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@whiteflame
I honestly can’t fathom what calculus would make holding back on the claim the better choice.
You really can't? I have a dozen or so notifications notifications from Pie with his BS bullying tactic. When someone else (Lunatic) without being a bastard simply asked, I gave information.
It's a policy of not rewarding Pie's lameness.
Adding to it, Pie gaslighting claiming he's already done a partial claim... But also not saying when and where... I mean either of us could have missed it, and he could have missed the list not including it... But all three seems unlikely if he's actually provided information.
Further, Pie seems certain as to what my role is from my character claim, which makes the point of pressuring me more moot.
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Anyways I'm a weak investigator roleblocker hybrid.
Each night I select two players, the first of which I get a notification if they target another player (I don't know which player). The second gets roleblocked if the first moved.
NP1 watched whiteflame, who did not move, so my roleblock did not trigger.
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@ILikePie5
You obsessing over one person for information, then when information is given demanding more and more… You’re damned obvious in trying to get a mislynch. Of course, you’re welcome to have your scum buddy out themselves by laying down the hammer.
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@ILikePie5
Well if you’re town and you’re not going to full claim, you’re by definition anti-town
One of the dumbest things I've ever seen written in a mafia game.
Did you full claim in your first post? Nope, therefore "anti-town."
Also, you are not the entire town. If in doubt, try VTLing me again as you keep threatening to do, your vote won't suddenly be worth more. And again, only scum would hammer me, which would out themselves.
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And to be clear, I gave my partial claim at Lunatic's request, not yours. Your fake pressure means very little.
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@ILikePie5
You've given not even a soft claim, and now you're pretending you have an extra vote.
Undue pressure may work on brand new players, but I am not one.
If anyone wishes to hammer a fellow townie while there's nearly 2 days remaining in the day phase, by all means, out yourself as scum. That does town more good than what I can.
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@ILikePie5
I've given you my character claim, as requested, and you have not removed your vote. So I'm now pretty sure you're scum seeking mislynches.
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@Lunatic
I’m the ELO rating system.
That was rather obvious. I can't imagine what powers it has, and I will not inquire.
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@ILikePie5
So far, we've seen tactics (using Stockfish), individual moves (Castling), and pieces (Pawn). Algebraic Notation is more just a descriptor that covers all these things to some degree.I wouldn’t consider those tactics in a chess context. Pawns are not tactics.
You're not even wrong. Pawns are indeed pieces.
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2. Pie ??? ???
3. whiteflame ??? "tactic" Copped Earth Inno
6. Lunatic ??? "a system created for chess" Something
7. Vader ??? ???
8. Barney ??? "tactic"
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@Moozer325
Given that there are three people for whom less is known, why are you sheeping Pie by VTLing me?
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@Earth
Thinking about it some more, I feel like WF hasn't really proven himself to be town. I kinda regret claiming my character and not giving WF the chance to out his innocent on me first, but it's something.
I'm like 95% certain that whiteflame is town.
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@Lunatic
Supa/Vader is an interesting query. He basically taught me how to play this game, and he used to be kinda obvious when scum, but still won in spite of that. He'd basically confuse the issue with a major gambit, then NK whomever was saying he was scum, and then everyone would forget. Now days, I'd say look for patterns he forms a little too early.
This game, he claims to have some useful power... If it's proven he doesn't, then we lynch, but that isn't today..
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@Lunatic
What is MISO? I am guessing MYLO but what is the acronym? Also why do you keep listing moozer as a bodyguard protector? He says protect, not sacrifice himself for, so wouldn't that function more as 1x universal doctor? and the second part of his role as an enabler seing as he prevents a rook from essentially being roleblocked?
I misremembered the short phrase, it should have been MILO; got an S where there should be an L... Granted, these short forms are annoying for not being acronyms.
Whiteflame did most of the dashboard building so far this game, including adding Moozer's role. It did occur to me that it doesn't line up quite right, but I can't think of what the rook part of the role would equate to in a normal game, so I've left it as is. At a glance, we remember that he's some type of protector, and we have a link to his original claim if we need to drill down later in the game for actions which do not match claims.
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@ILikePie5
For the sake of progressing things... I'm a tactic.At this point you need to full claim
If that's your idea of a joke, you need to try harder. There are four people who have less outed information, yourself included. By any standard, you're being a dullard.
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For the sake of progressing things... I'm a tactic.
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Killed/Lynched
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@whiteflame
Maybe I'm misreading this... Austin is the host, so what are you trying to say?I received a PM from the mod (Austin) saying that I had access to the "chess engine" as a result of something that happened. It was not stated who I received it from, but with Earth's claim, I think we can assume it came from him. What's unclear?
I didn't notice Earth mentioned in the previous post. So it read as if you were talking about town confirming the host.
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@whiteflame
During the NP, I received a message from Austin saying that I was granted access to a "chess engine" at the expense of my night action, which functioned as a 1X Cop. Based on the claim he just gave of Stockfish (which is a chess engine), I can confirm that he targeted me. Unfortunately, I made the decision to target him (he obviously copped innocent), so he's basically double confirmed at this point.
Maybe I'm misreading this... Austin is the host, so what are you trying to say?
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@ILikePie5
I would like claims from Barney and Earth
And I'd like a pastrami sandwich. We don't always get what we want.
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@JoeBob
Rereading, you gave in to Pie for a full claim way too easily.
Pie had not even given a soft claim, so how push was without teeth... Well, at least until you outed that you've been reduced to more or less vanilla.
This isn't a winning argument, but the type of argument you should be making is for VNTL. Such as...
9 players, assume 2 scum.DP1: 7/2DP2: 5/2DP3: 3/2 MISOIf skipping a lynchDP1: 7/2DP2: 6/2DP3: 4/2 MISOIf skipping 2DP1: 7/2DP2: 6/2DP3: 5/2 <- Lynch now for 2 days intel.DP4: 3/2 MISO
Again, people are very opposed to no lynch, so it wouldn't work. But it'd at least be putting another option in front of us.
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Forgot to say it, not trusting Moozer either; mainly just because new players have a higher likelihood of being scum. That said, the complexity of that claim makes it more believable to me.
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Caught up (missed a few posts in the skimming).
I thought Savant was scum, with the hesitation of claiming miller being a needless risky gamble... Then I checked my role PM to see if I too was scum too before pushing... And nope, definitely on the same team as "town," no scum here 🤣
In seriousness, I'm town, and saw that my role is odd compared to normal games. Which made me re-read his claim, for which I had previously missed the "modifier" part. So yeah, I'll believe there's a flavor miller instead of vanilla miller.
JoeBob's claim... doesn't seem like something he'd make up on his own... But it also seems so useless. Our investigator only giving us intel after he dies... Also if he's town we have to purposefully mis-lynch him before we hit MISO (not sure which day phase that is likely to be, 3?). It's possible, but him outing himself makes him very low utility.
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Work was crazy this week. But for the next few days I’m just catsitting for my sister. So my activity level should shoot up to normal levels (I just won’t spam to try to counter the earlier problem).
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@JoeBob
Pie did tag me when voting me, in post #216, which means he’s not being a bastard about it. And my absence does make it fair.
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I’ll be getting caught up on reading and posting shortly. Sorry for the tardiness.
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@Savant
Apologies if you’ve answered this already, but why is the lawn the miller?
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@ILikePie5
Can yall say something
Per your request: something! 🙃
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@Lunatic
Ah, found the post in question!
Needs more likes...
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@Vader
Props to you for for the fake claim. It was daring, and even when not working out it made the game more entertaining. And you even managed to get some of town to over analyze and realize that I was the scum.
With the power of hindsight, Allan The Alien is literally a mind reading space cop. Also Allan sucking at his job, could get people betting on if you're an insane cop or not, meaning the player you town confirmed might actually be the scum.
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@Lunatic
The upvote thing also felt pretty dirty
Context?
I upvote stuff a lot, and I have not heard of any problems with it. Granted, I include upvotes to posts which give a good analysis against me. Anything worth stopping at during a speed-read really.
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@ILikePie5
The next night I totally would have visited myself in the graveyard ;)
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
Trying to lynch Poe instead of Vader, felt like a gambit. And gambits are most often scum.
While pretty sure the remaining scum was Pie, I nearly tracked whiteflame.
The reasoning was that if I were to be role blocked, that result would be identical to an actual commuter.
Whereas just confirming whiteflame did not move, would by elimination condemn Pie.
Ultimately I decided that the odds of good information favored Pie. For one thing, if a RB was available it’d probably target the Doctor, so that I could then be a NK target; which made the fears less meaningful.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
You are welcome to imagine whatever you want. You aren't the first to write streamy fan-fiction about me, and you won't be the last.
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The FSM opposes Pascal's Wager, and according to Pascal's Wager there's infinite gain for rejecting it in the name of His noodly appendage.
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Well fuck face,Fuck face is what your wife's name would be if you could keep it up and reach the back of her eager greedy throat. No need to project it onto me.
Nice riposte!
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A little over due maintenance.
We should be at 4 v 1 tomorrow.
Dashboard Role Character. NP1
Joebob (town) Innocent Child Kid Omni-Man * / visited by Best.Korea
Greyparrot Probe (1/5) Dupli-Kate. Savant*, whiteflame*, JoeBob*, Barney, Best*.
Whiteflame Vanilla Amber. * / visited by Vader?
savant. Easily confirmable. * / Killed
Vader (skum) Cop. Damien Darkblood whiteflame?
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Dashboard Role Character. NP1
Joebob (town) Innocent Child Kid Omni-Man * /
Greyparrot Probe (1/5) Dupli-Kate. Savant*, whiteflame*, JoeBob*, Barney, Best*.
Whiteflame Vanilla Amber. * / visited by unknown
savant. Easily confirmable. * / Killed
Barney. JOAT investigator Damien Darkblood * / BK / no visitors
Vader. Cop. Damien Darkblood ???
* denotes probed, and fatal probing
As of page 8, the votes should something like;
iLikePie5- 1/5- Austin,
Vader- 5/5- Barney, iLikePie5, wf, BK, GP
Barney- 1/5- Vader
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@ILikePie5
I find the hyper focus on you wasteful.
You’re likely scum, but with a less than 50/50 chance.
If you’re town and had the hyper focus not occurred, you’d be a potential NK target.
Vader and I each have a 50/50 chance. Lynch one of us, and if that fails lynch the other.
Of course, Lynching me has the cost of killing GP, as Austin figured out. So it ought to be Vader first, if that fails no one visit me (so as to spare GP if he’s role blocked, and keep the game going).
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@Vader
I would also like to point out that Barney lied about his role justification. He claimed that his role was based on “the actions” of the character but his role is based on the powers of the character
Investigating people is a job, not a super power.
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@AustinL0926
[Pie] and Barney asked about GP's role mechanics in scumchat, confirmed he can't retrieve his probes if roleblocked. You then came up with the plan to CC someone ASAP to force a lynch, knowing you would get to 2-2 after a mislynch, my lynch, an NK, and GP's death. Good one.
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@Greyparrot
Counter claim motherfucker. I’m Damien Darkblood, JOAT investigator.
I couldn’t remember which show or movie it was, but I did have that strong man of colors voice in my head when I wrote that.
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Scum might not have known Savants role, but janitored the body to create choas.
WF has an unidentified visit from someone, so that might have been a role cop.
There’s lots of other possibilities, but we know we don’t have a cop, which makes us a lot less powerful. So scum is less likely to have any one power which does multiple things.
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Dashboard Role Character. NP1
Joebob (town) Innocent Child Kid Omni-Man * /
Greyparrot Probe (1/5) Dupli-Kate. Savant*, whiteflame*, JoeBob*, Barney, Best*.
Whiteflame Vanilla Amber. * / visited by unknown
savant. Easily confirmable. * / Killed
Barney. JOAT investigator Damien Darkblood * / BK / no visitors
Vader. Cop. Damien Darkblood ???
* denotes probed, and fatal probing
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@Vader
You would likely know as well, since you are in the same scum groupchat >XD
Dude, this is our best gambit yet! Now we watch as town fails to pick either of us for at least one day… lol
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@Greyparrot
I agree that pie is most likely the remaining scum. I was going to vote for him before Vader slipped (well, miscalculated).
Best.Korea could be as well. My role RM mentions the threat of janitors; so them being on the top of his mind is a little sus.
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@Vader
You’re supposed to ask that in scum chat. The host will not answer questions in the threads.
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@whiteflame
Watched Best. I figured he might be scum and pretend to have doctored someone but got role blocked. If actually town, then a prime target for scum. Either way, visits would be informative.
Only myself and GP visited him.
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