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@Greyparrot
Being a teen mom is a choice.
Yes.
In the exact same way you "choose" to wrap your car around a tree.
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@lady3keys
My mistake, yes.
I'd advise against personal anecdotes.
Your identity cannot validate or invalidate your LOGIC.
But anything you say can and will most certainly be used against you RHETORICALLY.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Seems you are trying to somehow shift responsibility, consequences away from consenting actions.
THE RICH CAN MITIGATE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES.
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@Athias
"Black" is neither a race nor a culture.
100% THIS.
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@lady3keys
But some ENVIRONMENTS are more CONDUCIVE to causing its children and teenagers to make mistakes than others. How can you not see that?
It's like a blind intersection.
Cars keep colliding in the same place, over and over, and we BLAME THE DRIVERS.
Nobody even remembers who commissioned, designed and built the road itself.
The people responsible are NEVER charged.
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@lady3keys
By voting for someone who will actually help! Just ask 90% of the black vote. Biden cares about the black community.
Joe Biden might conceivably do "less damage" than Trump, but I wouldn't go so far as to call that "help".
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@Greyparrot
These are the exact same policies that have failed for 40 years. Why do you support 40 years of failed policies?
RIGHT = LEFT
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@Greyparrot
Let's go over line by line of the rehashing of the failed policies of 40 years ago so I can slowly explain to you exactly why they have failed for the past 40 years.
NEWS FLASH: NOBODY LIKES JOE BIDEN.
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@Greyparrot
Alternative justice? Another one of those head scratcher terms.
Good point.
I thought "justice" was "blind".
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@ILikePie5
Why didn’t Hussein and Joe do this in the 8 years in their office. All talk no action. Only a fool would believe Joe plans to do stuff when he hasn’t for the last 47 years
NEWS FLASH: POLITICIANS ARE LIARS
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@ILikePie5
Only a fool would believe Joe is going to do any of that when he couldn’t while he was Hussein’s wingman
When you say "Hussein" are you referring to the guy who extended nearly every single Cheney/Bush policy?
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@Greyparrot
@ILikePie5
How much do you think 2 free years of trade school will cost the taxpayer?
Public education costs an average of $15,000.00 per child per year TODAY.
Imagine if we simply gave that exact same money to parents.
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@Greyparrot
Well, you can't really trust any poll in the current cancel culture climate. It's like trying to poll in China or Russia.
Intuition is much more reliable than data.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
@lady3keys
that is the leftist vision of black people, apparently yours as well" they can't help break the law because they are black and poor, they are talented and just as bright as white kids, right?"
RICH = BRIGHT
POOR = DIM
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@lady3keys
I know I am just about the only moderate (liberal leaning) person in the Politics forum.
You might find more a "reasonable" audience in the Philosophy Forum.
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@lady3keys
But honestly, WOW! I know I am just about the only moderate (liberal leaning) person in the Politics forum.
The most active commenters tend to be the most acerbic.
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@Greyparrot
It clearly says there Biden believes housing should be a right.
(1) do you personally believe we have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
(2) in practical terms, what specifically does this mean to you?
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@ILikePie5
Exactly. People like HB never defend Joe because he knows it’s useless
NEWS FLASH: NOBODY LIKES JOE BIDEN.
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@ILikePie5
This time will surely be different.
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@Greyparrot
This isn't just about choosing alternative schools for academic reasons. It's also about having the opportunity to choose a different ideology for your children that isn't straight from a Marxist manifesto.
Seriously though, you're going to love this,
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@Greyparrot
Because if parents were allowed to pick the schools their kids go to, the shitty schools would go bankrupt.
And no private school has any incentive whatsoever to build in a poor district.
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@ILikePie5
Poor minority areas are disproportionately run by Democrats for a reason
Like Finland?
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@lady3keys
I have to say, I do think schooling is much more important than making "housing a right".
You might find this interesting,
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@ILikePie5
@lady3keys
We’re no more far-righters than you are a far-leftistThanks for that. I appreciate it quite a bit. You are right of course. I shouldn't call you "far-righters" anymore than Greyparrot should call me a "Marxist".
Perhaps we should allow people to identify THEMSELVES.
Name-calling is still name-calling (ad hominem attack) even if the "name/label" sounds technical and or political.
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@Greyparrot
Well if you have a problem condemning Illegal Marxists, then I severely misjudged you as well.
Please explain how I can determine exactly who is a "marxist" and who isn't(?)
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@Greyparrot
Well if you have a problem condemning Illegal Marxists, then I severely misjudged you as well.
I hope you realize that the people in charge don't care if you vote republican or democrat, they win either way.
You might enjoy this,
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@ILikePie5
The Republican Platform is a Marxist power grab from every direction. PATRIOT ACT, check. NATIONAL CURFEW, check. CLOSING CHURCHES, check. CONTACT TRACING, check.
Don’t forget that the American Revolution was cause by the people.
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@n8nrgmi
id say blacks are mostly victims of their own culture.
Do you understand that "culture" is merely how a group of people adapt to their environment?
Cultural hallmarks like food and language are purely adaptive.
Culture is a response to environmental conditions.
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@Greyparrot
RCV BABY!!
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@Intelligence_06
...but people believe that voting for 3rd party is a waste.
But if we don't vote for a lizard, the wrong lizard might win!
- Douglass Adams [LINK]
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@Death23
RCV BABY!!
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@Lemming
I 'do enjoy not having the thought police on my brain, personally.
If I locked you in a room with a piece of paper and a pencil, could you commit a crime?
If you showed that piece of paper to other people, either by posting it in a public place or by giving away copies, could that be a crime?
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@Lemming
Take the focus on being clean in some religions or practices, or in how they deal with the dead.
I agree. Many "religious" guidelines have very practical benefits. However, these benefits are not contingent on worship of an unknowable cosmic peeping tom.
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@Lemming
Well, some people actively seek therapy from mental health providers, because they find certain thoughts detrimental to their lives and/or other people.
This should be 100% protected by medical privacy and not subject to legal scrutiny.
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@Stephen
It was said in the video that when the cast were taking their breaks from filming that the Chimpanzees , Orangutans, the Gorillas and the humans would all sit at the respective species tables without them even realising they had done so, they sat down and ate with 'their own'. It was commented that it was like watching a unscheduled social experiment .
Great example.
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@zedvictor4
Nor me.So why pull down a statue?
A statue is a decoration.
If you don't like a decoration, you remove or replace it.
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@Lemming
It's hardly vital to that individual to justify their ethics.
It sounds like "it's working pretty well for me at the moment" is a de facto "justification".
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@EtrnlVw
You don't need a book to establish God exists,
GOD(S) = NOUMENON
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@Death23
Mitch's stance is clearly hypocritical, but it's not like anybody really believed him the first time. It's just so out in the open now, but when it comes to SCOTUS nominations the reputation damage is probably a small price to pay for the power of a life-long SCOTUS seat.
Yep.
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Gersonides (Levi ben Gershom, Ralbag, 1288-1344) also explains the tenth commandment as active planning (Exod 20:14):
וענין החמדה הוא שישתדל שיהיו לו, כאילו תאמר שיתן ממון לרעהו, שיגרש אשתו כדי שישאנה, או שימכור לו עבדו ואמתו ושורו וחמורו או אחד משאר קניניו, כי זאת היא תכונה רעה מאד להשתדל שיֵצאו קניני רעהו מתחת ידו אם לא יתרצה מעצמו למוכרם ולהוציאם מתחת ידו.
The meaning of “covet” is to attempt to attain something from one’s neighbor, for example, to offer him money to divorce his wife so that he can marry her, or to sell him his slave or his ox or his donkey or any other piece of his property. This is a very evil characteristic, to attempt to take away one’s neighbor’s possessions when he himself does not wish to sell them and part with them.
וכבר למדנו שהחמדה אינה בלב לבד, אבל יש עמה מעשה, ממה שאמרה התורה: ׳לא תחמֹד כסף וזהב עליהם ולקחת לך׳. ואמר עוד: ׳ולא יחמֹד איש את ארצך בעלֹתך לראות׳ — רוצה לומר שלא ישתדל איש לקחת אותה בעלותך לרגל; וכן אמר: ׳וחמדו שדות וגזלו׳.
We already know that coveting is not just in one’s heart, but that it entails some action from what is said in the Torah “you shall not covet the silver and gold on them and keep it for yourselves” (Deut 7:25). Similarly, [the Torah] says: “no one will covet your land when you go up to appear” (Exod 34:24), meaning to say, that no man will try to take it when you go up for pilgrimage. And [the Bible] says: “They covet fields, and seize them” (Micah 2:2).
ולזה לא יהיה עובר על לאו זה אם לא עשה מעשה באופן שיהיה לו הדבר שיחמוד.
Hence, we infer that one does not violate the prohibition if one does not actually do something in order to obtain the coveted object.
Thus, for Gersonides, the Rabbinic interpretation is the simple meaning of the text. In the Bible, coveting refers to the first step in the process of taking something from one’s fellow that is his/hers and not yours. Thus, it is not the flickering thought of coveting that is forbidden here, but rather when one seriously begins to plan how to actualize the sinful thought. [LINK]
And another interesting interpretation of "covet" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaFca9vZvn8
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@ludofl3x
@RoderickSpode
It's a function of in-group versus out-group and control of resources from an evolutionary perspective. Lions don't like hyenas because hyenas want the food a lion hunted. We've conquered a lot of the resource manipulation problems but the drive to discriminate against a group that isn't US remains there, and we invent reasons to indulge it.
Well stated.
Most violent crime is committed against people of the SAME COLOR.
What makes you think God hasn't instilled the need to treat others equally in all people to go along with it? This is like one of the major social issues we deal with. Of course we understand the need.
Well, apparently god(s) didn't instill ENOUGH of the magical "treat others equally" fairy dust.
Are you wondering why someone who wants equal treatment may not give equal treatment? How about selfishness?
Perhaps god(s) need to check their recipe and maybe dial back the "selfishness" powder.
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@ludofl3x
I think we can agree, racist people are assholes, and that science does not in any way support the view that any one race is superior to any other.
Conflating OPINION with FACT is the core problem.
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@swows9
What we should be more concerned about is how religions promote the concept of elitism, in other words, devotees are led to believe taht they are of a higher order than those who don't believe or are from a different religion.
Yes.
It's sort of an "OTHERISM".
On a related note, do you believe someone who completes specific physical tasks faster than their competitors is "better" than others?
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@zedvictor4
Bristol U.K.....They pulled down a racist statue and replaced it with a racist statue. D'oh!
I'm not sure a statue is capable of racism.
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@RoderickSpode
One of the problems is politics. When James Watson gave his relatively recent theory that blacks are less intelligent, than other races, the scientific community responded with counter-evidence to this claim. But, they also rendered him a racist. Do you see the problem there?
Yes.
I see the problem.
The problem is ASSIGNING a LABEL to someone without their consent.
Individuals have a fundamental (ontological) right to NAME THEMSELVES (AND) LABEL THEMSELVES.
THIS IS A CORE ASPECT OF PERSONAL SOVEREIGNTY.
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@RoderickSpode
Ludo Feels that religion is dangerous. Do you think religion itself is dangerous? Or, was it a quirk in human nature that lead to early European theocratic persecutions similar to scientific racism?
IDEAS themselves are not DANGEROUS.
People should be free to believe whatever flat-earth/climate-change/santa-claus/easter-bunny mumbo-jumbo they wish.
This is FUNDAMENTAL.
THOUGHT =/= CRIME
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@secularmerlin
You seem to have the right idea.
RICH = BRIGHT
POOR = DIM
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@secularmerlin
...we would have to discuss both the relative value of intelligence and which yard stick we propose to use t ol make this determination.
100%
I agree with you the "race" angle is a non-starter.
However, the idea that "intelligence" is genetic (AND) "intelligence" makes you "better" seems insidiously pervasive.
RICH = GOOD
POOR = BAD
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@RoderickSpode
Up until now I wasn't inquiring as to whether or not their bias would be unlawful. I was just asking if they were biased.
SAMPLE BIAS IS UNIFORM.
NO HUMAN CAN ESCAPE.
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@RoderickSpode
In your opinion, is the Empire State Building a product of intelligent design?
Excellent point.
No natural science class on earth currently teaches architecture.
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