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@WyIted
You didn't watch my video I clearly already proved my case
i watched it twice
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@Double_R
More importantly though is that you seem to be arguing that this is bad because it means the person who gets the most most votes in the first round doesn't always win. Not only is that not an argument against RCV, it's the entire point. If candidate A has the full support of 40% of the population while 60% of the population do not want candidate A and can't decide between candidates B and C, then whoever is more popular between B and C should take power. It's a far more representative result then letting A take power because neither B or C was willing to step aside.
well stated
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@WyIted
So now your issue is that we would have to many choices?Correct. More choices lead to less informed voters
single choice voting does not make people "more informed"
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@Double_R
If you only made 2 or 3 choices and none of them made it past those rounds it's because your preferred candidates were not popular enough to win. That's the exact same thing that happens now
bingo
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@Double_R
Ranked choice voting is clearly better in every way.
100% THIS
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@420-1776
Birthing a kid and setting that kid up for adoption is going to cost the taxpayers a lot of money
please explain
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@Moozer325
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@Mall
Yeah the atheist decided to believe the bird doesn't exist actually without evidence, same belief system on the flip side.
the positive claim demands evidence
there is plenty of evidence that the bird does not exist
i've never seen the bird
and in fact
among the people who claim to have seen the bird
the descriptions are obviously contradictory
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@prefix
It appears that he is saying that socialism is where if nobody owns something, then everybody owns it, but mainly the government owns it and you don't. (???).
this is not what i'm saying
Social ownership can take various forms, including public, community, collective, cooperative, or employee.
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@Owen_T
This forum is to post whether or not you're religious, why you think that, and if you are, why you believe your religion is the best and most probable religion.
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@Owen_T
This is a question I've been thinking about recently, but honestly, I don't think there is a right answer. What are your opinions on this?
just restrict the federal government to the role outlined in the united states constitution
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@420-1776
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@Mall
the theist is basically saying, i saw a rare bird and furthermore that means we should follow the teachings of this old book
the atheist is basically saying, i never saw the rare bird you speak of and i'm not going to believe you until you show me some evidence
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@prefix
Your definition of "socialism" is too broad and therefore lacks both utility and sound reasoning.
"socialism" is a system of ownership - - ownership distributed to the citizens
in the same way "democracy" is supposed to be - - rule by the people
if the government oppresses the citizens and hoards resources
they are not "socialist"
EVEN IF THEY CALL THEMSELVES "SOCIALIST"
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@Mall
Neither. All you have to take away is that theists are religious as atheists.
not equivalent claims
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@prefix
Therefore then you do agree that socialism is a necessary precursor to fascism.
we agree that it is the function of government to manage public capital for the benefit of all citizens
do you think it would be fair to say that all governments are implicitly "socialist" ?
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@MarkWebberFan2
that sounds intelligent
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@Best.Korea
People have evolved way past that.
some have moments when they have "evolved"
and some have not
an ethical code must be universal
which means it must apply to everyone
including "the lowest common denominator"
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@WyIted
ending birthright-citizenship seems a bit extreme
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@zedvictor4
PRIMAL ETHICS
(1) PROTECT YOURSELF
(2) PROTECT YOUR FAMILY
(3) PROTECT YOUR PROPERTY
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@Tejretics
SELF-MODERATED DEBATE IS VASTLY SUPERIOR
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@420-1776
well, one thing is for sure, i'm not going to be eating tuna again anytime soon
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@Mall
As far as the ones that are the exception, they are just as religious as any atheist.
are you suggesting claims of "objectivity" are "more-religious" or "less-religious" ?
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@Mall
Negative is what is labeled when the positive is not detected. Keyword detected. Not talking about what is present.
you haven't detected bigfootlochnessspacealiens
does that mean
there are no bigfootlochnessspacealiens ?
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@prefix
Do you agree with the statement in #70 above?
sure, if you add #71
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@MarkWebberFan2
Rent is half each, but all of the apartment decor are pretty much hers. I do the housework. Chores are never shared, but she does want a predictable routine from me which i don't seem to do well. I do change the decor from time to time and i never buy my own.
ok, that does sort of change the landscape of the situation
i've always been in a position where i pretty much pay for 100% of everything
but of course, that doesn't keep my partner from making ridiculous demands
it's important to "stand-up-for-yourself" sometimes, but not always
try to "pick-your-battles"
if this kitchen thing is important to you, stick to your guns
maybe buy your own dishes and only use those
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i almost didn't watch this because i thought it would just be repeating things i already knew
boy was i wrong
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@prefix
if roads are privatized, they become capital
if water and power utilities are privatized, they become capital
if public land becomes privatized, it becomes capital
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@MarkWebberFan2
But when I said “no” to her, she became cold and refused to even indulge in our relationship.
it sounds like she's the one paying rent and buying the kitchen supplies
is this the case ?
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@prefix
So now back to how fascism needs socialism as a necessary precursor.
managing resources for the benefit of all citizens is the goal of "state-socialism"
manages resources that affect 100% of the citizenrymaintains infrastructure that affects 100% of the citizenry
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@Best.Korea
@Savant
Steel-man Best.Korea's argument in this debate:
there are a few ways to attack this
(1) THBT YOU CAN'T CONVINCE ME THAT I'M EVER WRONG
(2) THBT THE OMNISCIENT OMNIPOTENT CREATOR NEVER MAKES MISTAKES
(3) THBT I AM THE VOICE OF THE OMNISCIENT OMNIPOTENT CREATOR
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@cristo71
the legality of an act doesn't matter if there is no enforcement mechanism
The Central Intelligence Agency was still defending, as late as last year, a 2005 decision by Gina Haspel and her former boss, Jose Rodriguez, to destroy videos of CIA torture at a black site Haspel oversaw, according to previously unpublished documents obtained by ThinkProgress.
Remarkably, the CIA argued that it did not need to preserve videotapes of its “enhanced interrogations” — torture sessions with suspects that involved methods like wall slams, confinement boxes, and waterboarding — because they were like formal government meetings, and therefore less stringent guidelines applied when it came to preserving records of such a “meeting.”
President Donald Trump nominated Haspel as CIA director last week. She was a “strong advocate” for destroying the torture tapes, a former CIA officers told The New York Times, and she reportedly sent the Nov. 8, 2005, memo that approved their destruction.
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@prefix
To clarify, on a MACRO level, a good government serves all citizens, but not each individual citizen.
what percentage do you think qualifies as "good government"
do you think perhaps that serving 90% of citizens is "better government" than serving 51% of citizens ?
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@Mall
Do you mean a theist claims what they're saying is objectively true?
generally, yes
specifically regarding moral claims
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@Mall
There are cases whereby a negative can be proven.
0 - 1 = -1
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@prefix
the concern really comes down to how the citizenry is impacted
it sounds like you're saying "the government serves the citizens"
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@IwantRooseveltagain
The director of the film says black womenfolk get more abortions because they are poor, not because they are black.
still disproportionate
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@MarkWebberFan2
She's a bit more like an INTJ.
i'd consider asking her to take the test and check the result with her
women seem to like it when you "want to get to know them better"
also
there's one thing to keep in mind when taking the test
take the test with the idea of how you would answer "when you are comfortable and with friends" and keep that score as #1
take the test again with the idea of how you would answer "when you're at a new job and around strangers" and keep that score as #2
your "type" is not usually going to be a "static object"
we tend towards certain generalized solutions, but we all adjust to our environments to some degree
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@WyIted
So you can say you are helping teen mothers but when a study comes out showing how the welfare state creates more teen mothers and actually harms them, well then we know what your actual evil intent is
i guess it's better just to let them be malnourished and neglected and poorly educated by underfunded public schools
i'm still not clear on your logic here
how do programs that support single mothers "harm them" ?
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@MarkWebberFan2
I'd say around 95% of my personality is close to an INFP.
did you notice your percentages on each characteristic ?
i'm between 78% and 100% on all four - -
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@MarkWebberFan2
it looks like we both suck at judging people LOL.
rushing to judgement is overrated
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@WyIted
That whole article does acknowledge the movement within the black community, but they are focused on the movement and how they interpret Sanger's history.The real argument is that 50% of black people are murdered before they are born. That is the intent. You can always look at what something accomplishes to know the intent and it accomplishes killing black people in disproportionate numbers.
i've seen a lot of heated debates on the topic
and for some reason
this never seems to be at the top of the pro-life fact sheet
i wonder if the rabid conservatives would like to fund programs to help underprivileged single mothers
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Made it easier to outlaw abortion. 50% of blacks are aborted before they are even born so this is the first step at ending the silent black genocideUnbelievable. You can’t be serious. What idiot gave you this ridiculous factnoid
“Abortion as black genocide”:
inside the black anti-abortion movement
A new documentary examines how fears of “black genocide” became part of mainstream anti-abortion activism.
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@ebuc
There can only exist five, and only five, regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra of Universe.
who cares ?
is someone arguing with you about this ?
what exactly is the counter-claim ?
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@ebuc
There is no valid counter argument to the truths I ve presented to you.
because you have presented no argument
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@prefix
do you think it might be fair to say a government exists to enhance the wellbeing of all citizens ?NO.
ok, forget about "capitalism" and "socialism" and "communism" and "fascism" for a brief moment
on what merits
would you evaluate
one type of government
over another ?
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@ebuc
PLease share if you have evidence or argument that invalidates my comment, as presented.
your statement is not an ARGUMENT
therefore
there is no, and can be no counter-ARGUMENT
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@MarkWebberFan2
I'd say around 95% of my personality is close to an INFP.
what about your gf ?
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