AustinL0926

I guess that’s true, though notably you’d have to survive out to that point to achieve either of those goals and your decision not to claim might have just hampered that. Honestly, you could’ve gotten away with the character claim alone or just claimed normal Bleeder to invite the quick hammer. Its oddly anti-town to specify the flavor.

I’m not scum, Korea is likely not scum. So Savant is the only person who could be scum. You forget that my wagon had 4 people in a span of like 10 minutes. Your wagon is nothing. Furthermore, your statement here makes no sense. You said you don’t claim if scum is pressuring you, but then refer to Barney as town, who you scumread. Yet you state that they have to convince you and then you’re going to claim? Why the double standard between yourself and me?

There’s only 3 people including me. The other two were on my wagon. Your wagon is not that big either. You found data to support your claim but disregarded other, contradictory data, which I pointed out. That’s by definition cherry picking. You did the same thing with Supa last game. As for Barney, now you scumread him for the reason I was pushing him in the first place, yet you still scumread me? That makes zero sense.

His character is a main character. So you have to think he’s faking that too. It looks like everyone is faking what they’re saying according to you.

Well let’s see. Barney is more aggressive then when he is scum, makes me think he is town. Whiteflame is playing the same way he did last game, when he was town. Those two are the only others than haven’t full claimed. Which leaves you.

Right now Barney and Austin are both on the chopping block. We know zero about their roles, and their behavior has been generally suspect, for whatever that's worth. Now Barney comes up with a convenient excuse to get everyone to unvote when Austin has 3 votes against him. Seems like they could both be scum but trying not to seem like they're defending each other.

I said behavioral reads are useless (or close to useless) if scum do what they would do as town. I buy that catching people in a lie is the point of mafia, but let's be honest and admit that special roles change the whole dynamic. Concrete evidence will always be a better way of catching liars than vibes alone. In Town of Salem, most lynching is done based on actual evidence since people have special abilities and the game is text-based, making it hard to catch liars (humans are bad lie detectors anyway). Forum mafia is closer to TOS than it is to traditional mafia. I go off behavioral reads when there's nothing else, but it will almost always be less effective than actual evidence.

It's also odd you would accuse me since I followed you into voting Pie given how certain you were, until he claimed the main character with no counterclaims.

Scum cannot afford to sacrifice for their own in 7v2, so if you are town and our certain that Pie is scum, you would have a great reason to believe that I am town. Even if I rely 100% on behavioral reads, your actions don't make sense.

Given that you've accused everyone except Barney, and he's avoided voting for you, I highly suspect the two of you.

So BK is a scum doctor? Possible though unlikely with his character claim not being CCed.

Also your entire premise of going after me was manufactured. I clearly pointed that out. I character claimed and role claimed with hesitation because of your manufacturing. You even cherry picked data from Lunatic’s games to support your cause, which I pointed out. You also then say you want Barney’s claim after saying that you townread him for not reading the OP. 

So you want to lynch a claimed Doctor? Please explain

Who’s hesitating to claim now?

I find it weird that the literal namesake of the series doesn't even get assigned an active role (Commuter is basically a combination of two passive roles, Bulletproof and Ascetic). It's also an easy claim to explain why you're not getting NKed, as well as explaining any failed investigations and whatnot. This was the exact reason why I fakeclaimed Ascetic in the last game.

Commuter can be activatable regardless of which of the three options I am. It’s basically a doctor that can’t be targeted when commuting. -[PIE]

Maybe it's because I've never played this version before, but I'm not sure how reliable behavioral reads are. Scum could just do whatever they would do if they were town, and suddenly behavioral reads are useless. Getting some amount of information is the only way to catch them in a lie. Maybe we're giving scum information, but we're getting information too. Town needs information to kill scum, scum doesn't need information to kill town. Plus scum already knows the theme and has some idea about how fake claims correlate to characters, so someone giving their role is more useful to us than to them.

You’re a better player than this.

What is weird about it, and why do you not buy it? What do you want to do now? Answering my questions would be a start

What do you want to do now?

Speaking of which, I noticed a pattern. It looks like role justifications for the most part are based on the powers the hero has. With GP’s claim, my role and character, and Pies role and character, I think we can assume that the role justification are based on the abilities. Is this true for everyone?

Without char claiming or doing that, can you see if this is true with your characters?

Well I guess we will wait to see Austin's defense

"Mafia were not directly given fake claims! However I did give them a very strong hint to a role claim, and it is an open set up, so they will have a list of characters to choose from that may exist in this game."