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@bmdrocks21
The effects of 1930's politics, eventually resulted in the deaths of some 80 million people by the mid 1940's.

All because certain people were regarded as not equal.
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@PGA2.0


It's not a case of chicken and egg is it?

The Tall Tales clearly came first.



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@Dr.Franklin
It's called Democracy.

People being allowed to have an opposing point of view.

It seems that you would prefer a "House" run by fascists.
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@PGA2.0
Prove it.
It is you that must prove the tall tale.

I have nothing to prove.

Censor.
Prove the God before attempting to condition others..

Projection.
Projection.

Truth or falsity.
You only assume that you know the difference.
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@bmdrocks21
Not all immigrants are equal.

Echo's of the 1930's there.
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Should the US invade Africa with the long term goal of making the continent many US states?
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@Alec
I think that you overestimate U.S. capability.

The U.S. has made a pigs ear out off just about every invasion it has undertaken or instigated since WW2.
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@bmdrocks21
Yep.

All of which were immigrants or descendants of immigrants.
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@disgusted
We do not fear death.

Though we are troubled by the thought of non-existence.

One would assume that a Christian would not be so troubled, what with all that heaven stuff.

Contradictions Contradictions!

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@bmdrocks21
America. Americans.
Yep. But what is an American?
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@PGA2.0
There is a correct and an incorrect way of understanding what anyone says.
What you mean is, there are always two sides to an argument.


And God never said anything.

Nonetheless, your belief in tall tales is absolutely fine, as long as it stays inside your head.

You must remember though, that not everyone is as gullible as you.

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@Stephen
The most important question Christians should ask.
Is, why do I bother with all this nonsense?

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@bmdrocks21
Historically we.
Who are we?
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@TheRealNihilist
Which is worse?

Choosing who to date irrespective of political correctness?

Or being forced to date in respect of political correctness?
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@bmdrocks21
Third World

I think that you are underestimating people, and over estimating the U.S.A..

With maybe a sprinkling of old fashioned bias and paranoia thrown into the mix.

Given that the modern  U.S.A. is a nation founded on  immigration, this would seem to be a tad hypocritical.






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@ebuc
Well stated.
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God is Black
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@Inferno
Man created the Bible.

Therefore man created god in his own image.

Stands to reason.
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Basically people who believe in God
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@Inferno
The supernatural.
Can be explained verbally as the supernatural.

Though by definition anything supposedly supernatural can only ever be an assumption rather than a known fact.

So you pays your money and you takes your pick, as they say.

And I pick assumption, and assumption is what it is.

So how would you, explain the fact of the matter?

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@ebuc
Simply pointing out your contradictions.
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What is Religion About?
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@Athias
So we know what religion is about.
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Use Intelligent Design.............
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@Stephen
God was lonely.
That's a straightforward and reasonable suggestion.


But what designed the intelligent designer?..... Probably a previously lonely designer, who also endured the same anxieties.

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There'll never be closure on whether God exists
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@ethang5
Inappropriate use of the word belief.

I accept the status quo and have no time for blind faith.

Current thoughts tend towards a creation event followed by an evolutionary sequence.

No hard evidence available regarding a specific creation event.

Though material development/evolution has been clearly apparent in my own lifetime.


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@ebuc
Universe separate from this universe.
Neither was I talking about this.

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@disgusted
Undoubtedly.
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@SirAnonymous
Perhaps the ultimate designer, designed evolution.

If you're that clever, why waste your time creating things.

Just provide the raw materials, mix them all together in a Big Bang and then sit back and relax and see how things unfold.

Provides an ongoing source of entertainment and amusement, without the daily hassle of a 9 to 5 creation job.

The intelligent designer probably sits in their lounger chair sipping a cold beer, having a right laugh at the things we get up to.
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@ebuc
Previous Universe
You previously denounced my notion of a previous universe as lacking logical rational common sense.

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You couldn't make it up.
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@ethang5
But vehemently denounce London's democratically elected Mayor because he doesn't fit with your image of a perfect human being.

And you have guns.

Links Rechts Links Rechts Links Rechts.
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@ethang5
Beware!

You might be only one goose step away from the edge.


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@3RU7AL
An actual sighting of something lurking in the undergrowth, irrespective of what it might or might not be, is what it is.

The delusion is assuming without proof, that it is bigfoot.

Similarly, continued belief in a god of which there is no real proof is also delusional.

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@ethang5
That's your Christmas present sorted.

Jack boots and goose stepping lessons.

Sieg Heil.
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@Athias
Children are trained.

Children are programmed.

We all have the same inherent data or a basic operating system.

But postnatally we acquire data relative to a specific national or cultural environment.

So basically how we respond to religious data is primarily dependant upon where we were born and consequently how intensively we were formatively programmed.

Religion is simply about postnatally acquired data.
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I am Virtuoso. Jewish * Democratic Socialist * Aspie. AMA
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@David
Who's really dictates U.S. policy?
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@ebuc
The Worlds oldest known stone temple perhaps.

But undoubtedly not the Worlds first temple.
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@ethang5
Do you have a problem with homosexuals?

Is your conservatism so extreme?

You display both homophobia and Islamophobia.

And your verbal attack on Sadiq Khan was particularly extreme and unnecessary.

You are a hairs breadth away from being exactly the same as what you think you so belligerently condemn.
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@ethang5
So are you saying that atheists close on the fact that a god doesn't exist?
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@bmdrocks21
I think that Jesus was probably gay.

And paedophilia is only a crime when a law says that it is.
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@ethang5
Does it matter which variety of theist the millions are choosing or not choosing to become?
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@ethang5
I see that you're concentrating your efforts on intellectual debates.
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@disgusted
Fact is, no one actually knows what life is.
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@ethang5
Well, there must have been something worth responding to, because you took the time to respond to something.

Or perhaps you're just very polite.

Regards to you and Mrs Ethan.
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@ethang5
So that's basically it then.

One can neither prove nor disprove something that is unprovable. 

So it's been confirmed that there will never be closure on whether a god exists or not.

Though I think we already new that before we started.

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@ebuc
Heck.

That's one sugging mad way of looking at it.

I wonder what ebuc will have to say about that.
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@Alec
Unfortunately the deterrent force is nuclear weapons.

Presently, any other conventional force is rendered impotent.

Though I expect scientists are beavering away in their secret research facilities, developing the next generation of environmentally friendly weapons of mass destruction.

As a species we've never really come to terms with the idea that peace is the better option. I think maybe, that we are hardwired not to.



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@EtrnlVw
It's easy to create spirituality and also very easy to explain.

And regarding the soul:
If something is made up, then certainly the process can be evidenced, but that does not automatically make the concept itself valid.

And similarly:
Waxing lyrically about theism does not automatically validate that concept. Waxing lyrically simply evidences your ability to string words together effectively.



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@DynamicSquid
Eg. What today is generally regarded as Paedophilia, probably used to be accepted as the norm at one time.

Though what is the point of judging history anyway. Even if a judgement is made, history can't be changed.

Unless we are talking about re-judging those still living of course.
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@ethang5
As I stated.

Matthew, Luke and Mark all say a similar thing as do the Women.....Chinese whispers.

As is the ensuing development of biblical tales and thus religious ritual.

Like wearing your best hat to church on a Sunday.


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@Deb-8-a-bull
If you can find it, you can have it.
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@EtrnlVw
Of course there is no evidence for the existence of a soul.

It's just an internal data programme.

Changing minds is reprogramming the human computer. Which is almost impossible under normal conditions.

Simply trying to overwrite with alternative data will not erase the established operating system.


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@RationalMadman.


Probably raised by parents, who were raised by parents, who were raised by parents. Who were all formatively conditioned with the same old tosh.
Throw in a handful of good old inherent racism, and bobs your uncle, you've got yourself yet another religious nut job.

Such is humanity.

As it ever will be.
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@Stephen
We still attempt to answer the same question.....What's up there?
Albeit with a more scientific approach these days.

Ascent, descent or stay put.
Which one would have undoubtedly been the more attractive basis for a fanciful story?

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@disgusted
I think that the preceding nineteen pages of waffle, suggest that morality is probably subjective.
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