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@Barney
Thanks for the vote, but I think your plan is a bit confused. If you're fine with taking out me and Luna anyway, then you should force Luna to hammer today.
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@whiteflame
I think Luna is scum. I'll post more when I get back home, about to take a test
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@Lunatic
I think you're bluffing about hammering as well. Unvote if you want to really prove it.
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And the vote on myself is entirely coolly calculated, not out of frustration or anything. I need to be hammered for the role to activate. The fact that Luna said it's the "biggest selling point" for lynching me is ludicrous to say the least.
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I've already said what needs to be said. I'm willing to be hammered if Luna does it. Otherwise, we're lynching Luna.
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Unvote and let Joebob and Moozer (the people I trust the most) vote. You can put the hammer.
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@Lunatic
I want you to give the name of your role because Pie has a specific way of choosing his roles. So yes, I am not backing down on that.
And I am willing to do a 1v1 trade, since that will win the game for town on the spot. Let's do it.
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@Lunatic
Did you forget I'm a super saint? I reflexively kill the person who hammers me.
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@Lunatic
Name of your role and justification. This doesn't give scum any extra info, yet you're refusing to give it. Curious.
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Oh and Luna, you are so going down with that fake townie righteousness >:)
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I am at L - 2 so no one else vote until Luna unvotes, to avoid accidental premature hammer.
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@Lunatic
Unvote please, I want you to be the one to hammer.
VTL Austin
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If anyone doesn't trust me, then I am entirely fine with Luna hammering me. There is no way that town Luna would ever post what he just did.
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@Lunatic
we can clutter this day phase with 1-200 pages of wifom arguments.
Oh, I see a faster method :)
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@Lunatic
I never said you were scumreading me. I said you were mentioning potential scumtells of mine, at best. When these scumtells were patently bullshit, I had a obligation to point them out.
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@Barney
Yeah, you're probably right, I just reread it. Got a bit overexcited for a moment at the idea of using mod psyche.
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@whiteflame
Alright, take care. I have some other reasons for sussing Luna that I detailed above, btw. Take a look at those when you have time.
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I just realized that Earth's role PM basically mod-confirms my role lol.
If that player dies sometime before the next night phase, they will be revealed as any other currently living player (randomly chosen at the time of death). This can only happen once in the game. You win with the Town.
Why would Pie refer to a generic death, rather than a lynch? This only makes sense if there is some other type of day death.
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@Lunatic
When you next get online, I want:
-Full description of your role
-The exact name of it
-The justification
:D
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@Vader
Hence why I said quasi-CC. Do me a favor and put a vote on Luna :)
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@Lunatic
VTL Lunatic
whiteflame just quasi-CC'd you. I want a full claim.
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Yeah, I'm not really liking this.
For starters, it's bizarre to sus me for the way Savant claimed his role. I mod using Mafiascum flavor roles. I don't have access to the wiki at school right now, but I'm pretty sure that a protective role that can't target itself is simply called Macho, or Non-personal. I've never heard of a Non-Self-Targeting modifier.
Like... if this is the best evidence he can come up with against me, it gives me vibes of a player who's going to get pinned down by POE and needs to minimize cleared town players as fast as possible.
I pressed Luna for info on claiming because there was the least chance of scum adapting their roles based on his, so the reasons were pragmatic, not behavioral. And I don't really think he gets towncred for CCing Savant, considering Savant was going down anyway.
Same story for pushing Joebob. Joebob is cleared by virtue of being town's unCC's investigative role. Again, it reeks of a player trying desperately to escape POE.
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Mmm... getting bad vibes from Luna rn. Not because I'm OMGUSing him, but because of some rather questionable leaps in logic.
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@Moozer325
Not exactly imo, Savant was already going down and the CC was just the deathblow. Plus, I put him at the top because he already heavily softclaimed.
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@Lunatic
@Barney
@whiteflame
Alright, I've been thinking it over for a bit, and I would prefer claims in this order:
1. Lunatic (to lock him into a claim earlier. He's already breadcrumbed as a protective role, so minimal risk of scum adapting their fakeclaims based on his).
2. Barney (behavioral reasons)
3. whiteflame (least sus, plus pushed on Savant early in D1)
Thoughts?
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Alright, assuming no CC, that should clear two players. Lawyer seems unlikely in view of GF, and I doubt Joebob would be an optimal redirect target.
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Seems likely. Have some other thoughts on reads, but I'll wait until Joebob gets here.
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Also, there is an aspect of my role that I was not entirely honest about. I will choose whether to reveal it after some more claims, as I think I'm solidly the most townread player today for managing to catch out Savant on D1.
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@Barney
I would prefer that you claim today - I don't really sus you in particular so I won't vote for now, but you didn't do anything to stand out in DP1.
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@Lunatic
I'm honestly confused by the Earth kill as well. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it could be sign of a less experienced or more busy player - putting Joebob, Moozer, and Vader in the crosshairs for today.
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Also good to note that Pie didn't exactly make the justifications completely sensible. IDK what Savant's role link is really.
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Shamelessly stolen from Barney (feel free to BLT me for this)
Dashboard Role Char DP1
1. Barney ??? Shikhandi
2. Lunatic weak protective ???
4. Whiteflame ??? ???
5. Moozer Commuter Yudhishthira
6. JoeBob ??? ???
8. Earth Deceiver Bhima
9. Savant GF/Ninja Karna
Savant's role guarantees we have a Cop and a Tracker, or a JOAT with those abilities, in the game. With only a few people unclaimed, I think today is the day to finish claiming.
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@Lunatic
Seems about right. I would prefer Earth, followed by perhaps Vader and Joebob in that order.
And yeah, I can understand why you CC'd, even it's it not entirely preferable. I've done less justifiable things as town before.
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@Lunatic
I kinda wish you hadn't CC'd. Savant was going down anyway and this gives scum some unnecessary info. Whatever, gj town (D1 scum lynch possible nowai??)
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@Moozer325
Eh... I don't like that lack of commitment to reads that much. At this point, you should be scumreading either me or Savant, not hedging your bets. At the same time, you're pretty new to this, and I townread you based on your interactions with Savant. Suffice to say, I'm definitely not going to be next day's lynch regardless of how Savant flips.
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@whiteflame
Austin is a null for me, but I could see a case to be made against him. I'll go after him if you'll back me up, since it's my last chance to possibly lynch a scum.
Oh yeah, this post in particular is atrocious.
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Meh, a lot of obvious scumtells dropped by Savant, but they can be pretty simply summarized as "flailing." Jumping around, no consistency in reads, attempting to get a wagon on anyone and everyone, even somehow trying to hammer me (lol).
I think he spewed Moozer as town with that interaction though. We'll see.
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And I already said "I will take their word for it that he isn't BSing." The explanation is right there, and it's extremely obvious what I mean.
That was clearly referring to the best strategy for town, not the themesplit.
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@Savant
How would scum know the theme split with absolute confidence??
Because they know what their actual characters are, of course. Absolute confidence is perhaps hyperbole, but that's certainly what it sounds like.
I thought we were all in agreement on that probably being the theme split. No one has proposed an alternative or contested it.
Mmm... sounds like a retroactive cover-up to me.
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Also if Savant flips scum (which is very likely), Luna is vaguely implicated by this btw.
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@Savant
Last chance. Want to explain how you know that Lunatic figured out the themesplit?
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@Earth
@Barney
@Vader
@whiteflame
@JoeBob
Lunatic figured out the theme split - SAVANT
Savant just scumslipped hard. Notice how he didn't say "likely" or "possible" theme split, but said that Lunatic "figured [it] out" with absolute confidence. How would he know this if he didn't know the actual scum characters?
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@Savant
Alright. Can you give some more reasoning? Moozer and I have posted enough that you should consider us leaning one way or another. What do you think of Vader's claim and behavior? Why do you townread the people you do?
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Also off-topic, but we should totally make BLT the equivalent of FOSing someone, only more deliciously.
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@Savant
Please give your reads, since your lynch is currently on the table.
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It's also suspiciously specific, too specific for scum to be fakeclaiming imo.
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