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@Greyparrot
Colorado would have standing as it has a duty to protect its citizens.
not everyone everywhere at all times
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Kinda like how Trump fully repaying a European bank was zero quantifiable material harm to New York?
any technical violation of the law within the jurisdiction of new york state can be prosecuted by that state
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@MAV99
Are you saying I am the same as was what is not me? What are you trying to ask here?
you are the sum of your influences
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@Sidewalker
Perhaps your anger is directed at the transgender community because you feel excluded.
interesting hypothesis
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@ADreamOfLiberty
but that doesn't mean things didn't get worse.
who exactly is the victim in your proposed metaphor ?
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@MAV99
That is not true. If you know God exists, then you can reason to those things by which a God could, would, should, etc reveal Himself.
please be slightly more specific
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@MAV99
I disagree with Spinosa for this reason.
the logic is as follows
(IFF) omniscient omnipotent creator = exist (THEN) everything that exists = omniscient omnipotent creator
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@MAV99
the word itself literally means "without theism"
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@ADreamOfLiberty
for reasons (A), (B), and (C)
i'm pretty certain all of those things were happening long before the term "gender identity"
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@ADreamOfLiberty
For instance there is a presumption that anyone who violates any criminal statute has injured the public. That's why the court case is THE STATE vs THE ACCUSED. Yet for some reason you thought there would be no legal standing for West Virginia to prosecute Obama for murder.
zero quantifiable material harm to the state of west virginia
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@RaymondSheen
The problem with ideology is that it becomes stagnant and self destructive.
sounds like you're describing religion
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@RaymondSheen
Of course they do! Their idea is to destroy ideas.
so, there are no atheist engineers or inventors ?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
One lunatic claiming he is a god is a problem for that lunatic and a few others who interact with him. 50,000 people claiming the lunatic is a god is a problem for a whole lot more than 50,000 people.
what's the hypothetical "worst case scenario"
for people "misgendering" themselves ?
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@MAV99
I have not actually found any solid atheistic arguments.
let's start from the other side
by far the strongest argument for DEISM is spinoza
ETHICA ORDINE GEOMETRICO DEMONSTRATA
but even if you accept this as obviously 100% true
there is absolutely no path to any particular flavor of THEISM
and since a DEIST is NOT a THEIST
you could reasonably define ATHEIST as simply "not a theist"
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@ADreamOfLiberty
When it can't identify reality, there is no chance for the rest.
so i guess you think christians are a serious problem
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@RaymondSheen
suppression of ideas in favor of materialism
do materialists really have no ideas ?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
but if they start to say things like "that piece of silicone makes me a nursing mother" or "that piece of gold makes me a god" there is a problem.
how, how is this a serious problem ?
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@Amber
Make parents actually parent and provide emotional stability to their kids.Get back to teaching the basics like in scouts: camping, starting a fire, living off the land, firearm (hunting) training.Make sports competitive as well as education vs everyone getting a damn participation trophy.Kids need to learn success as well as failure and learn from the latter, not cry about it and seek other losers who cry when they lose and create alternate realities (alphabet soup) to make themselves feel better.
this is a genius plan
how do we enforce it ?
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@Amber
Emotional discomfort is all it is. People as of late are simply emotionally (psychologically) damaged. Most leaning towards the alphabet soup (namely trans, nonbinary, etc.) have been emotionally damaged. Mental and/or physical abuse. Sexual abuse. Torment of some kind. They feel despondent. Detached. Peers aren't understanding, so they find a group that would and that group is part of the alphabet soup with open arms to corrupt a new member into believing a fake reality because none of them can accept the real word (reality).
let's make psychological damage illegal
that will fix everything
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@Amber
First, by making it socially, legally, and culturally completely unacceptable. In other words, ZERO tolerance policy.
so, no women wearing men's clothing ?
no women doing men's jobs ?
this is a very interesting idea
please tell me more
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@Sidewalker
I am at a loss to understand why anybody gives a damn and am truly mystified by how many people get all bunged up about it.
same with gay marriage
if it's not happening to you personally, it's none of your business
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@Mall
How do we fix this to avoid the dysphoria cases?
how exactly is this considered a "crisis" ?
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@zedvictor4
I'm doubtful that there is an alternative,
agreed
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@MAV99
I try to focus on what is not me.
how can you not be simply the product of your biology and environment ?
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@Mall
Are you an atheist?
deist monist taoist
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@zedvictor4
Which was only meant to consider the process of internal consideration.Wherein logic and engineering are not necessarily applicable.
link skips to the important bit
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@ADreamOfLiberty
legal standing is perfectly logical and easily determinedYou think so huh?Then why is this a question:also, why would west virginia care at all about drone strikes ??
the question illustrates my point
what part of "legal standing" do you think is problematic ?
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@Double_R
if this is true then Biden can do whatever the hell he wants.
bingo
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@ADreamOfLiberty
So you believe in "legal standing" but not "qualified immunity" when both are arbitrary inventions of courts.
legal standing is perfectly logical and easily determined
"qualified immunity" is amorphous and idiotic
also, why would west virginia care at all about drone strikes ??
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@ADreamOfLiberty
So should West Virginia be allowed to convict Obama or not?
west virginia would have no legal standing unless they were the victims of the drone strikes
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@ADreamOfLiberty
If there is no shield, why can't West Virginia go after Obama for drone strikes? Why can't Brian Kemp be put on trial for breach of duty? The mayor of Seattle for sedition?
Decades ago the Supreme Court created the doctrine of qualified immunity to protect government officials when they faced lawsuits for violations of constitutional rights. At the time, the Court wrote that the doctrine was not meant to be a “license to lawless conduct.” But over the years qualified immunity has expanded and, in some states, officials who act outside their authority have even been allowed to escape lawsuits.
In New Mexico, an officer received qualified immunity even though he was off-duty and he was criminally convicted for how he treated an innocent man. In Minnesota, a traffic engineer received qualified immunity after he detained truck drivers for hours even though he had no authority to make arrests. Both decisions are being appealed to higher federal courts. The details of both cases demonstrate clear abuse of power, abuse that should not be ignored.
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@Double_R
So in order for that hypothetical to even occur we’re already imagining a corrupt administration, and the remedy for this is to ensure these future corrupt administrations cannot be prosecuted?
phenomenal analysis
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@Benjamin
- didn't know about
any moral framework that actively incentivizes ignorance is clearly on the right track
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@Benjamin
But calling the police to prevent a murder is an example of a situation where none of these criteria apply. You have no excuse for actively chosing to allow a murder.
most people refuse to give police witness statements in murder cases
because they don't like being murdered
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@Benjamin
I am talking morally speaking. If you could prevent a murder without incurring yourself harm, but CHOSE to be passive instead, then you are MORALLY CULPABLE in my view.
ok, that's an interesting view
the only problem is that
this moral framework makes YOU personally responsible for every crime you COULD HAVE prevented
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@Best.Korea
I learn a lot, but my goals didnt really change, ever.
let me guess, is it "world domination" ?
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@Best.Korea
I think my mind is too great to be affected by any circumstance,
that is a very interesting self-conception,
does this mean you never learn anything ?
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@zedvictor4
Philosophically, everything depends upon how one looks at it.
except for logic and engineering
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@Critical-Tim
Can humans truly act selflessly?
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@Benjamin
So if a stranger is getting murdered, and you did not call the police, then you are not morally culpable for the murder being successful? I don't think so. Passivity is also a choice.
In most cases, people are under no legal duty to report a crime. “Failure to report a crime” is generally not a crime in and of itself. This is true even if someone: knew about the criminal activity in advance, witnessed the commission of a crime while it unfolded or took place, and/or; learned of the offense after it took place.
why do you think it's often so difficult for cops to take witness statements ?
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@secularmerlin
There is no sufficient evidence of any god(s). One cannot say that no god(s) could exist (that is a black swan fallacy) but many god claims can be dismissed as logically contradictory.
bingo
a better question might be "what are the necessary parameters of something that could both exist AND be considered a god(s)"
also,
ETHICA ORDINE GEOMETRICO DEMONSTRATA
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@cristo71
Basically, if your moral code is more compelling, you align with that, but if your personal feelings are more compelling, you acquiesce to those?
PRIMAL ETHICS
(1) PROTECT YOURSELF
(2) PROTECT YOUR FAMILY
(3) PROTECT YOUR PROPERTY
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@Greyparrot
communism is always systemic oppression
not ALWAYS
Anarcho-communism, also known as anarchist communism, is the belief that hierarchies, money, and social classes should not exist, and that the means of production should be held in common by society.[1][2] Anarcho-communists support direct democracy and a network of voluntary associations, workers' councils, decentralized economic planning and a gift economy in which everyone will be free to satisfy their needs.
Some well-known anarcho-communist writers are Peter Kropotkin, Ricardo Flores Magón and Nestor Makhno. Anarcho-communism is opposed to the more authoritarian forms of communism advocated by Leninists and Maoists. These groups have violently clashed in Russia, Korea and Spain over their beliefs. Some examples of anarcho-communism in practice include the Makhnovshchina, Shinmin Autonomous Region, and the Revolutionary Spain.
Some well-known anarcho-communist writers are Peter Kropotkin, Ricardo Flores Magón and Nestor Makhno. Anarcho-communism is opposed to the more authoritarian forms of communism advocated by Leninists and Maoists. These groups have violently clashed in Russia, Korea and Spain over their beliefs. Some examples of anarcho-communism in practice include the Makhnovshchina, Shinmin Autonomous Region, and the Revolutionary Spain.
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@n8nrgim
If there's a train going at 5 and all u have to do is pull a lever where it changes course and kills only 1... it's immoral not to pull the lever even tho ur action resulted in someone's death
which moral framework are you subscribing to when drawing this conclusion ?
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@n8nrgim
I think they boil down to whether the ends don't justify the means, or whether proportionalism is moral. I think dogmatism goes too far with trolley problems and things like terrorists and torture and abortion etc
the implicit premise here is that all humans value every other individual human equally
and the obvious fact of the matter is that implicit premise is provably false
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@Benjamin
I won't choose either one, but hide and do nothing, let the track decide. The survivor should not feel any guilt from knowing that their life came at somebody else's expense.
this is the solution to EVERY "trolley problem"
you are NOT morally culpable for acts that you did not initiate
and you are only obligated to protect individuals you are legally responsible for
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the hypothesis hypothesis
I have spent lot of years mainly figuring out what myself and this reality is all about. I've questioned everything I thought I knew about myself and reality. By doing so I constantly became more and more clear about my own conditioning and belief-systems. I saw that every belief I had was just that: a belief that I had taken for granted but that had actually nothing to do with the truth. In fact I've come to see that every belief I had was like a filter in front of truth. Truth isn't something mind can grasp, it's actually the very opposite, everything mind thinks it understands actually takes it that much further from the truth.
So I was questioning everything about reality and saw that eventually even the concept of material universe was just a hypothesis. All we can know for certain is our experience and the phenomenon it contains. Everything outside our experience is hypothesis, even the concrete nature of the universe.
But even more than that I figured out my own ego and belief systems I had about myself as a person. That seemed more relevant at the time. I was always puzzled by the idea that my past life dictates who I am. That would mean that if I were to born in completely different circumstances I would became a completely different person. I could never buy that, I felt that essentially I should be the same regardless of the circumstances. Difference is only in the accumulated beliefs and conditioning and I thought if I could get past those I would find my true core being.
So I continued to go deeper into myself and then in one ordinary day when I was sitting in a car and figuring these things as usual something happened. I suddenly felt total freedom, my issues with self esteem and self-confidence were suddenly gone, it felt instantly like there is no going back. It wasn't like I got suddenly perfect self-esteem and confidence, but experimentally those two words lost their meaning completely. All the subconscious stress about how I have to perform in life etc. were gone instantly, I felt I was free from all the concepts. I see the reason for that to happen was that my mind didn't anymore identify with any of those thoughts that made me a person of certain kind and that also ultimately made me uncertain about myself. My self esteem and feeling about myself was gradually getting better while in the middle of this process but that milestone was something I didn't anticipate.
And what does this story of my life have to do with free will? It is because how I experience it has changed from what it used to be. Before when I fully identified with my past and thought I knew what kind of person I am based on that, I had a sense of "free will" because I identified with the conditioning from which basis the choices are made. I identified myself as the maker of those choices. That event somewhat changed my identity from the doer to the witness, or to be clearer it kind of contains both aspects simultaneously now. So in my experience "I" don't have that identity as a clear cut entity that makes the choices anymore. I am more anchored in the present moment were there are no choices to be made, nor is there a maker of those choices.
Things just flow naturally and events follow each other. Of course there still seems to be this person who "chooses" to write this post, but it is like in the flower example: does a flower choose to bloom or is it just the flow of life that happens naturally?
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@Benjamin
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