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@Tarik
A Turing Test is a method of inquiry in artificial intelligence (AI) for determining whether or not a computer is capable of thinking like a human being. The test is named after Alan Turing, the founder of the Turing Test and an English computer scientist, cryptanalyst, mathematician and theoretical biologist.
Turing proposed that a computer can be said to possess (artificial) intelligence if it can mimic human responses under specific conditions. The original Turing Test requires three terminals, each of which is physically separated from the other two. One terminal is operated by a computer, while the other two are operated by humans.
During the test, one of the humans functions as the questioner, while the second human and the computer function as respondents. The questioner interrogates the respondents within a specific subject area, using a specified format and context. After a preset length of time or number of questions, the questioner is then asked to decide which respondent was human and which was a computer. [**]
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@SkepticalOne
Again you cannot monitor with evidence internal emotions.You can - just not directly.
It's important to clearly distinguish QUANTA from QUALIA.
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@HistoryBuff
The system itself is demonstrably broken from top to bottom.you've veered wildly away from what this topic is about. It is about the riots in the capitol and trump's part in that. This topic relates to trump's lies about the election so I was going to discuss those. But you are now jumping to random other things that have nothing to do with the topic, so i'm going to stop responding to those.
You're the one who questioned me SPECIFICALLY about the general LACK OF FAITH in the election system.
I'm just following your lead sweetheart.
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@HistoryBuff
I'm merely pointing out how reasonable it is to LACK FAITH IN THE ELECTORAL SYSTEM.so let me get this straight. There is no evidence that anything went wrong with the election. But we should believe that things went wrong with the election? We should just fear and spread conspiracies based on absolutely nothing?
so let me get this straight. There is no way of independently auditing any of the vote counts. But we should just have faith and believe that things were 100% on the level? We should just trust our elected officials to properly and fairly handle their OWN elections?
Do you understand how gerrymandering works?
Do you know why polling stations in poor areas are much more likely to be closed and or moved on short notice?
Are you familiar with voter-id laws?
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@Tarik
The human mind is merely apparent.Demonstrate that assertion.
Have you ever heard of the Turing Test?
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@sadolite
I will agree in the big scheme of things my life doesn't mean shit., The world will never miss me or you or anyone on this site if we died today. The world would even know or care.
Well stated.
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@Intelligence_06
Saying BLM is correct because ALM is "racist" is an appeal to tradition fallacy.
Simply "not-supporting" BLM does not auto-magically make you a "racist".
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@Dr.Franklin
what makes you think breonna taylor is innocent?
Perhaps because she wasn't accused of a crime.
Perhaps because there was no warrant issued for her arrest.
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@Dr.Franklin
because their family and ancestors fought and sacrificed so much for you to be born and enjoy life.
Wouldn't that perhaps make you "proud of your ancestors"?
I still don't see how you could possibly give yourself any "credit" for being born.
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@HistoryBuff
That, right there. That is the core of the idiocy of the republicans these days. They are not claiming a specific fraud. They have nothing. no evidence that anything significant went wrong. This has been one of the most scrutinized elections in history and no one can come up with any kind of fraud.But right wing loons continue to tell anyone and everyone they can that fraud was rampant, they just can't show you any evidence of it because..... reasons. But you should totally take their word for it....
I'm merely pointing out how reasonable it is to LACK FAITH IN THE ELECTORAL SYSTEM.
AND, I'VE NEVER VOTED FOR A REPUBLICAN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.
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@HistoryBuff
All electronic voting systems are extremely vulnerable to undetectable fraud.ahh yes, the best friend of the insane conspiracy theorist is the fraud that there is no evidence for and cannot be evidence for. Your argument boils down to:
ahh yes, the best friend of the loyal authoritarian sycophant is the idea that an opaque system is trustworthy in spite of systemic design flaws.
1) you don't like the results
I'm ecstatic about "the results".
2) you choose to believe the results are fake even though there is absolutely ZERO evidence that there was any significant fraud.
The entire system is demonstrably rigged.
Have you ever heard of gerrymandering?
Have you ever heard of CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA?
Are you familiar with the "social experiments" that facebook ran?
3) you make up excuses about why the results are fake and the evidence is just invisible.
The system itself is demonstrably broken from top to bottom.
If the results had been faked, then why the hell would republicans have won down ballot? There are lots of places where trump lost and other republicans won. It would have been so much easier and better for the democrats if the down ballot races went to democrats. The reason is that people wanted trump gone.
It's really cute that some people still believe in a "two party system".
REPUBLICRATS AND DEMOBLICANS WANT EXACTLY THE SAME THING.
TRUMP IS SIMPLY A MAD DOG THAT OUR CORPORATE MASTERS WANTED TO REMOVE.
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@HistoryBuff
CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgYvf3Ckdsothis has nothing to do with fraud.This is the very definition of "election rigging".so you are arguing fraud happened. You link something that has absolutely nothing to do with fraud. And your response essentially just confirms that you understand it has nothing to do with fraud. So why did you bring it up in a discussion about fraud?
What do you think CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA is about?
No. I'm not claiming a specific "fraud" in 2020. I'm merely pointing out how reasonable it is to LACK FAITH IN THE ELECTORAL SYSTEM.
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@Tarik
Are you seriously disputing the existence of the human mind? If not then it’s demonstrable.
The human brain is empirically demonstrable.
The human brain is an OBJECT.
The human mind is merely apparent.
The human mind is an ABSTRACT CONCEPT.
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@HistoryBuff
But impeachment doesn't prevent Trump's arrest. That also should happen.
To most rich and powerful people, "the law" is simply a game.
It's merely a façade of "justice" that thinly veils a convenient bludgeon for the oppression of the poor and the helpless.
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@HistoryBuff
ELECTRONIC VOTING: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmIwhat exactly is this link supposed to tell me? How does this, in any way, relate to the 2020 election?
All electronic voting systems are extremely vulnerable to undetectable fraud.
These problems have been extensively documented by computer scientists.
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@HistoryBuff
CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgYvf3Ckdsothis has nothing to do with fraud.
This is the very definition of "election rigging".
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@Tarik
Yes, and the human mind is empirically demonstrable, and logically necessary (In certain contexts).
The human brain is empirically demonstrable.
The human mind is merely apparent.
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@ethang5
And "subjective" still does not mean "non-existent". Imagine that.
If you were asked to describe an elephant, would you say, "not a hamburger"?
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@Tarik
But concrete objects existing is a fact is it not?
Abstract concepts are NOT concrete objects.
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@Tarik
Facts isn’t an abstract concept, I literally gave an example of a fact a post ago.
A FACT must be empirically demonstrable and or logically-necessary.
If you personally prefer a different definition of "fact" please simply present it for consideration.
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@Tarik
What did you eat today and why?I don’t see how answering a question with a question is responsive...
Because it's an example of something you did because of your FEELINGS.
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@Tarik
yes, yes, no human is capable of an "objective" thought.No human minds existing is an objective thought because it’s factual.
"No human minds existing" is a HYPOTHETICAL THOUGHT, not a "factual" description.
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@Tarik
Yes, because that statement no human minds exist will be a fact and facts are objective.
Abstract concepts are not "objective".
Logical tautologies (FACTS) do not "exist" in the same way that concrete OBJECTS "exist".
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@Benjamin
Christians tend to have privilege.What? Give me any more information?
Yeah, they get into all the best after-life clubs.
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@Theweakeredge
...considering that everyone who needs more protection should get it...
Well stated.
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@Tarik
even if emotion drives every decision that’s not the same as saying there’s no objectivity,
(IFF) your definition specifically EXCLUDES EMOTION (THEN) yes, yes, no human is capable of an "objective" thought.
would you like me to give examples (outside religion contexts)?
What did you eat today and why?
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@Tarik
Sure, the word objective and it’s definition exists regardless of what I say, do, or think,
Think about the definition of "objective" specifically the "exists independently of a mind" portion.
Now imagine a world with no human minds.
Does the "definition" of "objective" still "exist"?
I'm pretty certain, even by the most generous definition of "objective" possible, that NO ABSTRACT NOUNS "EXIST".
ONLY CONCRETE NOUNS "EXIST".
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@HistoryBuff
The ONLY POINT is that the American public has LOST FAITH in the process (and for good reason).yeah, that reason is...
CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgYvf3Ckdso
ELECTRONIC VOTING: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI
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@fauxlaw
Now imagine how you might feel if a bunch of SHIVA acolytes started passing pro-SHIVA laws in your town and or city?
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@Tarik
Every single choice you make is motivated by your e-motion.
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@Dr.Franklin
you should take pride in what you were born with
Why would anyone be "proud" of something they were given with ZERO EFFORT?
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@Tarik
You’re conflating two separate things the nature of a word and it’s definition is separate from the choices that I make.
Please explain.
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@Theweakeredge
Are you saying its impossible to dislike fictional characters?
Can I dislike the ideas (policy proposals) of people who think fictional characters are REAL?
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@fauxlaw
No, and neither can you. How do you prove a negative by opposing it?
The point is that you can oppose an IDEA or an IDEOLOGY (like "theism" or "flat-earth") EVEN IFF you personally don't believe in it.
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@ethang5
How can there be a "correct" definition when you say meaning just depends on which dictionary you use?
I'm asking how YOU KNOW.
In debating terms, it's called "the principle of charity".
I'm letting you pick your personally preferred "correct" definition.
YOU get to set the "ground rules" so to speak.
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@HistoryBuff
Protesters blocked freeways in Los Angeles and gathered in front of Trump properties in New York City.
Tens of thousands of demonstrators took to the streets in cities across the country Wednesday to protest Donald Trump's election victory, in mostly peaceful gatherings that nonetheless resulted in at least 124 arrests and reports of damage, vandalism and injuries in several locations. [**]
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@Theweakeredge
we should be comparing severity and ultimate point of the riots,
Riots are like snowflakes, or fingerprints.
The ONLY POINT is that the American public has LOST FAITH in the process (and for good reason).
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@fauxlaw
Within the context of a fictional or non-fictional story...
Can you be against the idea of SHIVA even if you personally don't believe in SHIVA?
Now imagine how you might feel if a bunch of SHIVA acolytes started passing pro-SHIVA laws in your town and or city?
I mean, why would you even care?
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@fauxlaw
Can you not believe that a DEEP-STATE-CONSPIRACY does not exist and also be against it?
Can you not believe that SATAN does not exist and also be against it?
I'm pretty sure you can be against any IDEA, regardless of whether or not the idea is an ACTUAL PERSON or simply AN ABSTRACT CONCEPT.
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@Benjamin
This was true at least the 200 first years following their Christian constitution.
Citation requested for "Christian constitution", please.
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Christian values existed before Christ you don't get to own all the religious concepts ever cause you god is the newest.
Well stated.
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@Theweakeredge
"Morality" is an abstract noun which is in direct contrast with a concrete noun.
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@ethang5
The correct definition must be used.
Which definition (specifically) do you think is "the correct" definition?
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@ethang5
Dictionaries do not give different definitions for the same word. They would be useless if they did.
YES THEY DO.
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@ethang5
unsupported argument.
Leviticus 25:44 - 46
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@ethang5
You again forgot Exodus 21:16 - “Anyone who kidnaps someone is to be put to death, whether the victim has been sold or is still in the kidnapper’s possession.
You again forgot Leviticus 25:44 - 46 - "44‘As for your male and female slaves whom you may have—you may acquire [NOT KIDNAP] male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you. 45‘Then, too, it is out of the sons of the sojourners who live as aliens among you that you may gain acquisition [NOT KIDNAP], and out of their families who are with you, whom they will have produced in your land; they also may become your possession. 46‘You may even bequeath them to your sons after you, to receive as a possession; you can use them as permanent slaves. But in respect to your countrymen, the sons of Israel, you shall not rule with severity over one another."
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@HistoryBuff
On November 9–12, 2016, protests occurred in Oakland, California against the election of Donald Trump.
While originally peaceful, these protests became violent, with protesters lighting trash cans and cars and a building on fire and smashing store windows and throwing bottles at police.
Thirty protesters were arrested, and three officers were injured. [**]
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@Tarik
the assumption that the word itself is objective
Everything you do. Your choice to get out of bed is based on your personal feelings or opinions. Every single choice you make is motivated by your e-motion.
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