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@MayCaesar
Dear. Sir, Madam or Otherwise.,
It's absolutely up to you, but if you would like to contribute a little something towards the running of community and national, infrastructure and services, then that would be very nice.
But please feel under no obligation whatsoever, to do so.
Yours sincerely.
Mr Fluffy.
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@fauxlaw
@LucyStarfire
Murder and mayhem is the work of humans.
As are the literary characters, referred to as God, Satan and Sauron.
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I am going now to calm down and focus on other stuff irl.
LOL.
IRL...Never was there a more comedic opportunity proffered by a single man in his bedroom.
But I will refrain.
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@David
Hmmmmmmmmmm.
Rebranding is just an exercise in rebranding, and I can't see how it would make the slightest difference to anything.
Though if that is what the site owner/s want, then that is their prerogative.
I would nonetheless suggest that "debate" is intrinsically necessary, and if art has outworn its usefulness the replace it with something equally as catchy, like fart.
Only joking.
How about, DebateOwl. Replacing the current logo (which looks like a bottom bracket bearing) with a wise old Owl...Perhaps not radical enough for you young radicals.
And as I continue to stress, moderation should be moderate, not authoritarian.
And freedom of speech is essential, otherwise the site becomes an unattractive, pat on the back, eulogizing, mono-ideological clique.
In my opinion.
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@yachilviveyachali
I have only recently stopped.
The living human organism continues to develop, until it ceases to function.
Your assertion is rather arbitrarily in the moment.
So in terms of functional development, one can only say, that once procreational ability is established, then this is when the organism is functionally complete.
The development of knowledge and social interaction is also an ongoing process and doesn't stop at age 25 or 26.
What do they grasp quicker?
Knowledge.
Data sources were far more limited and less accessible to children prior to the advent of personal social media devices.
It would be naive to say that this is not patently apparent...There again, I was born in 1960, so I have the advantage of first hand knowledge, from which to make comparisons.
I would suggest, that the human is what it is, and therefore "flawed" is an adjective that I would not use to describe the human condition.
And AI is an "extension" of an ongoing process of material development, as were humans...Therefore neither is an "imposter".
As I see it, both were inevitable evolutionary developments, and neither is there a collective human will to "stamp out" material progress.
Quite the opposite in fact, modern humans are now functionally dependent upon technology and things will only develop further.
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@yachilviveyachali
A human is fully functionally developed in their early teens, sometimes before...Such is the reality of the organism.
Though the reality of overthink and conceptualism demands more...Such demands are largely based upon money and materialism.
And today the smartphone...Children grasp things far quicker these days, but money and material achievement is driven by demand and competition.
But in terms of global social cohesion, the species is no better developed than it was 85 years ago largely due to the established concepts of nationalism, theism, cultural differences and consequent selfishness and greed.
To be honest, without technological intervention (AI), I'm not confident that the species would ever learn to function as a cooperative whole.
And you and I think we are better than the others, and the others think that they are better than us.
And we all think that we are virtuous and morally righteous.
But the trouble is, there is no greater authority to decide what is and isn't virtuous and morally righteous.
What we need is a massive spaceship to rock up, with the letters G.O.D emblazoned on it.
You never know.
Though if species development conforms to a universal law, then chances are that G.O.D are intergalactic arseholes.
Though if material development conforms to a universal law, perhaps G.O.D will be technological pragmatists.
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@Greyparrot
All government is a level of tyranny, it's the way government and social collectives function.
The alternative would be anarchy.
Though anarchy would not work, because people would rapidly organise into collectives based upon natural hierarchy, which would be more or less tyrannical.
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@LucyStarfire
Only because you do.
Though "always" is a bit of an exaggeration.
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@LucyStarfire
Hmmmmmmmm.
I think that 6 out of 10 as generally above average, needs little consideration.
Nonetheless it is still 40% below perfect.
Though if that result was rounded up, you might only be a 5.5.
OK, so it might have been a 6.4.
Though, as you lie in bed all day fiddling with your devices, your looks are perhaps somewhat irrelevant.
To impress a real person, you would need to get up and about, and make yourself look financially and socially viable.
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@LucyStarfire
My chief interest was in the extensive numbers of women you are associate with...The "plenty" who fuck horses and dogs.
In order to know this fact, you must therefore know them.
Other than that I have no interest in your fantasy based masturbation.
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@FLRW
@LucyStarfire
Taoism is just Tao with ism on the end.
So time to do some chores now.
Though I will make a cup of tea first, and will probably need to urinate also.
Such is Taoism on a daily basis.
And some people relative to a conditioned need, will perhaps do a bit of religious stuff.
And approximately 170500 people will die today, which is about 2 per second.
Though 4.3 will be born in that second.
It's the way it goes Taologically.
You see, I took Tao and popped logically on the end.
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@yachilviveyachali
@LucyStarfire
Degeneration is an unavoidable condition, whereas morality is as morality does.
Plenty of women do fuck with horses and dogs.
Yep, fucking about with horses and dogs is popular.
As is fucking about with hens or golf clubs.
Though I doubt that BK actually knows any woman in a meaningful equine or canine relationship, nor any person that self penetrates with a sand wedge.
I expect his research is fantasy online porn based.
In fact, I think that BK is fantasy online porn based.
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@LucyStarfire
Bet your Mom still washes your soiled sheets and underpants.
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@n8nrgim
Buddhism and Christianity.
Fantasy based escapism with certain practical applications.
Though any strict ideological adherence will have to incorporate day to day practicality.
The determination of superiority and therefore inferiority, would be largely relative to social conditioned bias, and/or the necessity of stringing together a reasonably eloquent, and intellectual essay, which itself would likely be influenced to some degree by socially conditioned bias.
Personally, I have no need to to critically differentiate between the two fantasy concepts as I have no socially conditioned bias in relation to either.
And therefore, would simply be an emotionless research based academic exercise in critical differentiation.
But in terms of televisual entertainment, Kung Fu Panda is perhaps superior to Jesus of Nazareth.
Though The Life of Brian was undoubtedly good fun.
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@Swagnarok
Interesting how we respond differently to sounds.
And how appreciation of sound varies over time.
Perhaps more to do with social conditioning.
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@ultramaximus2
@LucyStarfire
Shit and piss are essential bi-products and should be treated with respect.
Do not fear them, for they are your friends.
Whereas toxic cleaning products are your worst enemy.
And plumbers are well versed in the art of ripping you off.
Plumbing is easy.
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@AdaptableRatman
Virginity is sacred to catholics
Virginity is perhaps sacred to certain devout Catholics, especially in places where the Catholic Church has a strong political and indoctrinating influence.
As for homosexuality, well, that has always been an issue for Catholics.
Not that Jesus and his fellow bromancers were members of the Catholic Church.
Though washing and anointing with oils was very much a thing.
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@AdaptableRatman
This is outright racism and abuse.
No it's not.
It's outright entertaining comedic nonsense and should be treated as such.
And the "N" word is just a left wing masturbation focus...In my opinion.
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@yachilviveyachali
Yep, I agree with most of what you say you.
There's certainly been no big effort to come to the rescue of Palestinians.
Though NATO was US led coalition, in response to a communist threat.
And certain Americans sure felt threatened by the idea of communism.
Whereas, over here communism was just a cool and radical left wing alternative.
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@Sidewalker
I do.
Often when it is now in England, it is then in Wales.
Living in the past is popular for wannabee isolationist Celts.
Not sure how wide a borderline is, but those few millimetres make all the difference.
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@Lemming
Broccoli, mushroom and feta tart is more of a quiche, though Mr Macron prefers Brits to call it a tart.
Yep, braver man than me too.
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@LucyStarfire
Women that do get more sunlight do age faster.
What you are referring to is a comparison relative to varying levels of exposure to sunlight.
Though people still age at the same rate.
One day at a time.
So, 60 years after birth, both a sun worshipper and a shrinking violet will both be 60.
One might be Brown and wrinkly and the other smooth and pale.
Though the smooth and pale one is not necessarily guaranteed to live longer.
Mrs Wrinkly might be a vegetarian, whereas Mrs Pale might have a diet of lard and bacon.
And listen to Brother Ratman and keep your armpits washed, and your anus and (you know what) moisturised.
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@yachilviveyachali
Hmmmmmmmmm.
Just about every military action taken up by the US in the last 50 years has required the support of Western Europe.
For obvious reasons, predominately Western Europe and the US have always been allied.
And for obvious reasons, the US and Europe have always been allied to Israel.
Sustaining current allegiances with Moderate Islamic States, might prove difficult.
Though I don't think that moderate Islamic States. would want to get militarily involved.
Currently everyone still wants oil and flashy cars.
Though I suppose that we must also factor in Trump.
So who knows.
Of course the simple alternative would for everyone to be friends.
LOL.
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@Lemming
Yep, Minnesotan Law maker and husband shot dead.
Seemed politically motivated.
Though, probably just another nut job with a gun.
Reasons for pain.
Nervous system response, that informs the host and its protective mechanisms where the problem lies.
Don't overthink the issue and look for secondary emotional concepts.
Animals suffer relative physiological stress...It's a tad arrogant to think otherwise.
Think of it as recycling rather than reincarnation.
Today a corpse tomorrow a bacteria, a nematode or a bean, wherein an atom might end up in someone sometime in the future.
Coping skills.
The ability to cope under the sustained pressure of existence.
Just potatoes?
Yesterday evening I made spinach and ricotta tortellini with a tomato, courgette and basil sauce.
Porridge for breakfast as usual.
I have stewed gooseberries on the stove, ready for a crumble later.
Mrs Zed made a broccoli mushroom and feta tart, for later.
I like reading but, it's hard for me to find a good book that suits my mind set.
The last book I read was The Places In Between, by Rory Stewart...I might give another of his books a go.
The Marches perhaps, because that is where I live.
I don't play computer games.
I prefer to do puzzles.
Have a nice day.
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@LucyStarfire
So where you from BK?
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@WyIted
Hmmmmm
As far as I can tell, a dodgy product of US society...Plenty of them me thinks.
And if reports of their ideology are to be believed, probably more right than left.
"No Kings"...Who makes up this stuff.
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@Lemming
Where you been Lemming?
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@AdaptableRatman
Are you seriously pro Iran.
Don't think I've ever mentioned that.
Nope I'm seriously pro peace.
A handful of people start wars that most people don't want to fight.
It's largely the age old testosterone problem brought up to date by the evolution of weaponry and separatist ideology.
Same old clever stupid shit.
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@AdaptableRatman
Matthew of the Bible.
Somewhat sketchy tax collector, not known to have written anything.
Matthew's Gospels were perhaps composed 200 years or more after his obscure death, by some Greek guy.
A bit like youngsters on this site, Jesus and Matthew fuelled with testosterone probably had all sorts of whacky ideas.
No girlfriends to speak of, so you make your own mind up.
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@FLRW
Yep.
Too many grass chewers, with a shed full of guns and no brains.
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@LucyStarfire
Anyway.
When the Israeli shit hits the fan Trump will be drafting you into the army, Russian style.
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@LucyStarfire
Who even cares about politicians.
Their friends and families maybe.
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As I see it, apostles were just gullible numpties, prepared to traipse about with a charlatan who claimed to be the son of a MANGOD.
Who might have written what, when and where later on, is all a tad sketchy.
Though some people will claim to know stuff that they cannot possibly know.
A lot of whom, just quote from a English translation hashed together in the 17th century.
Which isn't to underestimate the contribution of religious power houses towards scientific discovery and material evolution.
Though in doing so, they sort of shot themselves in their creationist foot.
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Things is sure going downhill y'all.
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@AdaptableRatman.
If there is a GOD, I'm confident that it is omni-sensible and not the ridiculously vindictive bloke you bible bashers make him out to be.
He probably looks at us and says to Gabriel, that Zed's a cool dude, but that Ratman, he so full of angst, needs to learn to chill out.
Bless them.
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@yachilviveyachali
The Israelis were in a hole.
And now they're digging an even bigger hole.
And they will expect the US. to dig them out.
And the US will expect European support.
Which might not be so forthcoming.
Watch this space.
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@n8nrgim
Same old human stupidity.
All based upon nonsense.
Not much changes.
If at all.
Upwards of 30 Nations around the globe experiencing some level of armed conflict or civil unrest.
The U.S. to name but one.
40000 years and still haven't learned.
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@AdaptableRatman
Vitriol is what I have received from many members here long before now and even now.
A. Quid pro quo
B. You see contention as a threat rather than as a challenge, and you respond badly.
C. You are inclined towards some sort of persecution complex.
Perhaps then, in the spirit of your new found Christian calling, you should learn to turn the other cheek.
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@AdaptableRatman
For sure.
Ignore me if you can.
That's your prerogative.
Though shying away from reasonable discourse and contention, speaks volumes.
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@AdaptableRatman
OT is sort of a mythical history relating to a few Middle Eastern Tribes.
It is what it is.
Though the Earth was a whole lot bigger than a few thousand square miles of the Middle East...Funny how none of them get a mention.
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@AdaptableRatman
No insults hurled.
Just questioning the compatibility of a 2000 year old existence and creation hypothesis based upon a MANGOD, with todays understanding of material existence and universal properties.
I simply suggest that man created MANGOD because he knew no better...Not because of his IQ status, but simply because modern scientific data was not available to him.
I get the impression that you do not like your new found faith being challenged, because you know that it is easily challenged...Hence your inappropriate accusation.
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@AdaptableRatman
That is the way of moderating.
That would be the Russian way of moderating.
I would suggest that moderation should be moderate.
Sort of, calmly thought through, without bias and vitriol, type of thing.
I think there is clue in the word somewhere.
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@AdaptableRatman
Hmmmmmmm.
What did I say was a lie?
I asked you to prove that your GOD was real and that the Bible Tales were not written by ignorant men for ignorant numpties.
I did not imply that such an hypothesis was a lie. I clearly stated that I thought it to be analogical and reasonable, relative to time, place and knowledge.
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@AdaptableRatman
What is it that tames us that isn't a lie?
I just don't get what you're driving at.
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@AdaptableRatman
Wrong on the fact it tames us does not render it untrue.
What on Earth does that mean?
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@AdaptableRatman
Nope, you should know by now that I am an agnostic atheist.
I follow no organised religion, Abrahamic or otherwise.
Though I hypothesise widely about creation and existence.
As such, religions that developed from the Middle East two thousand or so years ago, are naive hypotheses, but reasonably analogical.
Though they have a bizarre tendency to portray a super-intelligent creator as some sort of illogically vindictive numpty.
Which strongly leads me to the conclusion, that it was all made up by ignorant men for ignorant numpties.
Prove me wrong.
No, don't just spout scriptural and ritual gobbledygook.
Actually prove me wrong.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
The body politic.
Please expand.
"The body politic" is a generalisation.
The US. body politic for example is roughly a 50-50 split of two bodies politic.
And further to that, said bodies will continue to sub-divide.
So in relation to the question, who specifically are "the body of people" that you refer to.
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@FLRW
I've just read through the Forum topic entitled "Hardest times of your life".
If ever proof of juvenile non-wisdom was ever needed, you will find it there.
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