Battlebots Mafia DP3

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@WyIted
so it doesn't violate any rules for me to help eliminate them, nor is it an issue as far as playing to my wincon is concerned because I think the move marginally improves our chances.

I agree, you aren't breaking the rules minus your bs early PM cryptography. Town negotiating with you is and I am too scared to ask Austin to clarify as he may modkill for the very negotiation discussions that already took place.
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@ijb1
I may well be AFK when you're on.

Answer all these:

  1. What did you do NP1, what did you NP2?
  2. Is your role is unlimited or 1x etc
  3. What is your take on the situation rn, what reads do you have?
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@RationalMadman
Please allow me to give you a fatal dose of gaslighting: lynching  Wylted requires a majority of players, therefore my power is limited to taking to him.  ☠️☠️☠️ 

I’ll give you credit for having two votes, but that’s still not enough to maintain a vote on everyone who doesn’t immediately lynch Wylted. Heck, your vote isn’t even on him to push for a lynch.
Come to think of it, we’ve all played games where no lynch happens due to the time it takes combined with inactivity levels. This makes your vote not being on Wylted while making a big deal about others, kinda odd.



As for modkill, I’ve  never even heard of a game where mods would modkill  for talking to other players in game. If it even was a risk, Wylted would have been modkilled awhile ago. If going about it the way you think it would work, the mod would have to swoop in and kill everyone who doesn’t have their lynch vote on Wylted; thereby ending the game. Since killing Wylted has already been passed on, this would have already happened.

You’re also forgetting a three letter word. B. U. S.. to bus is a common tactic in this game, which is effectively what Wylted is claiming to offer. Which as someone obsessed with optimal play over all else (to include actual fun), is weird that you would not even contemplate his offer.

You’re way to smart for this, so please share your actual reason for being opposed to anyone so much as talking to Wylted?
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I’ve talked to an enemy player here (Wylted). Even trying to get information

Please modkill Wylted and I if that’s a problem, and let the game continue without this distraction.
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I mean if you get modkilled for wanting information then a bunch of other people would die to I’m pretty sure, because they all asked him stuff. So I don’t think it will happen.
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@Barney
I shared 2 actual reasons.
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As of now, no one is being modkilled. Dunno why y'all are speculating about it.
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@AustinL0926
you know why. You made the rule.
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@Barney
 Which as someone obsessed with optimal play over all else (to include actual fun), is weird that you would not even contemplate his offer.

I don't accept it as optimal to trust my enemy who is outnumbered to side with the majority instead of the minority that can help him temporarily, whereas we can't help him either long or short term. At all.

Use your head.

If he was narrowminded, ready to side with Town for some illusion of 'optimal' he'd have already outed it and thrown himself at our mercy which he's already at anyway.
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@Barney
You're falling for a blatant con/scam he's saying anything he can to survive.
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@Barney
Wylted's perspective is simple:

  1. He is in the 2 not the 1 and it's about to be 1v1 instead and he is hoping it stays 2v1 and Town dies
  2. He is in the 1 not the 2 and wants us to help it be 1v1.
If he had another approach he'd already have outed the scum.

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@Barney
if it's option 2, why hasn't he outed it already then? He has nothing to gian or lose either way then.
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i'm going offline now ttyl all
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RM is spamming the day phase. Barney you dont even have to waste your time and energy responding to him. No one takes this discussion seriously and its gonna clog up the day phase. Right now we should be waiting on wylted to make a decision and hopefully not clog up the day phase even worse so the inactives will have even more to catch up on for no reason.
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Headed to bed, ball's in your court man
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@RationalMadman
you know why. You made the rule.
I mean, if you see a potential violation of the rule, feel free to PM it to me. I'm just genuinely confused why you would think that anything in this thread so far (barring Wylted's crytography, which I warned him for) is modkillable for.
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I hate to do this because he has been playing so well, but the fact you guys didn't catch on when he went to confirm his role against a factional kill and then instead of confirming it again against the factional kill and actually confirming his role, he instead wants to prove his role against bullet proof to again by another DP. The final scum on their team is Best.Korea.
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I think WyIted is just trolling us, but we have to wait anyway for jailkeeper to post, so I dont mind waiting to lynch.
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If he was town he wouldn't think I was trolling he would know for a fact I was.

VTL Best.Korea

It's all WIFOM but I gave you guys the honest truth so if this ever happens in future games, remember that I am a person of my word so we can make more risky plays together.
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@WyIted
If he was town he wouldn't think I was trolling he would know for a fact I was.
Actually, I think you are trolling and just going by the "I will tell them what they wanna hear", so we will see if that works for you or not.
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@WyIted
Now, I cant figure out if you are trying to lynch me to protect GP from vig shot, or are you just trying to save yourself.

But since you are certain scum, you must know that logically, certain scum gets lynched first, and no one really wants to risk and lynch someone else.

There is simply no way town will lynch me instead of certain scum who already lied once about being day cop just to lynch town player.

Town loses nothing by lynching you, but lynching me is a risk especially with there being a chance of me confirming my role next dp.

If I fail to confirm my role, then I guess I will be a lynch target, but it doesnt matter as we took out 2 scums before that.

And if I do confirm my role, then the remaining scums become more obvious.
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Also, even if my vig shot fails, cop can check if I am guilty or innocent, unless he gets role blocked again.

The only thing keeping WyIted alive is that we didnt hear from jailkeeper, who seems to be inactive.

After that, just lynch WyIted and we will have more reads in dp4.
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I believe wylted. Here’s why.

1st of all my top two picks for whiteflames team mate were greyparrot or beat.Korea. When I said I wouldn’t believe him if it was outside of those two picks it’s because I know the final mafia related to wylted based on POE has to be Joebob or ijb. I still think wylted had ijb counter claim white flame when he got guiltied to “town confirm” his partner when it was clear white flame was already damned. I can’t completely discount him as town yet because we still can’t explain how RM was roleblocked, though my theory is that there is another roleblocker and that it works the exact same way as white flames, where the person you roleblocked the previous night is the only person you can kill the next phase. 

Either way this problem can wait as we also need to still confirm joebob whose role has been sketchy since he claimed it based on limited roles existing in the game for him to actual motivate.

As far as whiteflames partner though the only two claims that almost directly counter each other is greyparrots and BKs. Again it’s not the multiple protection/defensive role thing I don’t buy just how many of the claims seem to counter each other. Jailkeeper when we have a known roleblocker? Bleeder with a 1x bulletproof? 1x bulletproof is literally the same thing as a bleeder. One of these has to fake. 

The one thing greyparrot has going for him is that I recieved a video link for black dragon vs ribbot on accident from the mod. The only excuse I could give that GP could be scum from that was that if it was a mod given fake claim, because when I watched the video for black dragon vs ribbot, my first thought was “holy shit black dragon just won’t die” after it takes a nearly 4 minute beating from ribbot.

In the video BK provides it’s only two minutes long and it’s basically duck just taking a massive beating. The justification for it being bulletproof makes sense since it wins the match but only on the technicality because Cobalt gets stuck on the floor. Duck literally does absolutely nothing offensive and wins the fight by a fluke. I think this was the fake claim but it was for bulletproof only. BKs mistake was claiming to also be a vigilante, and he probably did this because he was expecting a role like a tracker or watcher to find him on a result at some point. But in the video he provided it just doesn’t make sense since duck has 0 offense.

The icing on the cake is that the mod got back to me and basically said that he wouldn’t have provided a video with the fake claim given. So that leaves me with 0 reason for the mod to have accidentally copied and pasted that video to me, my theory was he could have accidentally posted it from giving GP a fake claim but his response proves that’s not the case. And greyparrot is lazy so I just don’t see him finding out such an amazing claim that fits his video so perfectly as a fake claim. I think his is legit and bleeder just makes more sense than straight up 1x bulletproof.

Either way the other partner had to have been one of greyparrot or BK and all that against BK plus wylted targeting his shield last night (convienent to pass that off as a bulletproof) i think wylted is actually being honest here. I just can’t explain why I recieved greyparrots video unless it was a legit mod mistake since there was no videos to go with fake claims and it’s an either or for me so BK pretty has to be scum here. Him convienently not being able to prove his role doesn’t help either, and wylteds team factional bulletproof protecting his night kill, it makes so much sense. Even if it was successful we would have no explanation for the lack of the mafias night kill.


Pretty obvious that it’s BK. 

We lynch BK today. Tomorrow wylted. Next day ijb or joebob, ( we will have much more info at this time and he’ll have had plenty of time to have proven his role). Ez POE
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We lynch BK today.
The lynch order is 1.  confirmed scum, then 2. whatever reads you think you have.

Thats how lynch order logically works for anyone who is town.

If you want to act scummy and ignore lynch order which is most beneficial to town just so that you could prove your reads incorrect as soon as possible, sure go for it.

I might even encourage you to do so, because without me, you cannot even confirm motivator next dp, so yeah if town wants to chase these witch hunts all the time, it should get punished for it every time until it learns.

However, if you are scum, good job playing to your win condition.
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Gonna ignore BK for now he is pretty much confirmed scum in my eyes. Probably RM too since he’s gonna throw a hissy fit and I don’t wanna waste time with it.

For now VTL ijb 

He needs to say who he blocked today and why before we move on to lynching BK
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@Lunatic
I believe wylted.
You believe scum who bases his entire gameplay on endless lies, and has already lied to lynch town player?

And he didnt even provide reason for me being scum, and really, neither did you.

He just said I was scum, and you believed it not based on any valid reason, but just because thats what you wanted to hear.

Honestly, if WyIted can play you this easily, then maybe his powers are greater than I thought.

I am really impressed that he made town player fall for same thing twice, assuming you are a town player of course.
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Town is right now at

5 - 3

Here is WyIted's plan to make scum team win:

1. Lynch BK

So

Town is at 

3 - 3 with scum, so scum can literally lynch town player instantly if they unite.

Yeah, lynch me and you lose this for sure. I dont care, I am just making sure you are making informed decision so that after you lose, you have no one to blame but yourself for obviously having personal issues with me and searching for dumb excuses to lynch me every game even if you lose the game as a result.

If your personal issues affect your readings so much that all you do is "find excuses to lynch BK" even ignoring logical lynch order just to lynch BK, then sure, play that way and enjoy losing games.
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You were informed, so if you think lynching me is better than lynching confirmed scum, go for it.
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For anyone questioning why we’re lynching Korea over wylted here’s why:

1. Taking out an entire mafia team means the other mafia team can only target us every other night. We are essentially taking out an entire night kill. Whiteflames partner is more important to die for this reason.

2. Bk wasted his vig shot on wylted. Tracker results confirm this and he should have known it would be pointless since the mafia have a factional bulletproof. He thought he would get away with it since RM commanded him to do it last night misguidenly.

3. There are two 1x bulletproofs in the game. A bleeder is essentially the same thing as a 1x bulletproof, and greyparrots role makes far more sense with the role. I was also accidentally given greyparrots video and have come out saying that since early day phase 1 before BK even claimed this role. Also there is no logical explanation for duck to be a vigilante. The video he attached, duck got his @ss beat and won based on a fluke when cobalts tires get stuck. Otherwise duck was 100% a victim with 0 offense and did 0 damage to cobalt. Why would duck be a vigilante? Greyparrots role makes 1000% more sense as bleeder and survives twice as long against ribbot. I saw the video before greyparrot even claimed it and thought “holy crap that’s a durable friggin robot”. 

4. Also BK convienently couldn’t kill NP1 I believe this is to justify the lack of action in proving his role. Either way we can’t substantiate where the mafia kill went if it wasn’t BK. Mafia would have been dumb to target RM last night since it was telegraphed that I should be protecting him. So where is this other kill going?

5. His response to any pressure has been OMGUS to Barney and now to me, behaviorally he’s been hoping just to stick close to whatever RM does in hopes that he could skate through the game. Notice I’ve made all these points already and he hasn’t actually responded to one of them. 
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For anyone questioning why we’re lynching Korea over wylted here’s why:

1. Taking out an entire mafia team means the other mafia team can only target us every other night. We are essentially taking out an entire night kill. Whiteflames partner is more important to die for this reason.

2. Bk wasted his vig shot on wylted. Tracker results confirm this and he should have known it would be pointless since the mafia have a factional bulletproof. He thought he would get away with it since RM commanded him to do it last night misguidenly.

3. There are two 1x bulletproofs in the game. A bleeder is essentially the same thing as a 1x bulletproof, and greyparrots role makes far more sense with the role. I was also accidentally given greyparrots video and have come out saying that since early day phase 1 before BK even claimed this role. Also there is no logical explanation for duck to be a vigilante. The video he attached, duck got his @ss beat and won based on a fluke when cobalts tires get stuck. Otherwise duck was 100% a victim with 0 offense and did 0 damage to cobalt. Why would duck be a vigilante? Greyparrots role makes 1000% more sense as bleeder and survives twice as long against ribbot. I saw the video before greyparrot even claimed it and thought “holy crap that’s a durable friggin robot”. 

4. Also BK convienently couldn’t kill NP1 I believe this is to justify the lack of action in proving his role. Either way we can’t substantiate where the mafia kill went if it wasn’t BK. Mafia would have been dumb to target RM last night since it was telegraphed that I should be protecting him. So where is this other kill going?

5. His response to any pressure has been OMGUS to Barney and now to me, behaviorally he’s been hoping just to stick close to whatever RM does in hopes that he could skate through the game. Notice I’ve made all these points already and he hasn’t actually responded to one of them.