zedvictor4

I'm not sure that anyone will win.

Throughout my whole childhood and teenage years I never knew or heard of any transgender children.

Nor I did I ever know or hear of any child committing suicide.

Nor did I ever hear the words dysphoria or transgender.

And bullying did occur but was dealt with.

Though bullying meant something different to having an opposing point of view with regard to penis vagina hang-ups.

Why was this?

What is different now?  In so much as, why have people changed physiologically.

Is it simply species evolution, relative to everything that influences it.

I suppose in that sense one could say it is a natural phenomena.

If one considers that everything that occurs within a Universe cannot be anything other than natural.

Hmmmmm.

"Technically"

In terms of functionality,

Everything,

Is heterosexually based.

LGBTetc,

Is just a thought club.

Relative to,

Overthink,

Relative to,

Penis Vagina,

Hang-ups.

 

I agree.

Nope.

People didn't live hundreds of solar cycles.

But hundreds of lunar cycles.

So what we regard as 50 today would have been approximately 650 back then.

The word and term "year" is relatively modern, and comes from the Greek "Hora", meaning season.

And for sure, we don't know what Adam and Eve were doing because the sequel wasn't written.

OK. So the story of Adam and Eve is just a creation hypothesis and they weren't real people.

But the hypothesis still contradicts itself in the way that I stated.

Though if you you're prepared to believe the hypothesis then you have to accept the contradiction.

Well.

We are animals, differentiated by specialism.

In our case, intellectual ability.

Therefore survival although an inbuilt instinct, can be consciously modified.

So we have over time consciously developed and maintained a moral code relative to our species which improves our chances of survival. So in a stable social environment we are also able to empathise and care.

Though this moral code is far from absolute, and can be readily modified. We will only sustain the frail or appease our opponents to the point at which our own security or collective security is put in jeopardy.

It then becomes a case of survival of the fittest.

True.

A lot to think about.

I would suggest that we are united as a species, but factionalised by past events and inherited data. So in the event of a hypothetical global catastrophe we would unite in a common aim but nonetheless from multiple standpoints.

This I think, is the status quo that cannot be improved upon, unless there is a total global agreement to re-engineer and/or re-programme the human species.

And I can't see this happening, even post-catastrophe.

Quite simply, if you put two people in a room they will disagree about something. And similarly if you put two people in a room, one will inevitably dominate the other.

That is why I always suggest that the only way forwards in respect of material evolution is A.I. This is assuming that material evolution is the universal objective, wherein species unity is not a necessary objective.

Which is not to say that technological development to a greater extent does not rely upon species cooperation. But nonetheless, cooperation rather than unity.

It would be more logical for the Russian leaders to stop being aggressive arses with an insecurity complex.

But such is the Russian spirit I suppose.

And any sort of bomb kills people.

I distinctly remember the Americans bombing a wedding party in Afghanistan not so long ago.

But hey.

8 Billion minus a few peasants.

And Covid killed 7 million

Whereas armed conflict only claims 100,000 per annum approx.

Therefore cluster bombs are safer than viruses.

Logic is BRILLIANT.

Beauty and sadness just like penis/vagina hang-ups, are concepts relative to overthink.

Though to be fair, overthink is the human specialism.

Let's keep it inclusive and add an H for heterosexual.

And perhaps a W for wanker.

Otherwise one might be wrongly referred to as heterophobic or masterbaterophobic.

And is dildophibic a separate category?

Penis Vagina hang-ups....What's next?

Perhaps we could sub-categorise with all the various role play stuff.

Well.

Notwithstanding that most popular religions are the antithesis of materialism. (Materialism as described)

A materialist would say that religion, as in a ritual devotion to a super-natural deity is unnecessary.

Therefore human society would function without such religions, just as human society functions with such religions.

So, would society be less factional without religion?

Probably not.

I would suggest that the main driving force of factionalism and conflict is still Nationalism.

Though it must be said that nationalism is still compounded by religion in certain societies.

I would further suggest that previously, religion was the foundation of intellectual development, and so in that context religion was necessary.

Whereas today and in the future, intellectual and technological development will be more dependant upon science.

As I see things, technology and global technological communication is the new global materialistic religion and social re-educator.

Nonetheless, species evolution is much slower than material and technological evolution, so whilst old religious data still remains, it will no doubt continue to be transferred.

Though there is also A.I. to consider when discussing the future.

Will A.I. rely upon logic or emotion?

Maybe it's in the water.

But for sure, penis vagina hang-ups have been around ever since the first penis vaginas walked the Earth

Look at the problems Adam and Eve had....LOL

Snakes and Apples. FFS

And so, we now have synthetic hormones and surgical opportunity.

Sexual fantasy a go go.

Still 8 billion and counting though.

And what does anything matter?

Who knows?

True.

But I would suggest that avoiding negative confrontation and preserving relationships is done for the benefit of the self, within the context of the collective and the security the collective provides.

So where does any concept come from?

As I stated, morality is a derivation of the survival instinct.

Kill your enemy, protect your friends.

Hence morality is a variable and selective thought process, which we are taught how to utilise.

Fast forwards 300,000 years and things are still basically the same.

True.

But YFL seems to prefer the idea of incest and interbreeding.

So. 

Don't remember the bible mentioning another family in Nod.

The contradiction is that Adam and Eve were 1 and 2, Cain and Abel 3 and 4.

When there were clearly others elsewhere who produced offspring with Cain.

So who did Adam procreate with in Nod?

Unfortunately there is no known GOD to make such decisions.

Just humans making decisions in the name of a make believe God.

Or sometimes, just humans making decisions.

Nope.....Just humans making decisions.

Yep. Certainly no need for late term abortion.

Well, sex is an urge to not be resisted.

So thinking man designed contraception.

But then there are those that don't think.

And so thinking man developed abortion.

Solutions to situations.

Analgesics for example.

Primarily depends upon which team one supports.

And then, Trump or DeSantis would depend upon how gormless one looks in a red cap.

Silly to buy a red cap and then vote DeSantis.

Biden........Toooooo Old.

It really does seem that wherever one looks, there's no such thing as a good politician.

Well, there probably is.......But would people vote for them?

Pain is simply,

A consequence of,

Being.

Best way then,

Is to not,

Procreate.

Abortion is,

A secondary strategy,

Relative to,

Desire.

Solutions to problems.

Works fine with Cats and Dogs.

And anything else we care to kill.

We only think we're special.

Well.....Not everyone thinks that everyone is special.

Ethics are often a tad contradictory.

If Cain was Number 3.

Who did he procreate with when he was banished to Nod.

Morality is a label we apply to acquired behaviour.

Acquired behaviour relative to survival.

(Though morality tends to be an add on to a conceptual fantasy.)

And hypothetical paradises abound.

In a hypothetical situation, everything is hypothetically possible and permissible.

And I would suggest, that hypothetically killing people is a commonplace occurrence.

Though the consequences of putting thoughts into practice is often deterrent enough.

Though we know all to well that consequences are not a strong enough deterrent for everyone.

And neither is "morality" a deterrent for everyone.

And of course, survival requires a raft of solutions.

Some seemingly less moral than others.

Though sometimes we are content with morally justifying killing in the name of survival.

So a simple conclusion would be.......Moral is, as moral chooses.

What is a reasonable guilt?

Sort of a guilt that is a tad nicer than an unreasonable guilt I suppose.

So are you saying that it's OK for one to be guilty, as long as it is deemed  reasonable and doesn't stray into the realms of the unreasonable.

How do you find the defendant.

Reasonably guilty.

Case dismissed.

I would suggest that in most societies the acquisition of what might variously be regarded as good and bad comes from a variety of sources, and begins pre-school.

North Korea perhaps being a rare example of State enforced conformity.

Education generally provides a narrowing  structure of knowledge transfer, whereby the student hopefully acquires some sort of specialism by the time they leave full time education.

So even though you might not need to utilise a lot of what you were once taught, the "useless" stuff probably wasn't as useless as you think it was.

It's all a tad futile.

Because darker toned people are darker than lighter toned people.

It's all to do with transferred mis-information relative to perceivable differences and instinctive behaviour.

A mental trap that all tones fall into.

The answer to the problem would be global re-education.

Though I think that evolution will be quicker.

Do you think that A.I. should all be sort of mid-grey?

Who says the Judge is righteous?

The Judge I suppose.

Ah well.

Things will sort themselves out.

I always find it amusing that written references to Diogenes usually say.

Diogenes, sometimes pronounced Diogenes.

What say you Sir.Lancelot?

Sometimes pronounced Sir.Lancelot.

From ZedVictor4

Sometimes pronounced ZedVictor4.

Not sure that Diogenes or Diogenes was anything more than a lazy debauched Greek son of a banker.

As for thinking, most people do it for free.

Now, Zeno he was Stoic.

Sometimes pronounced Zeno.

And as for old So Crates.

All so called "communist" states are just versions of hierarchical dictatorships.

As are all democracies.

Though some states are more brutal and oppressive than others.

Communism was a fanciful idea of the bourgeoisie.....Which is a contradiction in itself.

And many people accept that the bible is pure fact.

So from our respective deductions we have shown that a lot of people are a tad stupid at times.

Pasta, meat and cheese.

Hope you balanced that with something veggie and/or something fruity.

Gotta keep the gut running smooth.

In my experience.

In the end people succumb to death quite freely.

But for sure, in the run up to death the thought of non-existence might be difficult to deal with.

And I would suggest that most folk instinctively know that there is no continuation of self awareness.

Which is not to say that there is definitely no residual capability.

It is stated that DNA can last for 6.8 million years.

Well, If we were able to analyse your upbringing thoroughly, what are the chances that your parents never ever utilised a product of science?

Did you live in a cave, or did you have a house with electricity.

Were you always naked, or did you wear clothes that probably contained synthetic fabrics.

Did you never take medicines.

Did you never wash or clean your teeth.

Did you never use a vehicle.

Did you never use any product derived from refined oil.

Did you never eat any processed food items.

Etc.

Etc.

Systematic study and experimentation will inevitably get things wrong as well as right.

That's the essence of systematic study and experimentation.

Knowledge can be any old stuff.

The bible for instance.

Nope, you just made that up.

You use the internet, because scientists worked it out for you.

Nope that isn't science at all.

Science is the systematic study of the natural environment and it's processes, through observation and experiment.

Why do you utilise the internet when all you need to do is pray and think of a GOD?

Death is easy.

Dying is the difficult bit.

Thing is.

Cain buggered off to Nod and fathered a line of descendants.

Who was the Mother?

Don't think you quite understand what science actually is, or what it sets out to achieve, or the processes involved.

It would be pretty amazing if scientists got everything right, every time.

Oh.

By the way.

I wanted to do some research into gene mapping.

Could you tell me where to find it in the Bible please.

Twit Twoo.

Said the wise old Owl.

I agree.

I firmly agree.

People choose to be offended, often deliberately so.

Such is data transfer, assessment and intellectual output......Whereby gain is sought by playing the victim card.

Other better options are always available, such as ignorance or reciprocal criticism.

I personally am not at all bothered what people say to me.

I am of the opinion that offence is always created by the recipient and reacted upon by the over-sensitive, often deliberately so.

Each to their own opinion though.

Nonetheless I think that enforcing rules without a complaint being lodged is a tad dictatorial....So I hope that  this won't be the case.

NB. I did once flag up a certain Poly-theists remarks to me, but I regarded that as an exceptional circumstance.

I was being semi-serious.

Most reasonable people recognise injustice, but very few have the time or resources to do  much about it.  

So I suppose we should be grateful for those that do.

Though TERFS  is a tad extreme acronym, and such causes should perhaps be filed under social injustice, women's section.

I would suggest that the general public and moderate politicians don't really appreciate over-radical.

And I think that J.K. is quite inclusive in her common-sense ideology.

TERFS are probably a handful of people with nothing better to do.

I'm too busy to think about them.

But for fun.

Let's all think up a radical group and create an acronym.

Cake Lovers Ostracising Takeaway Sandwiches.

Good morning Stephen.

And then you died.

And

Nothing.

Perhaps there were a few seconds of vivid memory.

As systems shut down for good.

But if you can't handle that yet.

Then you can always dream of  heaven.

Any heaven will do.

Make up your own.

Or choose one of the more popular Middle Eastern models.

All those virgins sound fun.

But I often wonder where all the virgins come from.

Maybe they are virtual virgins.

All a part of the big simulation.

Generational data transfer is such that people are in the main conditioned theists, rather than theists by choice.

Educated in other words.

Clever people re-evaluate and reject theistic non-sense.

Educated does not necessarily mean clever.