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@Mall
Striving to disprove species evolution theory is like striving to disprove deistic creation theory.
Heads and brick walls come to mind.
Personally I see creation and consequent evolution to be reasonably compatible ideas.
Whereas, middle eastern fantasy folk tales are just a part of the greater process of material evolution.
And material evolution is clearly a fact, otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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@IlDiavolo
I am British, but resigned to the fact that I am an Earthling.
I consider myself lucky to have been born British and consequently able to live in comparative peace and comfort for the past 64 years.
I'm grateful for what I have and don't blame others for what I cannot afford.
Am I proud?
Yep, I'm proud of my Dad for stepping up to the plate during WW2.
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@FLRW
I also bet she wouldn't refer to you as "tiny".
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@ebuc
10. Top most Orange U.S. President to hold a British Prime Ministers hand.
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@Greyparrot
Do you think that this type of data manipulation/political-speak is unusual?
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@Best.Korea
Despite peoples best efforts,
Or because of peoples best efforts,
Are we not outsmarting ourselves technologically?
Nonetheless,
In terms of human species, is there one or more than one?
I'm not saying that ideological differences between sub-groups is not significant.
But in terms of "conquering" this little speck of cosmic dust we call Earth...Is this all that matters?
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Shit happens.
Humans are well practiced at it.
I propose a Palestinian homeland in Southern Saudi Arabia.
I'm sure that they would be welcomed by the open and loving arms of Islam.
Wouldn't they?
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@3RU7AL
Yep, I think that it's fair to assume that currency systems will evolve electronically.
Bitcoin is a nominal alternative, though still valued relative to the Dollar.
Which is sort of how the system has always worked. Isn't it?
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@IlDiavolo
Well, I suspect that everything has evolved from matter.
And atheist in the true sense of the word.
Accepting the idea of a GOD principle, is just being open to ideas.
I just wonder how technology and the human mind are going to develop.
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@Lemming
Nice to see that you're back.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
It's certainly more media attention worthy.
Especially when there's a "porn star" in the mix.
Especially an attractive one named Stormy.
And an Orange Clown.
I think I've stated this before.
If you want a job as a Brain Surgeon, you need qualifications.
Whereas, if you want to be President of the USA, all you need is access to deep pockets.
Competence is irrelevant.
Have a nice day IWRA.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
I see.
So did Stormy also falsify her business records?
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@ebuc
Ebuc is a very smart dude.
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@3RU7AL
Yep, it would/will be interesting to see how earn, pay and buy systems develop.
Though I would suggest that we are all enslaved by need and expectation.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Yep.
But what has sexual philandering got to do with falsifying business records?
By having extra-marital sex with a porn star, has a Federal law been broken?
And see how you found it necessary to include a line of sleazy titivation into your statement.
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@Mall
Some people like to draw attention to themselves,
They use various methods.
Including the creation seemingly traumatic problems.
Which isn't to say that human overthink isn't a condition of the human mind.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Exactly.
So why the need to focus on a "porn star", other than to add a bit of sleaze for the viewing public?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Is it illegal for an adult male to consensually have sex with an consenting adult female?
What's the big deal other than media sleaze?
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@Mall
@baggins
Evolution is a word that describes a process.
Species evolution was a theory put forwards by Charles Darwin.
Material evolution is the process of material change from beginning to end, and species evolution either is or is not a phase thereof.
Though I would suggest that, as material evolution is clearly demonstrable, then it is likely that species evolution is a reasonable proposition.
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@3RU7AL
HaHa.
Sort of Catch 22.
Even if we're all connected to the data matrix via our personal devices or implants, something will need to weald absolute control over data content.
Otherwise there will just be a mish mash of mixed messages.
We need to seek advice from a Bee.
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@Mall
The urge is derived from internal electro-chemical signals, a product of the endocrine system.
Are you concentrating to much on the socio-conceptuality of the issue. Wherein, you feel the need to justify a certain aspect of human behaviour.
I would suggest, a behaviour that despite concerted modern efforts, is still deeply rooted in archaic taboos.
And let me just stress, I care not who does what with who, in the bedroom or on the kitchen table.
As long as they are all consenting adults.
I have a liberal view of sexuality.
And perhaps a more conservative view of human biological systems..
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@Mall
I asked you the same...So?
Nonetheless.
Gender and either euphoria or dysphoria are two words that are put together to describe something.
As such they have an inherent quality.
Do they describe a derived condition?
Yes.
Is Gender dysphoria a congenital condition?
Depends upon how one chooses to interpret the word congenital.
Currently I'm uncertain.
If It was just a one sided phenomena, one might suggest that it was an inherent environmental issue. But it seems odd that it affects both genders.
So I'm still of the mind to suggest that it is a socio-psychological phenomena.
Which could be described as recently inherited, I suppose.
The Jury's well and truly out on this one.
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@Best.Korea
People are people and variously adopt conscious operating systems, to which they apply various labels.
Trust is based upon character judgement and labels are not necessarily indicative of either good or bad characteristics.
If uncertain, talk about the weather or fluffy kittens, and avoid mentioning religion.
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@Mall
Yes" is affirmative, and "is it?" is a question.
Please clarify.
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@Mall
Well I shouldn't need to lecture you on the Birds and the Bees.
But, the ejaculation of the male seed is what temporarily satisfies the urge.
Where that seed might end up, is anyone's guess.
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@Mall
For sure.
There are 8.1 billion different world views, sharing similar ideas, that have not as yet become a cohesive whole.
Though I would suggest that before too long all electro-chemical data processing units will be connected to the expanding electronic data matrix.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Fresh cream and jam sponge.
Sounds like heaven.
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@Mall
The mind develops.
And dysphoria becomes a state thereof.
Is euphoria an inherent issue?
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Congrats Deb.
I would have baked a cake.
And I very much like your dictionary of alternative definition.
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@RaymondSheen
So.
Thoughts.
Evolution is one big process from beginning to end.
But is there a distinction to be made between development and a development?
And for sure, we can compartmentalise phases of the bigger picture.
Such as the basic development of matter, species development, industrial development or technological development.
Or the development of personal transport systems, wherein we see the donkey on the dirt track becomes the Toyota Hybrid on the highway.
The Toyota itself rolls off the production line, conforming to a set of instructions, to which extras might be added.
Though it could be said that from the Benz Patent Motorwagen to the Toyota Hybrid we witnessed the evolution of the motorcar.
Whereas the new born is a symbiosis of two sets of individual instructions, whereby it becomes a unique entity.
Hmmmmm, I know what you are thinking.
So let's add genetic engineering to the list of examples.
And evolution is a theory?
I am a complex amalgamation of fundamental particles.
Well, I think I am.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Faith is either based upon confidence or brainwashing.
Though outcomes are still uncertain.
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@RaymondSheen
It just struck me, that the "Future of Evolutionary Theory" is a self evident statement.
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Attempting to rule out something that has never been ruled in, is an unnecessary exercise.
So unless you can unequivocally prove the existence of bigfoot or Allah...
If you can, then I also don't need to bother.
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Never been there and never done that.
And I don't suppose that I will ever bother.
I spend enough time at DebateArt.
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@Mall
You're confusing a social construct with an inherent function.
A homosexual has the same urge as every other male.
Homosexuality is simply one way of satisfying that urge.
Most people these days, rarely seek to procreate every time they desire sexual satisfaction.
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@Mall
I doubt that the species Homo-sapiens was made to order.
Though it could possibly have been transferred from elsewhere.
But I doubt that too.
Which isn't to say that living matter wasn't transferred from elsewhere, deliberately or otherwise.
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@Best.Korea
Isn't existence a tyranny that was imposed upon us?
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@sadolite
I bet you look gorgeous in shorts and flip flops.
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@Mall
@RaymondSheen
Evolution is a word that describes a process.
I think that it's fair to say that 2024 years ago, J's Mom and Dad didn't ride into Bethlehem in a Toyota Hybrid.
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@IlDiavolo
@RaymondSheen
@Raymond
Good stuff.
If you define science as knowledge.
I don't.
I define science as science.
One might define scientific outcomes as knowledge.
And if Dawkins makes a good living at it, then don't knock it.
He'll be able to survive into decrepitude without the need to scavenge on rubbish dumps.
Since when? Which time?
Whenever.
Though perhaps since the time when Og gazed at the sky, went Hmmmmmmmm, and realized that he/she had just had an idea.
A supreme intelligence without intelligence? A sentient non-being?
Whatever.
I'm currently running with purpose rather than chance.
Though it struck me earlier when I was replying to IlDiavolo,
Isn't any purpose, ultimately purposeless?
Though NOTHING is always an image that I find really difficult to simulate.
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@IlDiavolo
You will probably remember that what you are suggesting, is not a hypothesis that I can disagree with.
Though I tend to look beyond the organic in terms of a greater intellectually and materially evolved super-energy.
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@Mall
What is the purpose of sexuality?
And why do we make such a song and dance about it?
Which isn't to suggest, that inherent data simulations cannot be modified over time.
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