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Yep.
If folk want to be diverse equal and included. Then why do they, at the same time, continue to strive to be the opposite.
Well, there are reasons.
Just saying.
Is 40 days a sort of biblical style thing?
Are they metaphorically casting Target into the wilderness?
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@Greyparrot
@sadolite
@Dr.Franklin
Yep.
Americans coming to terms with the new World order.
We had a similar wake up call 50 or so years ago.
And once it was oil.
And now it's rare earth minerals.
Such is the necessity of material evolution...Or so it seems.
When GODDO dropped us of here, they must have known a thing or two.
If they're monitoring progress, they will currently be saying to each other...Ah, looks like they're now at the rare earth phase.
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@sadolite
Hey, Chill.
Freedom of choice allows you to ignore or respond.
You choose to respond.
Though do you really place so much importance on a low key discussion forum?
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@vi_777
Nope, I'm an old fart and not used to your text speak.
For example:
What I thot of cz yk time
I still haven't worked this out
And was just saying that cause and effect, is reasoning for a reason.
Rather than spontaneous bursts of unprovoked reasoning.
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@fauxlaw
The story.
Yep, the tale, the myth, the analogy...I wouldn't disagree.
Society began with the birth of a first child after Eden.
Yep they were so empowered by the big guys provision of endocrinal and reproductive systems... Why did he do that I wonder?
And not forgetting the people of Nod... It's nice to be blithe every now and then.
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@Shila
Which is a problem that arises when people split into separate people clubs, and certain clubs assume a superior status.
Us Brits and our empire built upon the industrial revolution became so deluded, for a while.
Of course it would be sensible as a species to all club together.
But we have other distractions to deal with, such as religion, ethnicity, culture and testosterone, to name but four.
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Yep, seems that un-Statesmen-like Statesmen, is the new US normal.
Looks like we have to ride it out for a while.
Probably best to ignore them.
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@Yassine
Oh well.
I could say the same about you Yas.
A necessary being, is a solely word based concept relative to the ongoing uncertainty of an unnecessary but seemingly necessary acceptance of a particular genre of unverifiable creation and existence theory.
Basically a GOD exists because it cannot not exist.
Though we can replace the word GOD with any other word/s.
How about cosmic super-banana?
Of course, The necessary being was inevitably regarded as "HIM", relative to our own predicament...
So, Mr Cosmic Super-Banana it is then.
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@fauxlaw
I wouldn't disagree with that Faux.
Though I think that the Adam and Eve story, was as much to do with developing social attitudes towards human sexuality, as it was about the early biological evolution of the species...Though I would suggest that that the two emerging social dilemmas were always going to be inextricably linked.
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@Stephen
Hi Stephen.
I think I have also said the same things many times.
In short, a naive and more fanciful interpretation of known facts, relative to intellectual and scientific development of the time.
Though, just as one would expect, the basic principle is reasonable.
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@Sidewalker
Well a slight contradiction there.
Because if in a literal translation is not always available, then the paraphraser/s have to "make up" an alternative.
But yes, otherwise, you perfectly substantiated the point I was trying to make.
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@Shila
Maybe.
But the Chinese are able to do things cheaply...Which is all to do with comparative National and sociological evolution.
Nonetheless, intellectual development is a global phenomenon,... It's just that currently, it comes cheaper in China.
But this didn't answer my question.
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@Dr.Franklin
Why is this a national issue?
Because a Nation is primarily a collection of people relative to a land mass, which includes women.
(In fact the USA, has a slightly greater female to male make up).
National Culture defines it's individuality, and culture evolves.
Therefore all aspects of both tradition and cultural evolution are relevant national issues, and have to be considered as such.
Things such as women's sport, or misogynistic theo-traditionalism.
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@Shila
Maybe.
The future's a long time though.
And there will eventually be places to go.
Perhaps not for thousands of years...But just think how well evolved AI will be by then.
Do you think that Chinese intellect will be able to keep up?
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@Dr.Franklin
Top of the morning Doc.
Do you not care, or are you not interested?
I personally think that women are as entitled to participate in sport as we are...Not that I am particularly interested in what they actually do.
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@Dr.Franklin
Well stated Doc.
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@Yassine
Possible and necessary are not synonymous.
Necessity implies need
Possibility says maybe.
So one could say that an interventionist creator maybe needed.
Or maybe not.
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@fauxlaw
I am of the opinion, that an Interventionist Super-Intelligence (If one should exist), is far more sensible than you give it credit for.
Nonetheless I would be interested to read an exact copy of Ezra's original message...Whereabouts does the original manuscript reside?
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@Shila
Well, a real person being a real person, is what it is.
Though being an executed itinerant is not so good.
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@RemyBrown
The other alternative is, Trump dies soon.
And Putin thought that he could isolate Ukraine.
And since WW2 The US has been blundering around the Globe with their immense super-power, trying to subdue goat farmers.
Before eventually running back home with their tails between their legs.
Nah...Much harder in practice than it is on paper.
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@Sidewalker
And the US is Canada's arse.
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@vi_777
Hey Vi.
You need to get your AI to brush up on it's spelling.
And I would suggest that we reason for a reason.
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@Shila
He already answered this particular question.
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@Shila
If you say so.
Who knows how the future of humanity will pan out in an AI World.
Would AI have the need to be globally competitive like it's human forbears?
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@Shila
Hmmmm.
Check out your dictionary Shila and look up myth.
No reason why Jesus wouldn't be a real character, set in a mythical narrative.
And scholars are as scholars do, and are scholarly about their chosen interests.
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@RemyBrown
Well, it wouldn't be the same thing would it.
And I'm sure that Canada is reasonably self sufficient and well connected enough, to not worry too much about a trade war with the US.
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@Best.Korea
For sure, all medical and surgical intervention prolongs life expectancy.
Such is the nature of things.
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@RemyBrown
In terms of sensibility it would be far better if Canada annexed the US.
Though why the fuck would Canada want to do that?
You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear, as the saying goes.
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@Best.Korea
@RemyBrown
Natural selection eventually gave us vaccines.
Just as it eventually gave us all other medicines. (Treat the symptoms and the complications, or treat the cause).
And DebateArt.
Though for sure, is 8.2 billion a necessity?
Maybe so, maybe not.
We just don't know.
But in the main, we think that we are a necessity. (Thoughts are nonetheless variable). But in the main.
Does RFK trade on the acronym?
And is it Measles Vaccine, or is it Measels Vacciene...That is the question.
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@Yassine
For sure, contingency is merely a life time of process.
And why is a possibility necessarily a necessity?
And the rest is a latter day version of a previous version of......
And as wordy as it maybe, it still doesn't prove a sausage.
And a GOD maybe, regardless of my suggestions.
And your suggestions too.
Or maybe not.
Such is the bottom line of all these GOD hypotheses.
And "Instructing kids" is about the strength of it.
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@Shila
How?
Justification of worth to the bottom line.
Ask Fauxlaw.
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@FLRW
@Shila
Christ Myth Theory.
Undoubtedly.
Gospel:
Old English for a good story.
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@Shila
If humanity does have a greater universal significance, then given our limitations, I would suggest that AI is essential to it's progress.
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@Shila
14 kids to feed.
He needs the money.
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@FLRW
G. Mary, I call this my Holy Spirit.
M. Good Lord big boy.
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@Yassine
Hi Yas, just waiting to see if you have something to say.
If I don't here soon, I just will assume that you have run out of ideas.
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@fauxlaw
So, call on Dad for me and send him over to my place...I assume that he already knows the Address.
And as I stated, Middle English didn't develop until a thousand years later.
Just pointing out Faux. that modern data doesn't necessarily validate archaic texts...Just reinvents them relative to the expectations of the reviewer...Irrespective of whether it be a 300 year, or 1300 year exercise... If I were to ask you tomorrow, to repeat this paragraph unaided and unpractised, how much would you accurately remember...And what if 300 years from now the same question were to asked of a Chinese speaker.
So who was the person who followed Jesus about, jotting down his exact words...And where are the original copies...And in what language were they written.
And can you send me a copy of the first Greek translation so that I can verify that it is accurate.
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@FLRW
Hmmmmm.
Making Christmas decorations.
And occasionally hanging coats if they had been found guilty.
Of course, before the introduction of wardrobes, coat hangers were hopeless...And it was impossible to get to Narnia.
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@Shila
As I stated, the word trinity is of Middle English origin, from somewhere between the 11th to the 15th centuries AD...So quite obviously won't be found in Ancient Semitic or Hebrew scripture.
"Bible" is also of Middle English origin.
So the Council of Nicaea sat in Bithynia and was headed by a Roman Serb, and with the help of a cadre of translators attempted to make sense of several hundred years of Chinese whispers...(Best of luck Guys)
Did you know that Vladimir the Great spread Christianity throughout Russia during the 9th century AD.
Funny, seeing as the Name Russia wasn't used until the 16th century AD, and the word Christianity is also of Middle English origin.
OK, so a whole lot of cross referencing going on...But nonetheless exemplifies the inevitability of inconsistencies in later day versions of 2000 to 3000 year old texts.
That's if such texts were actually factual rather than just exaggerated word of mouth recollections.
Notwithstanding that the MANGOD principle wasn't something new, anyway...Just reinvented.
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@fauxlaw
The bible is what it has become.
Who knows if it is an accurate reinterpretation, transcription, translation of historical fact, folklore or fanciful hypothesis.
Constantine and his cadre of translators were 300 years too late.
So context is unachievable unless the Big Guy does a fly by and puts the record straight.
And I was simply pointing out that modern Christianity and Trinity are clearly of much later European production.
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@Greyparrot
A man of ideological mystery, who describes himself as libertarian.
Save for Cats and Star Trek.
Nope, I'm not a flag man or enamoured of any divisive symbolism.
So China is keen to redraw maps. ..Not much Putin can do about that.
And with a 14000 mile border to defend and not many true friends, save for a few Orthodox Slavs and perhaps a current North Korean boyfriend.
(Not even sure that Lukashenko's love is as undying as it once was).
How do you predict Russia's future, moving on from it's current boggy position in Eastern Ukraine?
Indeed, moving on when?
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@Stephen
@Shila
Trinity is a middle English word, derived from the Latin trinitas.
Nothing remotely Semitic or Hebrew about the word.
So clearly made up later by Europeans.
As was most of modern Christianity.
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@Greyparrot
Hey, the ongoing Russo-Soviet autocratic record for mass ethnic extermination, beats Hitler hands down.
So does it's total disregard for it's own cannon fodder and any internal dissent.
And you love these people...So perhaps you should buy a one way ticket and go sign up.
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@Best.Korea
Ships are easily sunk, even with rudimentary ordinance.
As the Ukrainians proved.
A direct hit on a munitions and fuel laden ship is likely to end in total disaster.
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@Shila
Well, intelligence is as intelligence does.
And the current human ability to exponentially evolve matter into alternative data management systems, is a demonstrable testament to its intellectual capability.
So organic organisms took a while to get this far...But actually they only took as long as they did...Our retrospective impatience is inconsequential.
Though our current inability to comfortably exist beyond this planets protective shields, might suggest where the intellectual future lies.
Of course, intelligence might have no Greater universal significance...Which would imply, that neither does humanity.
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@Best.Korea
Bedtime now BK.
Sleep tight she would say to me.
Lilac Earth Mother.
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@Best.Korea
As in all events.
Buds spread crimson if and when
Ice and snow relents.
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