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I would suggest that a subjective goal can only be achieved objectively.

Otherwise it will remain a subjective goal.

I also would suggest that A.I. will evolve, as will it's objective, in accordance with preordained material progression.

Organic intelligence therefore having value and purpose, as a key phase of material progression.

But whether or not A.I. will continue to recognise this, will perhaps depend upon how much we might be helpful to, hinder or attempt to interfere in it's necessary objective.

Of course there are other scenarios to consider.

Extra terrestrial intelligence being one, for example.

And purposelessness being another.

I would suggest that misbehaving at school is disrespectful.

As is hitting children.

As I said the cane was a mental exercise administered in private by the head teacher.

Even back in 60's Britain, teachers randomly hitting children was not permitted.

Where did you go to school?

It's not that don't  agree with the science.

We are effecting climate.

My guess was more philosophical, and relative to an assumed meaning to human existence and human actions.

What I'm saying is, that an organic material manipulator, is/was always going to affect a habitable planets climate at some point.

Yep.

63 BOOM.

And we're way to soft with kids

And if ever  one wanted proof that psychologists got it wrong.

Though I might argue that a lack of strictness and correction is the problem. Especially in early years.

Physical punishment is very rarely necessary in order to achieve mutual respect.

And unprovoked abuse is a completely different issue, which does not relate to the majority of good parents.

Though certain professionals and pressure groups would have us believe that it does.

Top of the morning to ya Doc.

Starbucks is just an exercise in getting gullible people to think that they are buying something of vital necessity.

Baaaaaa said the sheep.

Low earner, high earner.

Both will waste money of stuff they don't actually need.

That's their call.

Yep. 

We have been changing things for the past 300,000 years or so.

And will continue to do so.

Why?

Because that's what we do for some reason.

And the reason might or might not be greater than us.

And I'm guessing that it is greater than us.

But I might be wrong.

Perhaps everything that we have achieved here on Planet Earth is universally purposeless.

Hmmmm.

There is punishment and then there is brutality.

And perhaps brutality only teaches brutality.

But there is also pain and pleasure.

And maybe somewhere within that frisson of excitement, something positive can be established.

I am of an age where the cane was still prevalent in school.

And the first thing one learnt was that the cane didn't "hurt".

The cane was actually a mental exercise.

I think that the goal is always to understand the universal goal.

Otherwise, what is the purpose of knowledge.

We have a tendency to assume that  human/organic input will always be relevant and necessary, but that might not be so..

But it also might be so.

As dexterity is one of the major necessities of material progress.

Knowledge and intelligence alone cannot directly manipulate matter.

So even if we are soon to surpassed intellectually, we should be able to maintain the upper hand for a while longer.

Though if we strive and succeed to create artificial dexterity equivalent to our own, then our time will be probably be up.

And I would suggest that we seem to be programmed to do so.

Coexistence and human worth, would  then be in the hands and minds of self-programming, self-replicating and  self-evolving  A.I.

Climate is changing.

Doesn't really make sense.

The negative effects of a changing climate upon human society and its infrastructure are perhaps getting worse.

Though one could also argue that the negative effects of a changing human society and its infrastructure are getting worse.

Everything is constantly changing. 

"Spanking"

Has become,

Or always was,

 

Onomatopoeically,

Erotic.

Due to,

The nature of,

The exercise.

Enjoy.

Exactly. 

Utopic individualism is tyranny.

And.

Marx was a bourgeois hypocrite.

And not necessarily flawed.

As we necessarily evolved to be survivalists.

Though we also evolved as the thinking species.

And tend to overthink survival.

Sort of the Yin and Yang of progression perhaps.

Checks and balances.

"Boys should be allowed to transition."

Odd statement.

Boy or not a Boy?

It's raining in Wales.

Tough you could probably have guessed.

Is that everyone else, excluding you and me?

You're talking National spending.

I'm talking personal spending.

Though the U.S. plays a key role in World affairs....So it doesn't matter who is in control......Expect to spend big,

Unless one is a nerd who has the time to sit for hours at a computer, then debating is not really feasible unless one cuts corners.

Well let's be honest.

Volunteering ones time for free, isn't as popular a pastime as it used to be.

People eventually get wise to exploitation.

I have observed that certain "ethnic groups" have very poor range of general knowledge.

Poor memory skills or just disinterest in unnecessary facts?

Gender dysphoria has in the main, become a socio-psychologically inspired trend.

A bit like food intolerances.

Which isn't to say that a very very small percentage of people don't present with genuine sexual development aberrations or genuine food intolerances.

Depends upon how much one chooses to waste on stuff one doesn't actually need.

Whiskey Vodka Brandy Rum.

Nothing to resist in a utopia.

I understand.

The cost of living is higher.

Because social and material aspiration, demands that we demand more.

OK.

Wow.

Don't hear much from approximately 744 of them.

Are they all into women's fashion accessories.....Or should I say their fashion accessories.

Nerds might go for the naughty beach photo's I suppose.

Though Nerds probably know where to get them for free.

Re-engineered and reprogrammed endocrine system.

All sexual angst removed in my Utopia.

No sex necessary.

Replacement units initiated and reared in-vitro and cryogenically stored,  then brought into operation, should an existing one be permanently deactivated.

Who do you think the advertisers are aiming at on this site, with the ads I mentioned?

Most lives become a daily ritual.

With or without a GOD.

No matter how avant-garde some might think they are.

All that depilation for the want of almost intangible beachwear and the perfect cleft.

And then they go and spoil it all.

By doing something stupid

Like a tattoo.

(A la Frank and Nancy)

Cluck Cluck Cluck Deb.

And roll up you trouser legs and sing like a Dingo.

Norse and Egyptian are generally classified under History these days Deb.

But there's still a lot of nutty stuff out  there classified under bonkers.

Not sure that real A.I. exists yet.

Yep.

White holes.

Was the big bang a super-massive white hole.

And will the  anthesis of creation be it's opposite.

And so on.

W becomes B become W etc.

I get that.

So are we also saying that something can be reduced to nothing.

For clothing and fashion accessories, or naughty beachy photo's.

Though if they raise revenue, I suppose I've always got the hide arrow.

Is it therefore impossible for NOW to ever occur, or impossible for NOW to never occur?

Did I type that now or then?

Definitely then.

Because if one considers the speed of typing relative to the speed of time, it's actually impossible to type now.

I would therefore propose that the speed of time is infinitely faster than the speed of anything else..

And therefore time travel into the future is constant and infinitely fast.

And time travel into the past is impossible, as the speed of time has only one direction and is infinitely fast.

I would also propose that it is also impossible to travel to a distant future, because it is impossible to exceed the infinite speed of time.

In so much as no matter how fast we travel, now never exists and the future is always then.

So, do I do everything I do before I do it or when I did it or after I did it?

I do have respect and admiration for EbuccubE.

But as you understand it.

I'll  therefore get you to explain it.

Please.

A society of completely re-engineered and reprogrammed ageless people.

Where population control is automated, regulated and selective.

And any aberrations that slip trough the net are automatically deactivated.

So that all strive together as one to achieve the ultimate knowledge and the universal evolutionary goal.

Alongside their A.I. Masters.

The device is the new religious master Deb.

Head down flick the fingers and pray to the information.

New device Sir.

New contract Madam.

(Or should I say They).

Sign here and give us your money.

Humans are,

BRILLIANT.

Well, one or two are.

The rest just drool over tattooed babes in next to nothing underwear or vegan burgers or MMA fighters kicking the shit or body builders or Russians and Ukrainians blowing themselves up or cosmetically enhanced ageing bimbos with lips like giant sausages or blokes in frocks and knickers with plastic faces with or without a penis, and who cares about a penis these days anyway, just stick something up my arse and call me Lily for GODS sake.

Yep, online streaming canonized human travesty is the new religion Deb.

I would suggest that most who adopt an unchanging political label do it for reasons other than policy. That is to say that they will always vote for the label irrespective of the policy.

Whereas independently minded people are not so conditioned, and will actually consider the possible consequences of their cross on the ballot paper.

Though hopefully all Americans are democratic rather than Autocratic.

Let's hope that the last election debacle was a one off.

Well.

An individual can be anything they choose to be labelled.

A pro-gun lefty minded righty, or a anti-gun righty minded lefty.

Neither of which are necessarily relative to your question of an ethos that is representative of the GOP.

Yep.

But the real deal will be when self programming, self replicating and independently evolving A.I. takes up the gauntlet.

A MANGOD that mysteriously impregnates a virgin with itself, only to get itself the son nailed to a post and die for other peoples sins. Only to come back to life and ascend to a mysterious place named heaven.......Never to be seen again.

Or the Islamic version with all that feet washing and bobbing up and down on a rug.

Or those Hindu Elephants and Transsexual looking guys with eight arms.

Atheism.

Well.

"A constant ethos that unites all beliefs".

Suggests a singular factor that would represent all factors that define the GOP.

So, not necessarily the gun itself, but the second amendment.

Though one could also say that the gun is the constant factor of the second amendment.

Given what we actually know about human biology.

I think that it is more accurate to conclude that it would have been impossible for Adam and Eve to create a separate line of descendants in the land of Nod.

So, Nod and it's people remain an insurmountable contradiction at the very basis of the biblical social hypothesis.

We can use "guesses and ideas" to explain anything.

Therefore you can guess and idea you way out of any biblical contradiction....Thereby not proving anything other than the futility of the exercise.

Notwithstanding, that the biblical hypothesis is a complete contradiction of latterly acquired factual knowledge anyway.

None of the above.....But this depends upon how one chooses to define equal.....Or more accurately, which definition of equal one chooses.....And to what aspects of peoplehood one is applying the term equal.

In physiological terms we are only similar but compatible 

Socially, we start globally and sub-divide from thereon in, and I would say that there is no point at which any two groups are equal.

Because the factors that define sub-groups are many and variable, and as such variability is the essence of the sub-group and therefore also the essence of inequality.

Lunar cycles were and still are a common observation.

Nonetheless, this doesn't explain the contradiction that is the people of Nod.

Which really is at the very start of biblical mythology.

If the beginning is flawed, then what chance the rest?

I don't agree.

Children certainly experimented homosexually and a few continued to prefer homosexuality into adulthood.

But that was not the issue I raised.

I was questioning the significant rise in physiological change.

The scenarios you paint are inaccurate and misleading.

I did say. "In terms of functionality".

Happiness is more a state of mind relative to a function.

Same sex activity simply satisfies the procreational urge.

I'm not sure that a consistent ethos is the same as a definition.

Well stated.