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@Greyparrot
Oh the bee, sarcasm is dangerous when distilled to that concentration.
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@Greyparrot
NO INCOME TAX As He Nears 2024 WIN
I don't actually believe that will happen, the deep state agents in congress won't let it; but it is encouraging that radical suggestions are being normalized.
Anyone can tell I have a very dim view of government but that suggestion and the kind of people Trump has implied he would rely upon are simply too good to be believed.
Elon Musk, a man who whatever his faults, starts projects others are afraid to and makes them work where others fail even when they're following his path. It is extremely unlikely that he is a bad engineer or physicist, at least compared to the rabble who occupy the government offices now. He's read Rand and in many ways he's as close to a Atlas Shrugged hero as the real world is ever going to get.
Sure he started off trying to solve a non-existent problem of carbon dioxide, but he was smart enough to realize that the people pushing that hoax don't actually want it to be solved in a way that let's humanity stay prosperous and free. AND he was honest enough to point that out.
RFK is saying a lot of things that I had previously associated with psuedoscientific fads, but now after we've seen the covid madness I've got more trust in the people he would tap to research than the people in a three letter federal agency. His open desire to hobble the CIA, FBI, and end the empire of secrecy that probably accounts for the majority of the deep state's institutional power is of utmost importance.
Tulsi Gabbard has been a martyr for honesty and her provocative new idea of "not bombing everyone but pretending nothing is happening" definitely something that needs to be mainstreamed.
Although not offered and official position his support for people like Vivek and Kari Lake makes me hopeful that he's learned how to identify the squawking of deep state plants vs real outsiders.
I can only hope that these people pave the way for ever more radical characters. Potentially culminating in a government so wise and honest that it actually follows the constitution and the average liberty recovers to 1890s levels and even improves.
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The investigation involves around 2,500 voter registration applications dropped off last week at two separate times, shortly before Pennsylvania's voter registration deadline.
Adams said of the applications that have been examined, 60% were fraudulent. She said the remainder should be examined by the end of Friday.
Amazing what you find when you actually follow the law and perform canvases. That's 1500 attempted fraudulent ballots.
Plug "60%" into the estimate expressions earlier in this thread. See how that goes.
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Funniest part about that is the "election officials" trying to reassure people "don't worry, they didn't tamper with the ballots before they were burned". Joy, I guess that means everything is fine!
I'll start keeping a running tab of the direct examples of discovered fraud (and yes burning ballots is in the same boat, it is intentional inaccuracy) and we can talk about the statistics they imply after the 2024 election.
Definite fraud:
+1500 PA
+20 AZ
Directly cast into doubt:
+All definite fraud
+1000-5000 (dozen boxes) MN (see second part of https://rumble.com/v5jyr4c-someone-torched-ballots-in-az-arsonist-ignites-mailbox-2024-election-alread.html)
Indirectly cast into doubt (statistics):
Waiting for the election and some investigation
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@Double_R
The fact that you think the people need to be protected from their elected agent of change is undemocratic.And yet it's literally built into the constitution. See 14th amendment.
Schedule F does not repeal the 14th amendment.
The question is: Who in the executive branch should (according to the constitution) be immune from termination by the leader of the executive branch?The objective answer is: No one.
Government of for and by the people:
Yes, but apparently you can admit that before being elected and still lock them up. You just have to give a different excuse in the court filings and make the court favorable court stacking or venue shopping.See "Get Trump".Yeah, were back to "Trump did nothing wrong". Hording classified documents ...
yea yea bla bla bla, that's what we'll say about your people. You won't believe it and we won't care. Moving on.
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@Double_R
rofl, protect the unelected from the elected.The fact that you think the people need to be protected from career civil servants
The fact that you think the people need to be protected from their elected agent of change is undemocratic.
If these are not the people you're referring to then who specifically?
I'll figure that out if and when Trump hires me full time and gives me military special forces so I can capture data repositories of "the intelligence community" (the deep state).
In the mean time that is not the question. The question is: Who in the executive branch should (according to the constitution) be immune from termination by the leader of the executive branch?
The objective answer is: No one. The parts of the government POTUS can't restructure is well defined. It's the legislature and the judiciary.
Donald Trump is not "the people"
He's closer than those unelected bureaucrats.
and yes, they should absolutely fear the prospect of him coming back into power
Useless petty tyrants ought to fear for their ill gotten salaries.
Like the mandate that he will use the military and DOJ to go after his political opponentsDomestic enemies of the constitution.Or as Donald Trump would translate that: democrats along with anyone who disagrees with him or talks about him unfavorably.
Yes, but apparently you can admit that before being elected and still lock them up. You just have to give a different excuse in the court filings and make the court favorable court stacking or venue shopping.
See "Get Trump".
Then all your brainwashed zombies are distributed instructions which prevent them from seeing the obvious corruption. "no one is above the law" "precedent is not necessary" and so on.
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@Double_R
Schedule F is democracy in actionThere is a reason we purposefully built into our system of government protections for civil servants from the top layers of our government. It's to ensure our government is working for the people, not the dear leader.
rofl, protect the unelected from the elected. It's [managed] democracy (tm).
Haven't you learned that gaslighting doesn't work here? (mainly because the only four people who aren't constantly joking can see right through it).
You're talking about doctors working in our health agencies, scientists working at agencies like the FDA, meteorologists working at NOAA, etc.
No, that's the extreme minority of government bureaucrats.
They don't wake up everyday figuring out how to conspire with each other to run some shadowy government
Then we have nothing to fear from them and they have nothing to fear from us (the people).
A president cannot (legally) ignore the constitution by executive order, but he can (legally) and should reorder the executive branch to suit the mandate of the people which he represents.Like the mandate that he will use the military and DOJ to go after his political opponents
Domestic enemies of the constitution. I'm sure something on the books can be made to fit, people are so creative these days.
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@Double_R
He won't be doing it, it will be the people he surrounds himself with, which will be night and day different from the people he surrounded himself with in 2017. Everyone knows this, and Trump isn't even trying to pretend otherwise.
So just how the deep state works, except not the deep state; so therefore dangerous and dictatorial.
Schedule F is democracy in action. These entrenched government bureaucrats span the range from misguided and useless to a malicious warmongering war-profiting power mad shadow government.
A president cannot (legally) ignore the constitution by executive order, but he can (legally) and should reorder the executive branch to suit the mandate of the people which he represents.
To not understand this by this point is a choice.
I say that about you constantly.
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You know I've always found satanism to be incredibly cringe, and you might chalk that up to childhood indoctrination; but when I see stuff like this I think I can sum it up logically:
If you don't believe in judeo-christian theology, then why would you pull out the villain of the story to worship?
It's like saying "No LOTR isn't real but I worship Morgoth".
It is non-sensical as a belief system (which many belief systems are) but it compounds with the non-sense of Christianity itself. Silliness wrapped in more silliness.
I have to strongly suspect that anyone who does it is a self-repressed christian losing their sanity trying to rebel against their own subconscious, either that or they live to troll Christians.
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@Double_R
Think a little harder. What was the implication of the fact.Well it certainly wasn't implying anything about law and order.
You're wrong about that.
He was explaining to you how the broadcast system works since you apparently didn't understand it
I was leading a horse to water.
as demonstrated by your downplaying of Trump's veiled threat to take away ABC's license by pretending news channels don't need a license.
Pretending? So they do need a license?
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@Greyparrot
Pelosi sure does :)It's not really gambling for the people who control the system. Think of it as a house advantage.
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@Greyparrot
I was actually talking about the stock market. A subset of all gambling.I fully admit speculating on election futures is pure gambling
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@DavidAZZ
However, this actually makes me want to do some homework and ask some other investors what they think.
I would like to point out that it's to a great degree a zero sum game.
Precisely: dividends are not the primary reason stock traders buy stock. They buy stock in the hopes that they will predict the fickle and irrational market of other stock traders better than the other stock traders and thereby gain at their expense.
It's not exactly high stakes poker but it's got a lot in common with it.
My point? A large majority of these people are not economic experts in any honest sense of the phrase. They're experts in the psychology of other people like them and if that's what you're interested in, sure talk to one; otherwise learn about the economic activity you think is being underestimated.
P.S. I know "investor" is not identical to "stock broker" but many people don't seem to understand that and many stock gamblers describe their activity as "investment" to their clients (which they call investors).
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TDS has been described and diagnosis in this case is clear. Do not attempt to help, there is no cure.
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@Mharman
TDS has been described, there is no cure; do not attempt to help them they can be a danger to themselves and others.
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@WyIted
I know you guys are used to hearing arguments from the democrats on this site who are frankly uninformed idiots.
They rarely actually make arguments. They just assert often.
If we assume both are a threat than the question is who succeeds at ending democracy first?
The better question who whether there is a chance for democracy if one side vs the other wins.
For example if Nazis won the Battle of Britain, that wouldn't be a chance for peace or justice. That would lay the foundation for more death and suffering. If Trump becomes emperor of a digital fascist state mandating the apotheosis of his dynasty and theocratic law (the worst scenario that is within a lightyear of realism), how is that so much worse than a digital fascist state which continues to destroy the prosperity of the world and uses control all avenues of communication and information to maintain a constant state of ideological fervor over utterly petty non-issues like trans bathrooms.
The worst is no worse, but the vast distribution of outcomes where Trump and MAGA win are far better than the alternative.
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Well summarized by Mr. Whatley:
Deleting dropbox surveillance footage while there is a pending FOIA request for it is an assault on transparency. This breach of trust is exactly what reduces confidence in our elections. We will hold Detroit accountable, as this secrecy has no place in a fair and secure Election. -RNC Chairman Michael Whatley
TL;DR: democrat operative caught on camera meddling with a drop box. Recall that inspecting election equipment AFTER the ballots were counted in Georgia was precisely that thing which the left-tribe deep-state fascists called "a conspiracy against democracy" when Trump and his lawyers did it.
Suddenly "I was just making sure it was safe" works as an excuse.
Tim Pool also does a fair job explaining why mass fraud does not require a massive conspiracy.
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@Double_R
They don't license opinions, they license frequencies, we are talking about regulating the airwaves, not ideas.Uh huh. Law and order, bla bla bla, nobody is above the law; not even ABC rofl!Note Howe he just gave you a factual response
Think a little harder. What was the implication of the fact.
It's not it's own medicine, it's the medicine right wing hacks invented through their delusions and false equivalences, all born out of projection.
Translation: but what you haven't taken into account is that you're completely wrong about everything.
Case closed I guess. Back at you.
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@ludofl3x
Those with zero expertise cannot make rational judgements even about who is an expert.It closed at 30K on 12/31/20, it's currently up 25% under Biden.
Take the above for example. 30K in real value or nominal?
If it's up 25% in USD that means less than nothing because the USD value is down 25%+.
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@Best.Korea
If you don't like a vegetable chances are you aren't cooking it correctly.Yeah, spinach is horrible.
Yes I know you're trolling, how? You're typing.
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@cristo71
Also no evidence that anyone in this world would imitate a washed up senile war mongering deep-state-profiting dishonorable traditionalist.So, no evidence to back up your claim that Mitch is voting against Trump?
It has been to my great pleasure that MAGA has responded to the news of the Cheney's 'defection' with "Tell a friend the good news."
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@Sidewalker
and if he were alive, so would Ronald Reagan.
Running a seance? That's better; fully fortified in your clown makeup again.
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@Sidewalker
What an awkward retreat. You should be more careful to stick to the clown act.
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@Sidewalker
He has repeatedly stated that media organizations that reported on him unfavorably should lose their license.*laughs in poetic justice*He who lives by the sword, dies by it. Why are there government issued licenses to express opinion?They don't license opinions, they license frequencies, we are talking about regulating the airwaves, not ideas.
Uh huh. Law and order, bla bla bla, nobody is above the law; not even ABC rofl!
It's not 'punishment' for 1st amendment protected activity just a happy little accident. Remember what we've learned from Double R, it doesn't matter if there is no precedent. Doesn't matter if no lawyer thought the government could legally act this way before. No none of that matters, just business as usual move along citizen.
This is a preview BTW of the zero fucks I'm going to give if (and it is only a hope) the left tribe gets a taste of its own medicine.
Poetic justice does feel good, but there is also a practical purpose. When you punch someone back, they tend to be much more open to a "no punching rule"; or more aptly they tend to remember that we already had a "no punching" rule that they broke and maybe that was a bad idea.
making interference and disruption into a "right" would pretty much render the broadcast system inoperable
Yep there we go, narrowly tailored government interest and all that jazz; stack the supreme court and it just remains an open secret that it's revenge. Just like all of Elon Musk's companies just happen to be running into regulatory problems apparently in direct proportion to his public redpilling. Correlation only means causation for carbon dioxide vs global temperatures, not government assaults on liberty vs dissent from the deep state narrative. It is sometimes hard to remember all the double standards.
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@Double_R
He has repeatedly stated that media organizations that reported on him unfavorably should lose their license.
*laughs in poetic justice*
He who lives by the sword, dies by it. Why are there government issued licenses to express opinion?
Seems to me that the concept of a "license" and a "right" are mutually exclusive.
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@Double_R
That right there illustrates why we can't see eye to eye on anything.
You might see my eyes if yours weren't closed.
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@Greyparrot
Within their cult they have no sense of relative probability. You see FLRW could have used Trump's divorces as example of unchristian behavior. Nobody denies those. Instead he uses accusations that have never been proven. I am sure he is not even aware of the difference.
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@Best.Korea
I knew before I met you.Not my logic.Oh okay, but its wrong logic, so now you know that its wrong logic.
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@Best.Korea
Not my logic.That does not follow.Great, so your logic of "doing something which fascists did = makes you fascist" doesnt follow.
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@Double_R
Oh really, tell me all about the historical significance of economic fascism in 1930's Germany.
Sure, let's start with the context in which it was brought up in this thread:
[GP] You failed to note Germany was slipping into 3rd world living conditions when Hitler took power.[Double_R] Because it's irrelevant.
I could write pages on this but that's not necessary because summary is not oversimplification in this case.
1.) People without bread are desperate people. Desperate people do desperate things and are at their most malleable philosophically. It's not a coincidence that just about every saint, sage, and savior's origin story starts at a point of extreme suffering or anxiety.
2.) Desperation is a state of mind and to the degree people have irrational or skewed value systems being "without bread" does not need to literally mean on the verge of starvation.
3.) To people who are used to high civilization (such as the German people) and certainly American people today, being without coffee can be enough to penetrate the comfortable haze of disengagement. As per (1) the kind of people whose first entrance into politics is born of deprivation are intrinsically more radical, dangerous, and ignorant than those who participate in politics due to a philosophical persuasion or some silly sense of sporting interest.
The socialist economic fallacy is that deprivation is caused by greed and greed is made possible by private ownership of the means of production. Prior to this fallacy governments still taxed, but very few people thought that taxation could every really alleviate poverty. Even as the french revolution was rewriting calendars and rededicating churches to secular rationalism they in all their radical fervor seemed to think that the reason peasants didn't have bread was government intervention and a lack of industrialization (which is far closer to the truth than anything a socialist political theory ever predicted).
All socialist theories create a vicious cycle of government steals -> government action does harm -> government steals more because of unprecedented harm. They create crises and use crises to justify further crisis-creating-behavior.
fascism is a socialist economic theory and does the same, like communism it creates its own supporters to the degree it is followed, but unlike communism it has an outward appearance of a much more subtle change.
Maoism had struggle sessions and destroyed anything that had the wrong outward appearance (while underneath things worked much as they always had minus those 60 million victims).
Economic fascism proscribes the assimilation of existing private structures like corporations, unions, universities, and newspapers. This provokes far less backlash and can sneak up on a nation much easier and critically the threshold between when you get shot for disparaging the party and when you don't is grey.
That makes it much more difficult to resist than an open communist revolution where you have an obvious choice of dying uselessly or forming an underground resistance. It tempts people to voice opposition and (initially) punishes them by moving them out of positions of influence by soft power.
If that sounds familiar it should, that is exactly what "cancel culture" and "lawfare" refer to.
By the time Italian fascists or German Nazis built the first death-camp there wasn't a single man or woman with both courage and doubt in any 'private' company bigger than a thousand employees. No banks, no newspapers, no factories, no engineering firms, no railways, no mines, no shipyards, no unions.
That kind of economic grip allowed the nazis and the fascists to have a continuum of threats for dissenters which (again) is superior in terms of purification. When people know they will lose their job most will cower, but those few brave will speak up knowing they'll only lose their job. Then they are mocked and relegated as "losers" looking to excuse their own failures.
It's easy to look at the brownshirts dragging people away and say "that's the problem" but as many have pointed out, it does not and cannot start there.
That is why economic fascism, or the economic component of fascism; is integral to fascism as a threat and a phenomenon. That is why you should have cared when laws were used in entirely novel ways against the lotus of political dissent, you should have cared when election laws were violated and evidence was ignored and suppressed, but you either agree with the fascists or you did not understand what was happening. Meanwhile they've got you dancing around crying wolf while you're riding one.
i.e. you are the threat.
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@Best.Korea
Correct.Well it's definitely something self-described fascists didFascists also ate food.
Anyone who eats food is a total fascist.
That does not follow.
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@Best.Korea
Well it's definitely something self-described fascists did. With stolen money (of course).the fascists who prove they are fascists by action.Government paying for people's healthcare is pure and total fascism.
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@WyIted
Yep Trump is a fascist I am definitely going to vote for the party who wants to censor free speech by intimidating social media companies into compliance.
Trump, the rumor mill fascist vs Kamala & Deep State, the fascists who prove they are fascists by action.
Choice is clear right?
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North Korea must know those guys are never coming back one way or another.
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@WyIted
Well that's unusually honest. That's exactly how they'll run the government too.
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@Greyparrot
The amateur historian thinks the problem with a fascist state is that a single person is in charge.No real historian believes Hitler rose to power on his own, nor was he the only person in charge.
True, he wasn't a very strong dictator like say Napoleon or Julius Caesar.
What I mean by that is that Hitler was a quasi rebellious figure, as were all of the figureheads of the axis. They would follow the figurehead so long as the figurehead stayed true to the current of the cult. A Hitler who said "I was wrong about the Jews, forget about race individual virtue is more important" would be dead or hidden away in 24 hours.
Napoleon and Caesar earned the loyalty they enjoyed through personal virtue (or at least what passed for virtue in the eyes of the people who mattered at the time) instead of ideological/religious hysteria. They had the choice to change their mind about policy and even principle without losing everything so long as they didn't prove themselves frauds.
In this way Trump and Kamala are much more like Hitler than Napoleon. They are riders on a wave that exists in the population, they don't make the wave and if they veer too far they will be swept under and lost.
Some would say that is how democracy is supposed to work, maybe, but they would also predict that Hitler could not happen in a democracy and those pesky historical facts just keep coming back to bite them. In their confusion they imagine killing baby Hitler or Trump would bring it all to a grinding halt. You kill Napoleon, you change history. You kill Hitler, Napoleon, Trump, or Kamala you only change the face of the movement and give them a martyr to boot.
I think double R is right to fear an over extension of the state via oppressive lawfare (and laws are always backed by military see Babbitt and Rodger Stone being swatted). The collapse of institutional trust makes such things inevitable whether the "good guys" are in charge or not. Why it keeps getting worse and why it started is because people like him are blind to the oppression and subversion that has already taken place.
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@Double_R
Economic fascism refers to...I don't care about what it refers to because that's not what we're talking about.
Oh it depends on how well you understand philosophy, sociology, and history.
The amateur historian thinks the problem with a fascist state is that a single person is in charge. The expert (<- see I can use the word) is much more worried about the rest of the ingredients that made fascism unique and uniquely brutal and impossible to correct for those inside of it.
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Speaking of 'homophobia', why would you not vote for the first president who entered office without asserting that marriage is between a man and a woman?
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@WyIted
I known it's about observation but it would have no way of knowing you are looking without the mind being present
No, it's about interaction and people with intent to mislead or a poor grasp of English called it "observation".
The exact same thing happens whether you or any other mind knows it happens. Just like an apple falling from a tree.
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@WyIted
The mind does not affect the double slit experiment.Because it does in any normal context. What makes something objective is that it matches to reality, so saying "subject to reality" is the one instance where it works.But the mind effects reality. See the double slit experiment
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@Greyparrot
Russian strippers, and they convinced him to be Putin's bitch.blew it on strippers
This is fully fact checked. Once Herr Mueller begins his information counter-attack and releases the overwhelming proof everything will stabilize.
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@Double_R
I really hate to break it to you, but we already live in a fascist economy where the state largely controls what private industry can produce through countless crony regulations and subsidies. You worry about a descent to a place where we are already at.Google fascism and let me know when you want to have a real conversation instead of this silly game of just throwing shit at the walls to see what you can get away with.
He seems to be more informed than you. Economic fascism is tight cooperation between the state and a finite number of ideologically policed super corporations complete with price controls and state puppet unions and press. That's how fascist Italy did it. That's how national socialist Germany did it. That's how imperial Japan did it.
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@Greyparrot
"knowledgeable sources"I definitely heard that from someone in his close inner circle.
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@Sidewalker
Played the victim card, well done, we feel sorry for you.
It is not always to elicit sympathy that insults are pointed out.
More of an answer, an answer to this question:
Q: "Why don't you people believe us when we say we're doing it for your own good?"
A: "You obviously despise us. That undermines any benefit of the doubt or trust you think you earned."
An analogy:
1: Come to Jesus you disgusting faggot or you'll burn in hell like the vermin you are.
2: That's pretty insulting, I think you hate me.
3: Nah, I am only saying this for your own good. All I care about is your well-being.
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@Greyparrot
They lived on a coconut tree... under da sea...I mean right smack dab in the middle of all them families.
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@Greyparrot
Indeed if the status quo is that the police can't kill you for threatening people with a knife but they can kill you for threatening the deep state, I have no wish to return.
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I think this is why forums need to have a full ignore. As I "I don't even want to see shit that reduces my IQ".
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@Sidewalker
He's just not rich enough to grab me by the genitals.So you're saying LGBT are all whores. How bigoted.No, I'm saying "He's just not rich enough to grab me by the genitals. "
Which implies they are for sale at the right price and that he wants to buy them.
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@Sidewalker
So you're saying LGBT are all whores. How bigoted.and yet you refuse to elect the first LGBTQIAMZ?! two spirit jedi president....such homophobia...He's just not rich enough to grab me by the genitals.
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@Sidewalker
As are you. Why don't you just come out of the closet as MAGA already?so per the 22nd Amendment of the Constitution, he can't actually serve another term.Did he say he served a second term?No, he said Arnold Palmer has a large penis.Pay attention.If you want to derail towards large peni be my guest. I have seen some very big onesI'm sure you have, it's no secret that MAGA is obsessed with people's genitals.
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