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Omniscience and Free Will Coexistence
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@Mhykiel
what is the utility and or necessity that compels god to grant humans "free-will" ?
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TRIBALISM = GOOD
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@zedvictor4
Essentially Bitcoin must also inflate, otherwise it will either lose it's purchasing power or have an infinitely unearned value relative to all other currencies.
inflation is when a currency loses value due to overproduction relative to demand

deflation is when a currency gains value due to underproduction relative to demand

bitcoin cannot inflate

the supply is hard-coded
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@TheUnderdog
That’s food.  It would be more like Americans moving to Italy along with a bunch of other ethnic group moving to Italy and then those Americans preferring to only live with other Americans.  If that’s you, then why move to Italy?
Expats tend to live near one another because of the costs and the amenities that they either expect or desire for themselves or in particular, their families. Most of those communities tend to be clustered near one another, too. It is also much easier to communicate in your own language, in somewhat familiar surroundings, and with others who will find that the laughable situations that occur in our daily business lives are just as laughable to them. 
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MAGA stands for Make America Germany Around 1938
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@IwantRooseveltagain
at this point i'm not sure it would change any minds if trump started wearing a white robe with a pointy hat
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What's the strongest argument for atheism?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOHeNuWszTQ

it's like this thread, but as a live debate
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Prayer Works
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Can i get a AMEN.
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Prayer Works
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@Deb-8-a-bull
PRAYERS do in fact WORK. 
great work
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Being Pro choice is being pro abortion/homosexuality.
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@Mall
Oh right.
Wickard v. Filburn
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Being Pro choice is being pro abortion/homosexuality.
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@Mall
Why does the government do what it doesn't need to?
scope creep
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TRIBALISM = GOOD
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@zedvictor4
If Bitcoin is a digital currency, then printing is a somewhat irrelevant analogy.

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@MarkWebberFan2
but legacy tenants aren't as pure as the average westerner generally thinks
if you asked the "average westerner" what they think of "the palestinians" any time between 1948 and october 6th 2023

90% would say they are teh evilz

nobody thinks they're "pure"

but for some weird reason the international community believes it's a war crime to cut power and water and block humanitarian aid to civilians
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@MarkWebberFan2
when you mix two fanatical theocracy together
zionists claim their project is purely secular
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@zedvictor4
If Bitcoin is a digital currency, then printing is a somewhat irrelevant analogy.
98% of usdollars are digital as well
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@zedvictor4
If goods and services increase in value and Bitcoin doesn't,
the bitcoin supply doesn't inflate

bitcoin value rises relative to the inflation of the usdollar + adoption
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@TheUnderdog
How could they want to segregate and move out of the country with the most hatians per capita?
for the same reason american tourists travel to tuscany and then eat at mcdonalds
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Being Pro choice is being pro abortion/homosexuality.
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@Mall
One in the same. 

Operates from the same basis. You can't be for one without these other elements.
pro-choice = pro-bodily-autonomy

pro-bodily-autonomy = pro-self-identification

and pro-privacy

the government doesn't need to register pregnancy

the government doesn't need to register gender identity

the government doesn't need to register your chromosomes 

the government doesn't need to register vaccine status
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What is DEI...really?
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@Greyparrot
What is DEI...really?
total bullshit

blackrock is pushing this whole thing

and they are no more diverse or equitable or inclusive than anyone else

it's a smoke-screen

a jabberwocky to scare the peasants
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@MarkWebberFan2
There's a good chance those legacy tenants are typically vehemently opposed to different lifestyles
ok, i guess that means we should slaughter them all
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@TheUnderdog
If Hatians wanted to segregate, then they would still live in Haiti.

not necessarily
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@zedvictor4
How can the purchasing power of BTC remain unchanging, if the value of goods and services is always inflating?
"purchasing power" is not the same as INFLATION


BITCOIN cannot be printed on demand, that's why it will never INFLATE
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@zedvictor4

here's your price in gbp

the value proposition is

that, like all fiat

gbp is inflating


Value of £20,000 from 1990 to 2024

£20,000 in 1990 is equivalent in purchasing power to about £56,970.30 today, an increase of £36,970.30 over 34 years. The pound had an average inflation rate of 3.13% per year between 1990 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 184.85%.
This means that today's prices are 2.85 times as high as average prices since 1990, according to the Office for National Statistics composite price index. A pound today only buys 35.106% of what it could buy back then.

in other words, if you were making £20,000 per year in 1990

and today you are making £56,970.30 per year

then you are essentially making the exact same amount of money this entire time


bitcoin can never be inflated
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@TheUnderdog
A one world nation with one world language ends the need for war.
great idea, how do we start that ?
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@TheUnderdog
Human beings are not countries.  Humans control territory that is privately owned.  Countries don't own territory in the same context.
government sets the property tax and can evict you for failure to pay property tax (essentially rent)

also

they can declare eminent domain for basically any reason the wish


when the united states absorbed the indian territories, they killed and corralled the natives
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@zedvictor4
Yep, but you don't get it for nothing?
you can probably exchange it for goods or services you offer
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@zedvictor4
So how does one acquire Bitcoin?
I live in the US and have started to DCA in BTC and move this into cold storage ~weekly. What is the cheapest way to purchase BTC in the US? I have used Coinbase and Robinhood but am wondering if cash app or other exchanges are better for the way I am buying. Thanks in advance ! [[LINK]]

i use coinbase.com
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@ADreamOfLiberty
2 million and two million people being killed in war or self-defense is not genocide
good to know
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Anyone that thinks white people shouldn't say the N word, don't be a hypocrite
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@Best.Korea
And what is the version of that word for white people?

i saw a documentary about california prisons where they addressed this, and the term was "pecker head"
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@ADreamOfLiberty
During the siege of British-held Fort Pitt in the Seven Years' War, Colonel Henry Bouquet ordered his men to take smallpox-infested blankets from their hospital and gave them as gifts to two neutral Lenape Indian dignitaries during a peace settlement negotiation, according to the entry in the Captain's ledger, "To convey the Smallpox to the Indians".[146][154][155] In the following weeks, Sir Jeffrey Amherst conspired with Bouquet to "Extirpate this Execreble Race" of Native Americans, writing, "Could it not be contrived to send the small pox among the disaffected tribes of Indians? We must on this occasion use every stratagem in our power to reduce them." His Colonel agreed to try.[145][154]

Most scholars have asserted that the 1837 Great Plains smallpox epidemic was "started among the tribes of the upper Missouri River by failure to quarantine steamboats on the river",[148] and Captain Pratt of the St. Peter "was guilty of contributing to the deaths of thousands of innocent people. The law calls his offense criminal negligence. Yet in light of all the deaths, the almost complete annihilation of the Mandans, and the terrible suffering the region endured, the label criminal negligence is benign, hardly befitting an action that had such horrendous consequences."[152] However, some sources attribute the 1836–40 epidemic to the deliberate communication of smallpox to Native Americans, with historian Ann F. Ramenofsky writing, "Variola Major can be transmitted through contaminated articles such as clothing or blankets. In the nineteenth century, the U. S. Army sent contaminated blankets to Native Americans, especially Plains groups, to control the Indian problem."[156] In Brazil, well into the 20th century, deliberate infection attacks continued as Brazilian settlers and miners transported infections intentionally to the native groups whose lands they coveted.[143] [[LINK]]

56 million died as a direct consequence of contact with europeans

the europeans new well enough that diseases like smallpox were contagious - everyone knew this

there is no shortage of data detailing the dehumanization rhetoric of the invaders

and there can be no doubt that many of them were killed by person to person violence

some estimates are 10 million

but even it it was "only" 6 million

or maybe even 2 million

it doesn't really change the equation
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What does un-designed look like?
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@ebuc
That { ex occupied space Universe } which exists eternally, cannot be designed. See the logic of that Zed.
BINGO
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What does un-designed look like?
Apparently the appearance of design proves the existence of a designer (god)
Unfortunately the appearance of design must involve the appearance of non design as a counterpoint or it is meaningless.
The claim of a designer of everything is a claim that nothing can appear designed.
In that paradigm design can only mean exist and that makes the word design meaningless.

TTTMTTFWTINKM

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I probably have a funny nickname for you
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@cristo71
Then there is a certain, bad boy actor whose notorious, un-self aware boast was simply “Winning!” From there, you should be able to guess who it is.
RationalMadman
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Dollar Collapse 2050
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@ebuc
The creator of above chart also says that, historically a war or military conflict occurs when these two meet at the strength grows and the other wanes.
sounds about right

combine that with demographic shift

and birthrates falling off a cliff
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Dollar Collapse 2050
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@FLRW
1946 was a good year
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@zedvictor4
So I can just pretend that I have Bitcoin and start emailing it around?
that won't get you very far
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@zedvictor4
Just previous settlers.

PRIMAL ETHICS

(1) PROTECT YOURSELF
(2) PROTECT YOUR FAMILY
(3) PROTECT YOUR PROPERTY

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@ADreamOfLiberty
Is debunked as baseless.
of course it is, because you personally decided
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Easy farming - Tao farming
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@FLRW
“The danger of the past was that men became slaves. The danger of the future is that men may become robots.”

This word came to English via the German, though the word ultimately derives from the Czech robota meaning ‘forced labour’ or ‘slavery’.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
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@ADreamOfLiberty
In addition to the deadly impact of diseases, wars, and genocide, Thornton hasemphasized that many Indigenous nations in what is today the United States were“removed, relocated, dispersed, concentrated, or forced to migrate at least once aftercontact with Europeans or Americans.”47 And he has observed that the forced removal ofover 100,000 Indigenous people to areas west of the Mississippi River during the first halfof the nineteenth century directly resulted in significant loss of life.48 Moreover, suchremovals and relocations destroyed Indigenous people’s ways of life, which resulted insubstantial additional loss of life.49 [[LINK]]
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@ADreamOfLiberty
This is false.
ok, i guess that whole "manifest destiny" thing was just a misunderstanding

and the smallpox situation was simply "god's will"


European settlers killed 56 million indigenous people over about 100 years in South, Central and North America, causing large swaths of farmland to be abandoned and reforested, researchers at University College London, or UCL, estimate. [[LINK]]
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@Best.Korea
Native Americans agreed to give 99% of their land to European invaders, after European invaders killed most of Native Americans.

bingo
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I have spent lot of years mainly figuring out what myself and this reality is all about.
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@MAV99
The actual moment of causation is the cause giving Act to a Potency. The effect is the resultant Act.
is this resultant act wholly informed by your biology and experience ?

or is there something more

some "magic" perhaps associated with converting "potency" into a "resultant act" ?
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once upon a time several families all lived in an old apartment building

this building had been built a long time ago and the families handed down their apartments to their children

a few of them sold their apartments to a group of newcomers

one day the landlord told everyone they were no longer going to manage the building and everyone would own the apartments they lived in and they would have to manage the building together

and to everyone's surprise

on the same day the old landlord left, several of the newcomers declared themselves the new owners of the building

the majority of the tenants were unhappy about this

but the new self-declared owners had stockpiled weapons and were "recognized" by a powerful neighbor as the official new owners

and rather predictably at that point

the legacy tenants tried to throw out the newcomers

a group of neighbors wrote an opinion about how the building should be split roughly in half

but the legacy tenants would not agree to give up half the building to the presumptuous newcomers who simply declared themselves the new owners of everything
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The main cause of the American Civil War was Slavery. Prove me wrong.
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@Moozer325
Yes, tensiones had been simmering for a while, but I still maintain that slavery was more than just the catalyst, and the main issue in that particular instance of national disunity.
sure, that much seems clear

but i think it is important to include federal overreach

In 1957, President Eisenhower sent federal troops to Little Rock, Arkansas enforce the integration of Central High School following resistance from state officials and local mobs.

we hear a lot about this or that being "unconstitutional"

but generally we don't really care unless it supports our personal preconceptions
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I'm not anti Semitic, but
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@Greyparrot
There's a reason why the "News" rhymes with the .....
shoes ?
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I have spent lot of years mainly figuring out what myself and this reality is all about.
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@MAV99
Every Cause is indeterminate until the actual moment of causation.

ok, so you're having trouble with the idea of "predetermination"

that's fine

i consider myself an indeterminist

but only because of random noise

which could also potentially be simply a lack-of-precision



what are you injecting into "the actual moment of causation" if not random noise ?


also, causes-and-effects are continuous and only identified post-hoc as "discrete events"
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@zedvictor4
Nonetheless, I'm just curious about the actual benefits of of a new brand of currency over the old ones.

anyone with an email address can receive and send bitcoin to anyone else with an email address - anywhere on earth

nobody can block this transaction

this utility is highlighted by the wikileaks credit card blockade and the canadian trucker bank account freeze

bitcoin facilitates international transfers of value with much lower fees than traditional services like western union and simplifies currency conversion

bitcoin facilitates free trade between nations that are blocked by swift or sanctioned by governments

bitcoin is a purely neutral value vehicle that can't be inflated or created out of thin air like every national currency and stock certificate on earth

a good illustration of this contrast with traditional fiat banking is the largest bank heist of all time

"Cashing crews" pulled $40 million out of automated teller machines in 24 countries over a 10-hour period. The 2013 heist was accomplished with the precision of a Hollywood drama, thanks to hackers who breached financial networks, then inflated balances on prepaid debit cards.

the thieves were able to hack into the debit card ledger and literally type in whatever dollar amount they wanted

which is the most shocking and undeniable evidence that fiat dollars do not exist in any universal ledger and can be created out of thin air

another good example of rampant and normalized accounting fraud is the gamestop short-squeeze

the hedge-funds who were shorting gamestop had actually shorted MORE stock than existed in shareholder hands

this made it impossible for them to settle

and that's why they had to force the exchanges to freeze all purchases of gamestop - - specifically with the aim of crashing it - - blatant stock manipulation

and look, don't even get me started on the gold and silver scams
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The main cause of the American Civil War was Slavery. Prove me wrong.
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@Moozer325
Yes, some states had problems with the federal government before, but nothing that even came close to a civil war. 

A nullification crisis emerged in the 1830s over President Andrew Jackson’s tariff acts of 1828 and 1832. Led by John Calhoun, President Jackson’s vice president, nullifiers argued that high tariffs on imported goods benefited northern manufacturing interests while disadvantaging economies in the South. South Carolina passed an Ordinance of Nullification declaring both tariff acts null and void and threatened to leave the Union. The federal government responded by enacting the Force Bill in 1833, authorizing President Jackson to use military force against states that challenged federal tariff laws. The prospect of military action coupled with the passage of the Compromise Tariff Act of 1833 (which lowered tariffs over time) led South Carolina to back off, ending the nullification crisis.
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The main cause of the American Civil War was Slavery. Prove me wrong.
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@Moozer325
Various states railed against the nationalization of power that had been going on since the late 1700s. When President John Adams signed the Sedition Act in 1798, which made it a crime to speak openly against the government, the Kentucky and Virginia legislatures passed resolutions declaring the act null on the grounds that they retained the discretion to follow national laws. In effect, these resolutions articulated the legal reasoning underpinning the doctrine of nullification—that states had the right to reject national laws they deemed unconstitutional.[5] [[LINK]]


ok, yeah, of course the confederates were evil racist idiots

sure

and the threat of losing their primary workforce triggered the revolt


but there are many legitimate complaints regarding the apparently unstoppable overreach of the federal government


the slavery thing was simply the last straw
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I have spent lot of years mainly figuring out what myself and this reality is all about.
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@MAV99
You seem to be saying that something is an effect before it is an effect. Which is to say that something is an effect and not effect at the same time and in the same way. Which is absurd.
that's not necessarily the case

first cause + (effect which is also a cause) + (effect which is also a cause) + (effect which is also a cause) + (effect which is also a cause) = (object which is both an effect and also a cause)

one necessarily and inevitably leads to the next
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