AustinL0926

Okay, something new is bothering me. Lunatic is online, but he's been mainly just fluff posting. If Luna is scum, he might be trying to slide under the radar but just showing enough activity so that he doesn't get lumped in with the non-posters. In a normal game, Luna's behavior would be seen as suspicious. In this one, we might be more worried about people who aren't posting at all.

But if Luna has enough time to post, why has he contributed barely anything? Especially when posters need to carry this game a lot because of how many people aren't active? Someone who knows Luna's meta might be able to say if this is normal for him.

VTL Lunatic

Not related to the game but I think Austin has a done a great job and behavior analyzing. I know it's been a while since I played but it seems like he's grown a lot as a player. I was going to wait to the endgame to say something but I've noticed from the last few games he has his improved a lot...

Not affiliation indicative but I think it's worth pointing out

It's basically WIFOM. The more we suspect the strategy is bad and he wouldn't use it, the more useful of a strategy it becomes, etc. It's not a great reason for a sus, but it's the only one we have, and the WIFOM logic (however weak) doesn't apply as much to the new players.

Yeah, WyIted has been in games before, he's less likely to forget about it. If anyone is using their absence as a "strategy" hoping we'll ignore them, it's WyIted. The others might have just forgotten, and if they are scum, they'll probably fail their night actions anyway and we don't need to worry.

Ok, I buy this. I don't think Austin would lie about eating lunch just to throw off suspicion.

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Austin's first post comes off a bit scummy to me. Maybe it's just because of how many times I've played with him specifically. As town he tends to start with posts that move the game forward, whereas when he's scum he's more likely to make posts that try to avoid any suspicion. i.e. "just checking in" or "Pie SOP claiming makes sense" which contributes very little.

VTL Austin

The way Earth interacted with Vader is NEVER scum-scum, trust me on this

Wait till Luna confirms the vote didn’t count.

Public apology my friend. I’m sorry

As I said, I'd prefer the Savant lynch right now. He's at L-1 from what I can see, though, given the Hammerer role. So I'm not placing my vote yet. I'd also be willing to lynch Pie, mainly to ascertain the truth of his information. I understand that you see him as town as do many others, though I'm still not so sure.

Don't know why you'd post a vote on yourself since it's automatically placed on the lynch. I get the gesture, but it's kind of pointless.

Granted, I know I fall into the category of choosing for role confirmation, but all my roles were confirmation roles and I chose the one I think would be the less damaging to town while also providing the most utility

I am also still irked by the way he chose a role that would likely benefit himself more than it would benefit the town as a whole. His behavior since then makes me lean more into that logic. 

I said we had two good lynch targets, lynching either of you would give information and be better than random chance. I said "Of course Pie could be wrong and erroneously confident and we have two townies going against each other, but Pie's intuition has been good before." But I did not think it was likely a town v town fight. Why would I be accounting for it being some weird gambit from you? Face it, even if it was a reaction test, that's not a usual town v town conflict. Hence why I did not recognize it as one.

I don't think this is that inexplicable. Obviously if you're scum, you don't want to be lynched, especially not on DP1, and townreading someone who is pushing hard for your lynch is generally a towny thing to do. If you get lynched as town DP1, oh well, it's not that bad, unless you're a good investigative/protective role, which you're not. The town at least gets some information they can use to help them make a more informed decision next time. Except in this game, it's even less bad for the town. In fact, it's a positive, because you become a confirmed townie and lose your negative utility status thanks to GP's role.

So in other words, I was right to lean toward trusting him over you? I'm being scum read for not trusting the accusation you admit you completely made up?

Also, this is a ton of backtracking from you. Pie accused you first. That's not the time to start lying. Whenever you've been scum before, you usually ended up flipping on something and saying it was all part of a master plan. One time was when you claimed you were miller and had been hiding it for some reason. There was a game a long time go when whiteflame was accusing you and you changed your role claim in an attempt to get him off your back. You've done similar gambits as town like the supersaint, but those are usually confirmable.