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@Athias
You're applying circular reasoning. Your premise is the same as your conclusion.
Well stated.
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@Sum1hugme
If I can know for certainty that I think, then that necessarily means that I am thinking in time, since I am having the thought now. The act of thinking necessarily implies an external world where time exists within which I may have a thought. Therefore, I can know with the same certainty that I think, that there is an external world to my thought that at least has time.
Time is not necessarily "external".
Consider the possibility that there are multiple "layers" of "thinking".
Time might merely be the "top" "layer".
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I would argue that Fauxlaw should be higher on the board by his raw abilities in rhetoric, and Athias should be on it for his deductive prowess, but neither are. What do you guys think about this?
Perhaps there could be more than one leaderboard.
Maybe one that only includes the last 90 days and one for "all time".
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@Mandrakel
1) How do you have your hair cut? (Leviticus 19:27 You shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard.)2) How well done do you enjoy your steak? (Leviticus 19:26 Do not eat any meat with the blood still in it)3) Would you or do you have any tattoos on your body? (Leviticus 19:28 Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord)4) Do you condone homosexuality? (Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination)5) Do you often pick cherries?
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@Varrack
I'd like to be able to turn some notifications off. I can change whether I get email notifications, but not in-site notifications.Whenever I post a forum topic and some responds to it while mentioning me, I get 2 notifications. I only need 1, but I realized I couldn't actually turn off either of them when I went into settings.
Thanks for mentioning this.
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@zedvictor4
If we were a truly caring society, then what point money anyway?If we were truly caring we would realise that money is a tool of human hierarchy and selfishness.Universal Basic Income......But don't take a slice of my pie, as Mr Waters wrote.When push comes to shove....Who actually cares about you, and who do you actually care about, when it impacts upon your pockets?And being seen to be caring or being paid to be caring......And actually being caring......Are two separate things entirely.Money....... Survival of the fittest without the big stick I suppose.....Not that that can be guaranteed.
TRIBALISM = MORALITY
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@secularmerlin
Try helping some homeless people (who might also have a "right to life") to rise out of the abject poverty that leaves them in a position of needing your charity to survive before you start giving out medical advice.
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@fauxlaw
Try helping some homeless people (who might also have a "right to life") before you start giving out medical advice.
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@fauxlaw
Have you ever considered that perhaps "anti-reproductive" adaptations might be more of a "safety-mechanism" rather than a "bug-in-the-system"?
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@zedvictor4
Does the same apply to the anomalies of the transsexual?
There is significant overlap between physiological anomaly and gender expression.
What I'm wondering is why the government (or anyone else) needs to know what I look like naked.
Doesn't this qualify for medical privacy provisions?
Why does anyone need to know this?
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@Lemming
My conscience is a mental knee jerking to stimuli, based upon my aesthetic principles and past.
This assessment likely applies to every individual conscience.
You seem to at least tacitly accept "social norms" and a rough "moral code" if only for purely practical reasons.
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@secularmerlin
does having emotions make you irrationalNo. Humans are neither rational nor irrational they are human and so capable of both. Emotions ARE NOT rational however. In fact they are anethema.You seem to want only black and white answers even though that leads to the black and white fallacy.Humans are no COMPLETELY RATIONAL because humans are COMPLICATED.
Strangely the words "rational" and "logical" are functionally indistinguishable according to the dictionary.
Are emotions logical?
Well, they are certainly subject to the laws of cause and effect, so they'd pretty much have to be logical.
Do emotions sometimes cause a person to act in "unpredictable" ways?
Well, it might seem like they do, but actually acting emotionally is often even more predictable than acting "rationally".
Do emotions sometimes cause a person to do things counterproductive to their STATED "conscious" intentions?
YES. Almost always.
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@Lemming
and a lack of conscience
Of course this is difficult to quantify.
But you claim to have a conscience.
Doesn't your conscience tell you "right" from "wrong"?
Iff you have a functioning conscience, can you still be a "moral nihilist"?
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@Lemming
Suppose I called myself more specifically,A moral nihilist?Or said I was possessing a degree of Immorality / Amorality, due to an intellectual conclusion regarding the concepts of objective and subjective morality?
Ok, so more of a "sociopath"?
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@Lemming
Nihilism has a nice ring to it and it does evoke a certain response from most individuals.
I'm merely pointing out that (IFF) you really didn't care about anything (THEN) you most certainly wouldn't do anything
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@Lemming
hence why I like calling myself a nihilist.
A true nihilist would never communicate with anyone.
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@Tarik
just because you believe in a code of conduct that doesn’t make your code moralWhat standard would you compare and contrast a specific code-of-conduct with in order to determine its "morality-coefficient"?That’s a separate narrative that I don’t care to get into right now.
QUANTIFYING MORALITY IS THE FUNDAMENTAL CORE OF THIS ENTIRE CONVERSATION.
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@Tarik
just because you believe in a code of conduct that doesn’t make your code moral
What standard would you compare and contrast a specific code-of-conduct with in order to determine its "morality-coefficient"?
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@Tarik
What makes you think I care about the proposition of morality as you define it?
Because you are a party to this conversation.
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@FLRW
Thanks for another example of poor design.
Variety and variation is not necessarily "poor design".
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@Intelligence_06
A shocking number of "intelligent" people refuse to even broach the subject because their ONTOLOGY only includes XX and XY ("end-of-story").
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In high school biology, we learn that humans are born with either XX or XY chromosomes, and that a person’s internal and external sex organs match those chromosomes.
It turns out, however, that BIOLOGICAL sex isn’t that straightforward.
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@n8nrgmi
Here's your gameplan, [LINK]
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@FLRW
From this it seems that old people might want to get vaccinated.
Good idea.
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@ronjs
Is it "justice" to create broken robots and then punish them for being broken?
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@Lemming
Sure, sure the corona is "not good", of course.
Is it something we should completely change everyone's lives over?
Probably not.
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@Greyparrot
Even the best aphorisms do not magically make a nation "better".
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@zedvictor4
2.8 million deaths globally.
What percentage of 7.9 billion is 2.8 million?
0.035443037974683546%
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@Lemming
Old people die at a high rate, so doubling that rate would kill a lot of old people.
Are you suggesting that covid has DOUBLED everyone's chance of death?
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@Greyparrot
How well you can heed those 3 curses. Do you have a fundamental issue with those 3 curses? Any one of them?
Aphorisms are one thing.
PRAXIS is quite another.
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@Greyparrot
No, but they are heading in the right direction tackling both overpopulation and affluenza. America is racing in the opposite direction.
What's your primary measure of "success"?
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@Greyparrot
heeding the 3 curses. Did you not read the op?
That alone doesn't seem to be helping them avoid suicide.
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@Greyparrot
BEIJING
A person tries to kill themselves in China every two minutes, the government and state media said Thursday, giving the country one of the highest suicide rates in the world.
China's suicide rate is 22.23 people out of every 100,000, the Centre for Disease Control and Prevention said on its website.
"Our nation has one of the highest rates of suicide in the world," the Beijing Youth Daily quoted Beijing Health Bureau spokesman Mao Yu as saying. [**]
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@Greyparrot
The Fairfax County study concluded that among the possible risk factors facing young people there were an inadequate number of school counselors, stigma and denial around mental illness, pressure to excel academically and bullying through social media.
If they were lazy trust-fund kids, they wouldn't have to worry about any of that "school" bullshit.
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@Greyparrot
Consider this experiment in a Utopian society void of any meaningful purpose for life.
The sustainable (20,000) rat paradise,
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@Greyparrot
Researchers from the San Francisco Federal Reserve found people who earn 10 percent less than their neighbors are 4.5 percent more likely to commit suicide.
While the effect was seen among high-earning individuals, the most vulnerable to this phenomenon are low-income people living amongst the wealthy.
While the effect was seen among high-earning individuals, the most vulnerable to this phenomenon are low-income people living amongst the wealthy.
Here are some of the financial factors that contribute to suicide:
Location, location, location. Poverty has been shown to increase suicide risk, but location plays a big role as well. Low-income individuals who lay down roots in wealthier communities are essentially setting themselves up for disaster. Not only do they have less cash to afford a higher cost of living –– health care, housing, and other expenses are typically higher in high-income areas –– but they're basically living inside of the wealth gap. That all leads to an increased risk for suicide. [**]
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@Unpopular
Why would you assume that people living in hotbeds have been exposed, if there have been lockdowns, social distancing, and masks?
The question is whether lockdowns worked to control the virus in a way that is scientifically verifiable. Based on the following studies, the answer is no and for a variety of reasons: bad data, no correlations, no causal demonstration, anomalous exceptions, and so on. There is no relationship between lockdowns (or whatever else people want to call them to mask their true nature) and virus control. [**]
It's like saying that your lucky charm brings you good luck because even when things go wrong, without your lucky charm, just think of how much worse they would have been.
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@Lemming
95.65213258609808% of official covid deaths are in the 50 to 85 age range.
503,157 is what percentage of 526,028?
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@Lemming
Rare edge-cases like Mary Mallon are great EXCUSES for invasive policies.
Quarantine might be warranted for SOME DISEASES.
However, when they try to tell you that this super deadly super contagious plague has no detectable symptoms and they use PCR amplification to diagnose, it's definitely beyond the pale.
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@Greyparrot
At least the government isn't mandating inoculations.
SAY GOODBYE TO MEDICAL PRIVACY.
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@Lemming
The argument I've been expecting to see, but have either missed or been mistaken in my prediction,Is that there is no necessary evil, if the end was necessary and there was no kinder way to go about it.
Perhaps the "lesser of two evils"?
Perhaps "evil" is "something personally unpleasant"?
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@Greyparrot
Many kids of celebrities do just that.
More than the poor kids?
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@Greyparrot
You should really do some research into why people give up on life when they have no purpose.It's a genetic vestigial trait of a fit species that survived a millennia of strife. Genes are not changing anywhere near as fast as technology.We have essentially the same genes as a caveman with the same genetic impulses and instincts.
(IFF) your hypothesis is correct (THEN) why don't most lazy trust-fund kids just kill themselves?
I mean, they're set-for-life.
They don't need to work for their food.
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@FLRW
The agency has investigated 13 of the deaths so far and concluded that common adverse reactions of mRNA vaccines, such as fever, nausea, and diarrhoea, may have contributed to fatal outcomes in some of the frail patients. [**]
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@FLRW
There is no evidence that the death of 66-year-old Marvelous Marvin Hagler...
It's pretty strange that temporal proximity to receiving the jab somehow magically amounts to "no evidence".
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@Greyparrot
Also,
Alexander’s experiments, in the 1970s, have come to be called the “Rat Park". 1 Researchers had already proved that when rats were placed in a cage, all alone, with no other community of rats, and offered two water bottles-one filled with water and the other with heroin or cocaine-the rats would repetitively drink from the drug-laced bottles until they all overdosed and died. Like pigeons pressing a pleasure lever, they were relentless, until their bodies and brains were overcome, and they died.
But Alexander wondered: is this about the drug or might it be related to the setting they were in? To test his hypothesis, he put rats in “rat parks,” where they were among others and free to roam and play, to socialize and to have sex. And they were given the same access to the same two types of drug laced bottles. When inhabiting a “rat park,” they remarkably preferred the plain water. Even when they did imbibe from the drug-filled bottle, they did so intermittently, not obsessively, and never overdosed. A social community beat the power of drugs. [**]
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@FLRW
Doctors in Norway have been told to conduct more thorough evaluations of very frail elderly patients in line to receive the Pfizer BioNTec vaccine against covid-19, following the deaths of 23 patients shortly after receiving the vaccine.
“It may be a coincidence, but we aren’t sure,” Steinar Madsen, medical director of the Norwegian Medicines Agency (NOMA), told The BMJ. “There is no certain connection between these deaths and the vaccine.”
The agency has investigated 13 of the deaths so far and concluded that common adverse reactions of mRNA vaccines, such as fever, nausea, and diarrhoea, may have contributed to fatal outcomes in some of the frail patients. [**]
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@FLRW
Not one vaccinated person has gotten sick enough to require hospitalization. Not a single vaccinated person has died of COVID-19.
Debates Erupt After Marvin Hagler’s Death
The death of famed boxer Marvin Hagler sparked conversations around hesitancy over the COVID-19 vaccine, especially within Black communities.
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@Athias
THE QUESTION IS, "WHAT RESPONSIBILITY DO GRANDCHILDREN HAVE FOR THE CRIMES (think "deathcamps" & "slaughter") OF THEIR GRANDPARENTS?"(A) 0%(B) 5%(C) 6%A.
There it is.
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