Instigator / Pro
1500
rating
2
debates
50.0%
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Topic
#5335

Every trans woman is a woman.

Status
Debating

Waiting for the next argument from the instigator.

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Parameters
Publication date
Last updated date
Type
Standard
Number of rounds
5
Time for argument
Two weeks
Max argument characters
20,000
Voting period
Six months
Point system
Multiple criterions
Voting system
Open
Contender / Con
1500
rating
0
debates
0.0%
won
Description

PRO claim: "Every trans woman is a woman."
CON's claim: "No trans woman is a woman" or "Some trans women are not women."

Stipulations:
1. PRO claim: "Every trans woman is a woman."
2. CON's claim: "No trans woman is a woman" or "Some trans women are not women."
3. The negation of "Every trans woman is a woman" is "No trans woman is a woman" or "Some trans women are not women."
4. Both CON and PRO have a burden of prove their assertions.
5. Every person who identifies as a woman is a person who is female, male, or intersex.
6. Every person who is female, male, or intersex is a person who can be mistaken a man or woman in a possible world.
7. Every person who can be mistaken a man or woman in a possible world is a person who's gender is determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex.
8. Every person who's gender is determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex is person who's gender ought be determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex that minimizes harm.
9. Every a person who's gender is determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex is a person who can be mistaken a man in a possible world.
10. Every person who can be mistaken a man in a possible world is a woman.
11. Every person who's gender ought be determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex that minimizes harm is a person who's gender is determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex.
12. Every trans woman is a person who identifies as a woman.

Conduct:
1. If either PRO or CON does not give a chain of reasoning that establish "Every trans woman is a woman" or the negation in Round 1, then the person who has not given the chain of reasoning forfeits.
2. Each proposition must have a unique identifier. If there is no unique identifier of each proposition in Round 2, then whoever did not give unique identifiers forfeits.
* Example: PROP.1. --- Every human is a living being.
3. A rebuttal must either try to establish why an argument is not valid, why the premises are not true, or why the argument is not sound.

Round 1
Pro
#1
All AXIOMS are stipulations that were established in the long description.

Argument:

AXIOM.1. --- Every person who identifies as a woman is a person who is female, male, or intersex.

AXIOM.2. --- Every person who is female, male, or intersex is a person who can be mistaken a man or woman in a possible world.

AXIOM.1., AXIOM.2.
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CON.1. --- Every person who identifies as a woman is a person who can be mistaken a man or woman in a possible world.

AXIOM.3. --- Every person who can be mistaken a man or woman in a possible world is a person who's gender is determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex.

CON.1., AXIOM.3.
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COROLLARY.1. --- Every person who identifies as a woman is a person who's gender is determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex.

AXIOM.4. --- Every person who's gender is determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex is person who's gender ought be determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex that minimizes harm.

COROLLARY.1., AXIOM.4.
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SUBCOROLLARY.1. --- Every person who identifies as a woman is person who's gender ought be determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex that minimizes harm.

CONJECT.1. --- Every person who's gender ought be determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex that minimizes harm is a person who's gender is determined by identifying as a woman.(1)(2)(3)(4)

SUBCOROLLARY.1., CONJECT.1.
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SUBCOROLLARY.2. --- Every person who identifies as a woman is a person who's gender is determined by identifying as a woman.

AXIOM.5. --- Every a person who's gender is determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex is a person who can be mistaken a man in a possible world.

AXIOM.6. --- Every person who can be mistaken a non-woman (exp. man) in a possible world is a woman.

AXIOM.5., AXIOM.6.
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CON.2. --- Every person who's gender is determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex is a woman.

AXIOM.7. --- Every person who's gender ought be determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex that minimizes harm is a person who's gender is determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex.

CON.2., AXIOM.7.
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COROLLARY.2. --- Every person who's gender ought be determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex that minimizes harm is a woman.

CONJECT.2. --- Every person who's gender is determined by identifying as a woman is a person who's gender ought be determined by a collection of attitudes, feelings, and behaviors that a given culture associates with the female biological sex that minimizes harm.(1)(2)(3)(4)

CONJECT.2., COROLLARY.2.
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SUBCOROLLARY.3. --- Every person who's gender is determined by identifying as a woman is a woman.

SUBCOROLLARY.2., SUBCOROLLARY.3.
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SUBCOROLLARY.4. --- Every person who identifies as a woman is a woman.

AXIOM.8. --- Every trans woman is a person who identifies as a woman.

AXIOM.8., SUBCOROLLARY.4.
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SUBCOROLLARY.4. --- Every trans woman is a woman.

Sources:

Guidelines for psychological practice with transgender and gender nonconforming people. (2015). American Psychologist, 70(9), 832–864. https://doi.org/10.1037/a0039906
In addition, TGNC people who receive social support about their gender identity and gender expression have improved outcomes and quality of life
Lin, Y., Xie, H., Huang, Z., Zhang, Q., Wilson, A., Hou, J., Zhao, X., Wang, Y., Pan, B., Liu, Y., Han, M., & Chen, R. (2021). The mental health of transgender and gender non-conforming people in China: a systematic review. The Lancet Public Health, 6(12), e954–e969. https://doi.org/10.1016/s2468-2667(21)00236-x

Transgender and gender non-conforming (TGNC) individuals are at a high risk of adverse mental health outcomes due to minority stress—the stress faced by individuals categorised as stigmatised social minority groups.
Tebbe, E. A., & Budge, S. L. (2022). Factors that drive mental health disparities and promote well-being in transgender and nonbinary people. Nature Reviews Psychology, 1(12), 694–707. https://doi.org/10.1038/s44159-022-00109-0

Family support can also be vital for the mental health of TNB people, particularly for youths. When present, family support is associated with lower levels of self-harm, psychological distress, and depression and anxiety symptoms, and higher levels of resilience, self-esteem and life satisfaction among youths and young adults142,143,144,145. Indeed, family support has unique effects on mental health and well-being outcomes compared to other forms of support
The What We Know Project. (2021, August 11). What does the scholarly research say about the effect of gender transition on transgender well-being? | What We Know. What We Know. https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/

Factors that are predictive of success in the treatment of gender dysphoria include adequate preparation and mental health support prior to treatment, proper follow-up care from knowledgeable providers, consistent family and social support, and high-quality surgical outcomes.

Con
#2
Forfeited
Round 2
Pro
#3
amazin
Con
#4
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