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Very true Stephen.

People don't offend.

People pretend to be offended.

Though, I expect that most of the 2 billion don't give a monkey's

Don't log in.

You've never been to Wales then?

Thanks for that Wylted, are you Owen_T's spokesperson?

One way or another rules is oppression.

And man makes rules to oppress his fellow man.

And I don't need to prove that there isn't a GOD, because currently there isn't one.

You stated that "God commanded", which is therefore incorrect.

So I know, that what you think you know and what you actually know are two different things.

How can something appear from nothing?

Look.

Before people come out with tosh, like GOD restricted diet and commanded circumcision.

They really need to prove unequivocally, that a GOD exists.

As far as we know, men restricted diets and men command circumcision.

Just like some perverse men still command circumcision, and some stupid people still restrict diet for ideological reasons.

Which is of course not to say that some people should restrict their diets  for size and health related reasons.

Actually, he must possess a certain amount of smartness.

What he lacks is statesmanship

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

They just bleat along with the rest of the flock.

No thought required.

Hello Shila.

What's your point?

Nonetheless:

To be liked, is a fickle state of affairs.

And to be liked by most, would require one to be known by most.

And celebrity for example, comes with just as much resentment as it does with adulation.

Though adulation of celebrity, tends to be shallow sycophancy.

Because to seek widespread adulation is shallow and vain.

Better to be appreciated and tolerated by ones immediate connections. 

In my opinion.

Most people don't know you.

Debt is the norm.

I thought you were Bono.

Begorrah!

White robes, longish hair and beard.

These Middle Eastern types all looked the same.

It's obvious that they used a stunt double.

If you remember, he was well documented, and referred to as Brian.

Satirical maybe.

But nonetheless as Feasible as any other nonsense.

The trolley problem is a purely hypothetical, unrealistic, philosophical proposition.

There are no rules.

My trolley was in good working order, with effective brakes, so no one got hurt.

Previously, I was simply pointing out that your statement, "the trolley prevents zero deaths" did not make sense.

Prior to that I only stated "hypothetically, 0 deaths".

I wouldn't accuse anyone of being retarded, but nonetheless, getting worked up over a ridiculous philosophical hypothesis is a tad silly.

True, a trolley neither prevents nor causes deaths...It's just a trolley.

Though a trolley that prevents zero deaths, is therefore inaccurately perceived to prevent some deaths.

In which case, unless we can accurately predict how many deaths might have occurred before the trolley intervened, we can not accurately say how many deaths either would have or would not have occurred either before or after the trolley's intervention.

There is nothing either objective or therefore correct, in relation to the trolley problem.

It wouldn't matter if there were 10 trillion hypothetical deaths.

I say the trolley should have been fixed in accordance with the laws of longtermism...Hypothetically, 0  deaths.

HaHa.

Someone put long and term together, stuck an ism on the end, and came up with longtermism.

That's a becauseyoucanism.

But for sure, with thebenefitofhindsightism, longtermism would be a sensiblestrategyism.

Perhaps. 

As the human situation is seemingly so futile then.

We might just as well waste resources on A as waste them on B.

It will help fill in the time between now and oblivion.

Or pray and fight over imaginary creators.

Such is theism Trade.

People made stuff up,

In response to something,

But as yet,

No one has a clue.

Though they make,

A flamboyant song and dance about it.

Such is non-sense.

Well, there either is or there isn't life elsewhere in the Universe.

Which is reason enough to examine the possibility.

Spatial probability relative to physical laws is also indicative enough.

The lack of actual physical or definitive sensory evidence is not a reason to not examine a probability based possibility.

Not anti-Jew, nor pro-Jew.

That's about the strength of it Trade.

A sensible person, rather than a non-sensible person, might suggest that it is best to be as tolerant as one can be under prevailing circumstances.

When people start adding various religious clubs into the mix, is when things have a tendency to get silly.

Sort of, I finally understand why a Middle Eastern religious club tried to trick a hypothetical creator.

Absolute non-sense Trade.

Jesus was the son of a loose woman and an unknown philanderer.

The devil character in the red latex suit, with big horns and a trident, is a sexual fantasy of yours.

The Earth will end when the Sun gives up the ghost.

And if we haven't escaped before then we will dehydrate if nothing else.

Though I'm guessing that some form of human inspired intelligence will have made it.

Some hormone or another I suspect.

Like:

Smother them in oil and get extremely excited.

And Jesus said, I shall smother thee in oil John and will getteth extremely excited.

Hey Deb.

Have you heard the expression, two wrongs don't make a right.

Well, similarly.

Two morals don't make you moraller.

Just like.

Two Koala's don't make a Dingo.

G'day Bruce.

You're correct as ever Doc.

Mrs Zed says stop projecting.

Begorrah! 

No riots in my neck of the woods.

Not sure what you hear in the U.S. But it's mostly intellectually retarded no hope white fools high on testosterone, looting Greggs for sausage rolls and gingerbread men.

And for sure they have an Asian type, equivalent.

They quietened down a bit once the courts started dishing out three year prison sentences.

Yep, it happens every now and then, when we have a bit of nice weather.

Top of the morning Doc.

Feel the butt on the in stroke.

It's how GOD intended.

What could be more moral than that Deb?

To quote Kylie.

I should be so lucky.

Yep.

Mrs Zed is on one of  her regular weekend visits to see her Mum in Pershore, so I tend to spend a bit more time on the laptop.

His name is Bod, and he likes to make sure that the neighbours cats don't get me.

Nice day tomorrow, have a good one.

It's all effing nonsense Trade.

No one is winning Doc.

Conflicts come to an end.

And then people carry on with stuff.

Putin will die shortly, and then there will be another old Russian man with erectile dysfunction to compensate for.

Or just sell 35 ready to go nukes for a trillion a piece.

It's a coping strategy that takes the focus away from our own inadequacies, Mr tiny dick.

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Yep that's right Mr. Moral

Partially morally sighted.

I could have sworn that she looked older than 15 your honour.

But I didn't have my spectacles in my shoulder bag.

Only my test-tickles in my ball bag.

For the next 12 hours.

Just call me Roger Frombehind.

As everyone else is in debt, does that mean that everyone else is going to collapse?

The reality is that there are about 8 billion people on this planet  who couldn't give a monkey's about national debt.

The only people who care are the one's who play the game.

A click of a few buttons and it all could be erased.

So can you answer this question:

Who owes what to whom?

All a part of the game.

It's only illegal if you get caught.

With your trousers down.

In the Sheep pen.

As I've stated before.

National debt is a geopolitical farce.

Worldwide, there are only two tiny States that reputedly have no National debt.

That leaves about 190 or so, that are in debt.

So Planet Earth is in debt to what?

True.

Within the context of material development, language and communication has proved to be a valuable asset.

Though the the term "immoral blight", certainly doesn't bring a whole lot to the evolutionary party.

In terms of data assessment, process dictates that everything is resultant of a subjective process.

Especially an abstract concept such as morality.

Within the current social state of play, doing reasonably well in education and securing a decent job is perhaps the best way to live a comfortable life.

You've got to be somewhere doing something.

You would soon get bored with idling about, consuming a diet of eggs and raspberries.

Nah.

Below average idiots with nothing better to do.

Or perhaps just a rational thinker.

Perhaps ultimately, everything is irrelevant.

Some people make the best of it.

Some people make a hell of a mess of it.

Hell or heaven is inside us.

Everything is inside us.

Some people just don't realise.

That's about the strength of it.

But, which version are you actually referring to?

The old tales have been translated transcribed and reinterpreted many times.

Hmmmmm.

How the genes developed is of little relevance.

What we know, is that humans were/are the instruments of ongoing material development, AKA evolution.

Though as I always state:

The idea that Planet Earth was initially seeded by a superior Universal intelligence, is a reasonable proposition. 

So:

Tomato tomotto.

Are simply, two symbolic arrangements.

One is representative and the other isn't.

Good fun Stephen.

Well done Owen_T.

Something to get ones teeth into as an appetizer to Sunday Lunch.