where we were born.
So in our own contexts our opinions on abortion may vary somewhat.
But although different, both our opinions are still nonetheless rational.
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LOL.
25 and still a teenager.
When you get to my age you'll look back and laugh and be somewhat embarrassed at the way you sometimes behaved when you were a teenager.
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@Alec
Wishful thinking.
And unsustainable on so many levels.
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@Singularity
Realistically for most people the current maximum lifespan is probably somewhere between 80 and 100 years.
And "interventions" may have improved but have nonetheless changed very little.
As I have continually stated "interventions" only prolong the latter stages of existence, rather than halt the ageing process at a point where the body is physically and mentally in it's prime. Probably somewhere around 30 years of age.
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@Stephen
Most similar mythologies or fantasy tales have the little hero slaying the big bad ogre.
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@Vader
So Bernie's just like Donald then?
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@Mopac
As ever, a whole lot of words that doesn't really tell us anything.
It just confirms for you, a set of internally held data that you consider to be meaningful.
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@Alec
For some, when is anything not religious?
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@Alec
The answer should be a no brainer really.
No pun intended.
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@Singularity
Life expectancy has probably doubled in the last hundred years.
Better healthcare, improved medical intervention, increased personal awareness of healthy living etc.
Nonetheless 0 to 50 is still 0 to 50 and a year is still a year, and though we might be relatively fitter and healthier than previous generations were, this still only extends the years from 50 0nwards.
And 50 onwards are still inevitably the years of natural physical decline.
And so continued use of current strategies can only increase the years 100 + for example.
And currently, of what real use is a centenarian?
Do you get my point?
How do you actually stop the clock sooner?
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@PressF4Respect
There is obviously an ultimate reality.
But whether the rituals of Mopac's church have anything to do with it, is another matter completely.
Mopac undoubtedly has a conditioned bias. As do most ardent theists.
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@Alec
Yep.
There are two sides to every argument and both sides have a right to be voiced.
And offence is make believe.
And ignorance is bliss.
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@Singularity
Death is death.
And dying is being alive.
And currently the only certainty you have after birth is death.
And also currently, increasing life span only means extending the latter stages of existence.
The alternative would mean stopping the genomic clock altogether.
And I doubt that it will be possible to do that in your lifetime.
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@WaterPhoenix
What do you think that you actually mean when you say "deeper into the hellhole"?
Is that anything other than conditioned rhetoric?
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@ethang5
Exactly.
How extreme does Liberal have to be before it becomes Conservative?
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@sadolite
I can personally prove that the Earth is a spheroid.
Simply by looking at accurate images taken from space.
As I previously stated, it is only someone with a dogged belief in conspiracy theories that would refute the authenticity of such images.
AAAARGH Nasa and the Government and every other space research organisation is out to get us.
Grab your AR15's and run for the hills boys!
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@Dr.Franklin
Not necessarily.God is necessary.
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@Dr.Franklin
The counter argument is equally as sound.
Therefore a maximally great being either does or doesn't exist.
Which is the same old, past, present and ongoing unprovable uncertainty that ever was and is ever likely to be.
So what?
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@WaterPhoenix
Ok so Trump's good entertainment.
But nonetheless has proven to be something of an illiterate numpty.
Is this really what you would base your political decisions and aspirations upon.
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@sadolite
Perception tells us that the earth is spherical.
Only ignorant assumption and a dogged belief in conspiracy theories perpetuates flat earth non-sense.
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@ethang5
Hypocritical Liberals and Hypocritical Conservatives alike.
And they looked from Pig to man and from Man to Pig etc.
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@Dr.Franklin
50/50
Things either work or they do not.
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@Dr.Franklin
One ratio point off.
So, they are not one point off.
And so, that's the way it is.
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@Imabench
Trump's impeachment might actually fuck Elizabeth Warren the most.
Summons up all sorts of images.
And I didn't realise that's what you referred to them as over there
So how big is Donald's impeachment?
Elizabeth might be in for a pleasant surprise perhaps.
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@ethang5
@ebuc
It's not that the world's going to end.
It's that things might not be the same for human society.
It might mean that eventually there are a few less of us about. Which is probably a good thing from the planet's point of view.
Not that a planet actually gives a toss.
Although if there was an intelligent designer out there somewhere, then this sort of scenario would no doubt have been an integral part of their design anyway.
So no worries.
All's always for the best perhaps.
Or perhaps not maybe.
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@ethang5
The stupidity was not in my thoughts
You assumed my stupidity, so it was definitely in your thoughts.
And Jesus fashioned a scourge.
Not an instantaneous response then.
A pre-meditated act of corporal punishment more like.
Whatever turns you on as they say.
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@Dr.Franklin
So, one solar system (as far as we know) out of how many? Where circumstances enable the development of organic compounds and consequently life.
Absolutely amazing and inexplicable from the point of view of the human spectator.
And so?
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At the end of the proverbial day, social reality for the majority of people (Christians included) is far more about turning a buck than it is about religion.
And making a fast buck is fair game for Liberals and Conservatives alike. There's no moral high ground to be had.
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